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A few weeks ago I got a copy of a tape labelled "March 16, 1974 AS". Pretty soon I ound that this tape is wrongy dated. It must stem from the March 1974 but I found no match with any released show of that tour be it cdr, import or SB or whatever. The key should be the FS of Trying To get To You and before Funny How Time Slips Away Elvis says ...
”All kidding aside, of all the places we’ve been to………this second one was one of the best audiences we’ve ever played"..
Also it must be an ES cause at the beginng of intros Elvis says.."the ladies that opened our show tonight"..
Perhaps anybody else has the tape and the correct date..? I give two silver discs as a reward for the right date.
Here is track listing..
2001 Theme/Vamp ~ SEE SEE RIDER / Elvis starts with ‘wells’ ~ I GOT A WOMAN / AMEN / AMEN / I GOT A WOMAN ~ LOVE ME ~ TRYIN' TO GET TO YOU-two starts ~ ALL SHOOK UP ~ STEAMROLLER BLUES ~ TEDDY BEAR / DON'T BE CRUEL ~ LOVE ME TENDER ~(Johnny B.Goode, Hound Dog missing)- FEVER ~ POLK SALAD ANNIE ~ WHY ME LORD-repeat ~ SUSPICIOUS MINDS ~ Elvis introduces the Sweet Inspirations, J.D. Sumner & the Stamps Quartet, Kathy Westmoreland, James Burton, John Wilkinson, Ronnie Tutt, Duke Bardwell, Glen (Campbell) D. Hardin, Charlie Hodge, Voice, Per-Erik ‘Pete’ Hallin, Joe Guercio & his Orchestra ~ I CAN'T STOP LOVING YOU ~ HELP ME ~ AN AMERICAN TRILOGY ~ LET ME BE THERE-repeat ~ FUNNY HOW TIME SLIPS AWAY ~ CAN'T HELP FALLING IN LOVE / Vamp


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I suspect it to be the Memphis Sunday 17 March 1974 Afternoon show 2:30 pm Mid South coliseum

Check Elvis' announcement after I got a woman/Amen.
He says: is it afternoon or evening?

During Fever Elvis comments "it's too early".
Ciscoking wrote:A few weeks ago I got a copy of a tape labelled "March 16, 1974 AS". Pretty soon I ound that this tape is wrongy dated. It must stem from the March 1974 but I found no match with any released show of that tour be it cdr, import or SB or whatever. The key should be the FS of Trying To get To You and before Funny How Time Slips Away Elvis says ...
”All kidding aside, of all the places we’ve been to………this second one was one of the best audiences we’ve ever played"..
Also it must be an ES cause at the beginng of intros Elvis says.."the ladies that opened our show tonight"..
Perhaps anybody else has the tape and the correct date..? I give two silver discs as a reward for the right date.
Here is track listing..
2001 Theme/Vamp ~ SEE SEE RIDER / Elvis starts with ‘wells’ ~ I GOT A WOMAN / AMEN / AMEN / I GOT A WOMAN ~ LOVE ME ~ TRYIN' TO GET TO YOU-two starts ~ ALL SHOOK UP ~ STEAMROLLER BLUES ~ TEDDY BEAR / DON'T BE CRUEL ~ LOVE ME TENDER ~(Johnny B.Goode, Hound Dog missing)- FEVER ~ POLK SALAD ANNIE ~ WHY ME LORD-repeat ~ SUSPICIOUS MINDS ~ Elvis introduces the Sweet Inspirations, J.D. Sumner & the Stamps Quartet, Kathy Westmoreland, James Burton, John Wilkinson, Ronnie Tutt, Duke Bardwell, Glen (Campbell) D. Hardin, Charlie Hodge, Voice, Per-Erik ‘Pete’ Hallin, Joe Guercio & his Orchestra ~ I CAN'T STOP LOVING YOU ~ HELP ME ~ AN AMERICAN TRILOGY ~ LET ME BE THERE-repeat ~ FUNNY HOW TIME SLIPS AWAY ~ CAN'T HELP FALLING IN LOVE / Vamp


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Yes, it must be the AS from March 17. The false start of "Trying To Get To You" is there.
The CD "The Alternative Memphis" features an audience recording of the show - including "Hound Dog" and "Johnny B.".



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Friends..that would be too easy...it's not....unfortunately.....before Trying To Get To You Elvis jokes about ”sitting down on a stool” ....


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The sample of Trying To Get To You with the fs

Trying To Get To You


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I was thinking about 17 march 1974 afternoon show too due to the f.s. of Trying to get to you; but it is not.
You said Johnny B. Goode / Hound dog is missing but is the whole concert compiled from one or more tapes? In the past they pasted two or more concerts together and a new one was created.

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Cisco that show is from March 10 1974 at Roanoke VA. The Roanoke Civic Center show at 8:30pm
I have the CD somewhere, and it's a silver disc got it around 20 years or so ago.

(If you look closly that 6 that is marked as the 16th is most likely a zero for the 10th)
Now the question is what 2 discs do i get? :wink:



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promiseland wrote:Cisco that show is from March 10 1974 at Roanoke VA. The Roanoke Civic Center show at 8:30pm
I have the CD somewhere, and it's a silver disc got it around 20 years or so ago.

(If you look closly that 6 that is marked as the 16th is most likely a zero for the 10th)
Now the question is what 2 discs do i get? :wink:
Nope. Try again.. :wink:


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Could it be March 9th 1974 ES Charlotte, This guess is a shot in the dark.



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Backup Cisco you know I was right... :?



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Elvis2000 wrote:Could it be March 9th 1974 ES Charlotte, This guess is a shot in the dark.
This a guess by me, too. ...or Monroe, March 7, 1974 ES..due to this stage dialogue before Funny How Time...

”All kidding aside, of all the places we’ve been to………this second one was one of the best audiences we’ve ever played"..

This means to me that he already played to this audience at this place ..either a few days earlier or earlier the same day..he played Monroe 3 times...March 4, 7 and 8..Charlotte he played March 9 AS and ES.

Perhaps our English native speaking members can say more about this statment by Elvis.


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Ciscoking wrote:
Elvis2000 wrote:Could it be March 9th 1974 ES Charlotte, This guess is a shot in the dark.
This a guess by me, too. ...or Monroe, March 7, 1974 ES..due to this stage dialogue before Funny How Time...

”All kidding aside, of all the places we’ve been to………this second one was one of the best audiences we’ve ever played"..

This means to me that he already played to this audience at this place ..either a few days earlier or earlier the same day..he played Monroe 3 times...March 4, 7 and 8..Charlotte he played March 9 AS and ES.

Perhaps our English native speaking members can say more about this statment by Elvis.
I was going to mention Monroe



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With the help of fellow collectors and experts I was able to rule out all other shows I guess.
This second place comment indicates that Elvis already was there recently. It must either be
the second time Monroe or the ES in Charlotte


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What dates have you come to suspect -so- I can go through to help?



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Ciscoking wrote:With the help of fellow collectors and experts I was able to rule out all other shows I guess.
This second place comment indicates that Elvis already was there recently. It must either be
the second time Monroe or the ES in Charlotte
yes i absolutely agree- must be one of those 2 dates :D


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YDKM wrote:
Ciscoking wrote:With the help of fellow collectors and experts I was able to rule out all other shows I guess.
This second place comment indicates that Elvis already was there recently. It must either be
the second time Monroe or the ES in Charlotte
yes i absolutely agree- must be one of those 2 dates :D
How do you conclude this..?


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Mr. Songman wrote:What dates have you come to suspect -so- I can go through to help?
Monroe, March 7, 1974 ES
Charlotte, March 9, 1974 ES


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i concluded that from looking at ALL track-listings available for that March tour.

March 7 - 8:30pm - Monroe, LA. / Monroe Civic Center
Also Sprach Zarathustra - See See Rider - I Got A Woman/Amen - Love Me - Trying To Get To You - All Shook Up - Steamroller Blues - Teddy Bear/Don't Be Cruel - Love Me Tender - Johnny B. Goode - Hound Dog - Fever - Polk Salad Annie - Why Me Lord - Suspicious Minds - Introductions - I Can't Stop Loving You - Help Me - American Trilogy - Let Me Be There - Funny How Times Slip Away - Can't Help Falling In Love - Closing Vamp
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March 9 - 8:30pm - Charlotte, NC. / Charlotte Coliseum
Also Sprach Zarathustra - See See Rider - I Got A Woman/Amen - Love Me - Trying To Get To You - All Shook Up - Steamroller Blues - Teddy Bear/Don't Be Cruel - Love Me Tender - Johnny B. Goode - Hound Dog - Fever - Polk Salad Annie - Why Me Lord - Suspicious Minds - I Can't Stop Loving You - Help Me - American Trilogy - Let Me Be There - Funny How Time Slips Away - Can't Help Falling In Love - Closing Vamp
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Where do you have the track listings from these 2 shows from, my friend ?


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Without a doubt - this show IS: 1974 03 07 ES CDR Monroe



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Mr. Songman wrote:Without a doubt - this show IS: 1974 03 07 ES CDR Monroe
Am I good..?... :wink:


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Ciscoking wrote:
Mr. Songman wrote:Without a doubt - this show IS: 1974 03 07 ES CDR Monroe
Am I good..?... :wink:

I have to have audio to go by - I'm definitely no good at guessing :)



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Mr. Songman wrote:
Ciscoking wrote:
Mr. Songman wrote:Without a doubt - this show IS: 1974 03 07 ES CDR Monroe
Am I good..?... :wink:

I have to have audio to go by - I'm definitely no good at guessing :)
Anyone know more about the Monroe, March 7, 1974 AS?

After all, if someone lists out a "Monroe, March 7, 1974 ES," there must also be one from the afternoon.


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drjohncarpenter wrote:
Mr. Songman wrote:
Ciscoking wrote:
Mr. Songman wrote:Without a doubt - this show IS: 1974 03 07 ES CDR Monroe
Am I good..?... :wink:

I have to have audio to go by - I'm definitely no good at guessing :)
Anyone know more about the Monroe, March 7, 1974 AS?

After all, if someone lists out a "Monroe, March 7, 1974 ES," there must also be one from the afternoon.

I can only find information on an ES for the 7th, and a show for the 8th

Elvis Thrills Capacity Crowd
Monroe Morning World : March 9, 1974

Elvis, the King of Rock and Roll, brought back memories of the 50's entwined with the sound of today. These were the things people came to see and hear as they flocked to Monroe's civic Center March 4th, 7th and 8th to view the first live Elvis Presley concerts ever to be held in the city. My every standard of comparison they were not disappointed in their King. People from 1 to 80 arrived in throngs to see and hear the idol of millions perform live, in concert to the sold-out houses for all three nights.

The biggest attraction ever to appear in Monroe, the audiences began arriving early for the Elvis concert carrying with them the electricity of excitement and anticipation. By 7 p.m. the parking areas were beginning to fill and by 8pm it was virtually impossible to find an empty space on the center grounds.

Warming up the already receptive audience for Elvis' appearance was Jackie Kahane, a fine comedian who managed to hold his own and loosen up the atmosphere for the appointed moment of Elvis' appearance. Extricating ample laughter from the audience seemed to be his specialty, gingerly putting everyone at ease while waiting for the King of Rock N Roll to appear. Mr. Kahane was followed by 'The Sweet Inspirations' three very talented singers who provided their own good show. They also sing back up harmony with Elvis.

After a brief intermission, the house lights were dimmed. The strains of '2001, A Space Odessey' accompanied by the stirring beats of Ronnie Tutt's drum had the audience almost in a frenzy of anticipation and then Elvis appeared to the almost defining shrieks, cheers and yells.

The atmosphere was charged. Flash cubes popped until the arena looked like one giant strobe.

He was resplendent in a white bejeweled jumpsuit with diamonds flashing on both hands. Elvis masterfully sent the audience wild with excitement, then as if to accent the already frenzied atmosphere, reached for his black guitar and belted out 'See. See. Rider', with a style that was completely his own.

Living up to the image of 'playing strictly to the audience' Elvis disappointed no one and at times made fans feel as if he were singing to each one of them as individuals. Enthusiastic women yelled and screamed their total approval and men were just as eager to admit that no other performer could please an audience and capture it as much as Elvis did. 'If you have ever seen him perform', said one avid fan, 'you can't forget ... if you haven't seen him then you don't know what you have missed'. Included in his repertoire of 'oldies but goodies' were 'I Got A Woman', the now immortalized 'Hound Dog', 'Love Me Tender' and 'Johnnie B Goode', just to name a few. As like all his shows, there was also a religious selection, 'Help Me' that was performed as tastefully as any religious song was ever performed. Holding the entire audience spellbound for the duration of an entire musical selection, Elvis literally brought the audience to its feet with his most moving rendition of 'An American Trilogy', a selection consisting of 'Battle Hymn of the Republic', 'Dixie' and 'All My Trials' sung with such meaning and conviction that you could feel his pride for the south and it's ancient heritage.

Of course no show would be complete without the band and under the close supervision of conductor Joe Guercio, the Las Vegas brass group consisting of eleven members, accented every note Elvis sung. Also backing up Elvis in vocals was 'Voice', a new group of three very talented singers showing extreme professionalism for being so new to the world of entertainment.

The most noticeable members of the entertainers entourage were his rhythm section musicians, among whom are two native Louisianians, James Burton of Shreveport is lead guitar and band director, with Duke Bardwell of Baton Rouge on bass, John Wilkinson is on rhythm guitar and Ronnie Tutt on drums. The musician who doubles as acoustical guitarist and also provided fantastic harmony with Elvis was Charlie Hodge.

Rounding out the group was Glen D. Hardin on piano.

Not only was the concert fantastic in audience appeal but it was also absent of the usually 'I can't see' comments so often accompanying the entourage of a group. Due to the expertise knowledge of the sound man in handling controls, only one brief bit of 'feedback' was heard by the audience and the elevated sound equipment made it possible for everyone to see what they paid for.

Always included in the hours entertainment is J. D. Sumner ad the Stamps Quartet who will be long remembered for the ir assistance in the rendition of 'Why Me Lord' by Elvis.

Near the end of the show Elvis asked for the house lights to be turned on so he could see the audience 'You are beautiful audience' he said 'and I would like to sing this next song for you' ... 'I Can't Stop Loving You'.

He ended the show with 'Can't Help Falling In Love', then immediately left the stage to the cheers and screams of the audience. THe announcer said 'Ladies and Gentlemen, Elvis has left the building. Thank you and good night', ... and indeed it was a good night. Elvis had proven again that he is truly the King Of Rock N Roll. As one fan put it, 'Everyone came to see a living legend and Elvis didn't disappoint them'.

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The search goes on...my tape is NOT Monroe, March 7, 1974 ES..the key is the FS before Trying To get To You..it could now be Charlotte, March 9, 1974 ES as Monroe can be ruled out. Monroe is new..btw..too.


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