America is coming back, and America is coming back strong

[iplayastrat]

Prove it. From legitimate sources - CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, etc. And not from the likes of John Ratcliffe or Jim Jordan either. FOX News doesn't count either. It's not a real news station.

Obama's refusal to veto anti-Israel U.N. vote ranked
most anti-Semitic incident of 2016. Simon Wiesenthal
Center puts U.S. abstention at top of annual list.

Just throw a dart, you'll find more - if you want to.

[ForeverElvis]

Your suggestion that President Obama is anti-Semitic I find offensive.

You’ll need to provide examples of such behavior. You can’t just say something like that without providing evidence.

Not providing evidence means you only say such a thing for effect.

Time to put up or shut up.

Wow, you certainly put me in my place.

If you didn't notice it while he was in office,
then I'd say just Google it.

I'll double down and say that he was the most
anti-Christian and anti-Semite of the presidents
in my lifetime.

Looks like you've got eight years worth of Googling
to do. Not that you will. I highly doubt you want
the truth.

I don’t mind the truth.
You said it, you prove it.

Oh, and please use a recognized, credible source not sone bizarre internet wingnut link.


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[BrianTCB]

Your suggestion that President Obama is anti-Semitic I find offensive.

You’ll need to provide examples of such behavior. You can’t just say something like that without providing evidence.

Not providing evidence means you only say such a thing for effect.

Time to put up or shut up.

Wow, you certainly put me in my place.

If you didn't notice it while he was in office,
then I'd say just Google it.

I'll double down and say that he was the most
anti-Christian and anti-Semite of the presidents
in my lifetime.

Looks like you've got eight years worth of Googling
to do. Not that you will. I highly doubt you want
the truth.

Regarding Mexicans - this is from your own administration that you supposedly worship. This amounts to genocide. I think you SHOULD show this to "all your workers".

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/06/us/politics/family-separation-border-immigration-jeff-sessions-rod-rosenstein.html

"But the attorney general at the time, Jeff Sessions, made it clear what Mr. Trump wanted on a conference call later that afternoon, according to a two-year inquiry by the Justice Department’s inspector general into Mr. Trump’s “zero tolerance” family separation policy.

“We need to take away children,” Mr. Sessions told the prosecutors, according to participants’ notes. One added in shorthand: “If care about kids, don’t bring them in. Won’t give amnesty to people with kids.”

Rod J. Rosenstein, then the deputy attorney general, went even further in a second call about a week later, telling the five prosecutors that it did not matter how young the children were. He said that government lawyers should not have refused to prosecute two cases simply because the children were barely more than infants."

Obama was not anti-Christian. Obama was pro-diversity. There is a difference. Trump supporters need to get a bit more knowledge on the subject before spouting lies and FOX News talking points. By the way, your own first lady says "f*c*k Christmas." I'd call that all the anti-Christian I need to know about our current administration:

Melania Trump: “Who gives a f*c*k about Christmas stuff and decoration?... What about the children (in cages)? Give me a f*c*king break.”

This is all on tape!!! Link below.

No - I want you to do the research yourself and prove it. Exercise those brain muscles, Mr. Trump supporter.

..

[ForeverElvis]

Prove it. From legitimate sources - CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, etc. And not from the likes of John Ratcliffe or Jim Jordan either. FOX News doesn't count either. It's not a real news station.

Obama's refusal to veto anti-Israel U.N. vote ranked
most anti-Semitic incident of 2016. Simon Wiesenthal
Center puts U.S. abstention at top of annual list.

Just throw a dart, you'll find more - if you want to.

Prove it. From legitimate sources - CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, etc. And not from the likes of John Ratcliffe or Jim Jordan either. FOX News doesn't count either. It's not a real news station.

Obama's refusal to veto anti-Israel U.N. vote ranked
most anti-Semitic incident of 2016. Simon Wiesenthal
Center puts U.S. abstention at top of annual list.

Just throw a dart, you'll find more - if you want to.

Prove it. From legitimate sources - CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, etc. And not from the likes of John Ratcliffe or Jim Jordan either. FOX News doesn't count either. It's not a real news station.

Obama's refusal to veto anti-Israel U.N. vote ranked
most anti-Semitic incident of 2016. Simon Wiesenthal
Center puts U.S. abstention at top of annual list.

Just throw a dart, you'll find more - if you want to.

You mean the one where 13 of the 14 member security council countries said Israel was in violation of international law by increasing their settlement activity to further drive a wedge into a peaceful two state resolution. And the USA abstained from voting or using their veto power. Doing so would have left the USA alone and isolated.

former Canadian ambassador Paul Heinbecker noted that, Israeli and Palestinian narratives notwithstanding, resolution 2334 "reflects what the world thinks. It does not constitute a minority view or even a very divided view. If this resolution of the 15-member UN Security Council were put to a vote in the 193-member General Assembly, the outcome would scarcely be different."

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/ignore-the-political-theatre-resolution-2334-has-global-support/article33448958/

I’m not going to get into a geo-political argument with you.

You called Obama anti-Semitic and anti-Christian. You’ll need to provide links to statements that Obama has made expressing those views not a UN vote you didn’t like.

Like I said put up or shut up.


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[mike edwards66]

If your thinking Trump will defy the polls again . . .

Excuse my edit, ForeverElvis. I know you're not a fan. Anyhow, to answer your question, obviously, to win Trump has to defy the polls, just like last time.

My theory, the group that will decide this election are the Trump supporters that didn't vote last time. The guys and gals, wearing the MAGA, agreeing with everything he said, but never actually believing he could win.

This time it's different. They know he can win. This time they will vote.

[mike edwards66]

Vote for the good guy...vote for Biden November 3rd.

Or, vote for the winner.

[BrianTCB]

If your thinking Trump will defy the polls again . . .

Excuse my edit, ForeverElvis. I know you're not a fan. Anyhow, to answer your question, obviously, to win Trump has to defy the polls, just like last time.

My theory, the group that will decide this election are the Trump supporters that didn't vote last time. The guys and gals, wearing the MAGA, agreeing with everything he said, but never actually believing he could win.

This time it's different. They know he can win. This time they will vote.

It will be extraordinarily difficult for him to do so. It wasn't as difficult last time. And we have many voters who are pissed off at him. Including republicans. I highly doubt this "silent majority" exists as you describe it. If the likes (27,000) vs. dislikes (around 700, which I assume are Trump Supporters) of one recent Lincoln Project video is any indication...

[rickeap]

If your thinking Trump will defy the polls again . . .

Excuse my edit, ForeverElvis. I know you're not a fan. Anyhow, to answer your question, obviously, to win Trump has to defy the polls, just like last time.

My theory, the group that will decide this election are the Trump supporters that didn't vote last time. The guys and gals, wearing the MAGA, agreeing with everything he said, but never actually believing he could win.

This time it's different. They know he can win. This time they will vote.

I hope it's the other way around; that level-headed people who didn't believe he could win and didn't bother voting last time will this time make sure they don't put the US through another four years of his disastrous leadership.

[iplayastrat]

You mean the one where 13 of the 14 member security council countries said Israel was in violation of international law by increasing their settlement activity to further drive a wedge into a peaceful two state resolution. And the USA abstained from voting or using their veto power. Doing so would have left the USA alone and isolated.

I’m not going to get into a geo-political argument with you.

You called Obama anti-Semitic and anti-Christian. You’ll need to provide links to statements that Obama has made expressing those views not a UN vote you didn’t like.

There is no two state resolution. Israel is a sovereign State.
Israel does not occupy all of the land that was given them.

Palestinians are mostly Arab. Why doesn't the twenty two
Arab Nations take them and make a place for them? I'm sure
you've looked on a map and seen how relatively small the land
of Israel is, right? And you want them to divide their country?

I know this game. Whatever truth I give you, you won't accept.
That's why if you want to know the truth, read it for yourself.
How hard is it to Google Obama anti-Semitic or Obama anti-
Christian? Open up your eyes so that you can see.

[ForeverElvis]

You mean the one where 13 of the 14 member security council countries said Israel was in violation of international law by increasing their settlement activity to further drive a wedge into a peaceful two state resolution. And the USA abstained from voting or using their veto power. Doing so would have left the USA alone and isolated.

I’m not going to get into a geo-political argument with you.

You called Obama anti-Semitic and anti-Christian. You’ll need to provide links to statements that Obama has made expressing those views not a UN vote you didn’t like.

There is no two state resolution. Israel is a sovereign State.
Israel does not occupy all of the land that was given them.

Palestinians are mostly Arab. Why doesn't the twenty two
Arab Nations take them and make a place for them? I'm sure
you've looked on a map and seen how relatively small the land
of Israel is, right? And you want them to divide their country?

I know this game. Whatever truth I give you, you won't accept.
That's why if you want to know the truth, read it for yourself.
How hard is it to Google Obama anti-Semitic or Obama anti-
Christian? Open up your eyes so that you can see.

Two state solution not resolution, my typo.

I’m a very reasonable and somewhat intelligent Canadian and will always accept the truth, fact, justice.

You’ve made some hateful accusations. I’ve asked you to prove them. You either can’t or won’t. I’m guessing you can’t.

It’s like I could take what you’ve said in this thread and accuse you of being a racist bigot. I don’t know if that’s true, but if I made that accusation all I’d have to do to prove it would be to point to your comments here.

Time to put up or shut up.


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[mike edwards66]

If your thinking Trump will defy the polls again . . .

Excuse my edit, ForeverElvis. I know you're not a fan. Anyhow, to answer your question, obviously, to win Trump has to defy the polls, just like last time.

My theory, the group that will decide this election are the Trump supporters that didn't vote last time. The guys and gals, wearing the MAGA, agreeing with everything he said, but never actually believing he could win.

This time it's different. They know he can win. This time they will vote.

I hope it's the other way around; that level-headed people who didn't believe he could win and didn't bother voting last time will this time make sure they don't put the US through another four years of his disastrous leadership.

The other way around? I never thought of that, rick!

[iplayastrat]

You mean the one where 13 of the 14 member security council countries said Israel was in violation of international law by increasing their settlement activity to further drive a wedge into a peaceful two state resolution. And the USA abstained from voting or using their veto power. Doing so would have left the USA alone and isolated.

I’m not going to get into a geo-political argument with you.

You called Obama anti-Semitic and anti-Christian. You’ll need to provide links to statements that Obama has made expressing those views not a UN vote you didn’t like.

There is no two state resolution. Israel is a sovereign State.
Israel does not occupy all of the land that was given them.

Palestinians are mostly Arab. Why doesn't the twenty two
Arab Nations take them and make a place for them? I'm sure
you've looked on a map and seen how relatively small the land
of Israel is, right? And you want them to divide their country?

I know this game. Whatever truth I give you, you won't accept.
That's why if you want to know the truth, read it for yourself.
How hard is it to Google Obama anti-Semitic or Obama anti-
Christian? Open up your eyes so that you can see.

Two state solution not resolution, my typo.

I’m a very reasonable and somewhat intelligent Canadian and will always accept the truth, fact, justice.

You’ve made some hateful accusations. I’ve asked you to prove them. You either can’t or won’t. I’m guessing you can’t.

It’s like I could take what you’ve said in this thread and accuse you of being a racist bigot. I don’t know if that’s true, but if I made that accusation all I’d have to do to prove it would be to point to your comments here.

Time to put up or shut up.


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I knew what you meant by using the word resolution. I don't
play that "gotcha" game like some do. If I understand what
you mean, I'll respond.

I am an African-American male. And I am offended that you'd call
me a racist bigot. What is it? Do I write "white"? Because I'm black
does that automatically mean I voted for Obama? Or that I must be
a Democrat?

I don't do links, photographs etc... Whatever I write in response to
you - you won't believe as truth. Plus if you were willing to do the
research yourself, you'd know that I hadn't edited it in any way.

BTW, I'm not black, I'm just plain ole white bread.

[BrianTCB]

You mean the one where 13 of the 14 member security council countries said Israel was in violation of international law by increasing their settlement activity to further drive a wedge into a peaceful two state resolution. And the USA abstained from voting or using their veto power. Doing so would have left the USA alone and isolated.

I’m not going to get into a geo-political argument with you.

You called Obama anti-Semitic and anti-Christian. You’ll need to provide links to statements that Obama has made expressing those views not a UN vote you didn’t like.

There is no two state resolution. Israel is a sovereign State.
Israel does not occupy all of the land that was given them.

Palestinians are mostly Arab. Why doesn't the twenty two
Arab Nations take them and make a place for them? I'm sure
you've looked on a map and seen how relatively small the land
of Israel is, right? And you want them to divide their country?

I know this game. Whatever truth I give you, you won't accept.
That's why if you want to know the truth, read it for yourself.
How hard is it to Google Obama anti-Semitic or Obama anti-
Christian? Open up your eyes so that you can see.

Two state solution not resolution, my typo.

I’m a very reasonable and somewhat intelligent Canadian and will always accept the truth, fact, justice.

You’ve made some hateful accusations. I’ve asked you to prove them. You either can’t or won’t. I’m guessing you can’t.

It’s like I could take what you’ve said in this thread and accuse you of being a racist bigot. I don’t know if that’s true, but if I made that accusation all I’d have to do to prove it would be to point to your comments here.

Time to put up or shut up.


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I knew what you meant by using the word resolution. I don't
play that "gotcha" game like some do. If I understand what
you mean, I'll respond.

I am an African-American male. And I am offended that you'd call
me a racist bigot. What is it? Do I write "white"? Because I'm black
does that automatically mean I voted for Obama? Or that I must be
a Democrat?

I don't do links, photographs etc... Whatever I write in response to
you - you won't believe as truth. Plus if you were willing to do the
research yourself, you'd know that I hadn't edited it in any way.

BTW, I'm not black, I'm just plain ole white bread.

You are right that we won't believe a word you say. And it's not just because you're black. I don't listen to either Mikes at all. If you want to argue successfully on the web, you must provide legitimate sources with links, and quotes supporting your conclusions. That's how it's done. Links are fundamental to the world wide web. Saying you don't do links is like saying you are ignoring a fundamental aspect of creating a sound argument.

Nobody would ever believe a word anyone says based on their words alone. Especially when they could easily be a bot or whatever. And especially when it comes to a political argument.

[ForeverElvis]

You mean the one where 13 of the 14 member security council countries said Israel was in violation of international law by increasing their settlement activity to further drive a wedge into a peaceful two state resolution. And the USA abstained from voting or using their veto power. Doing so would have left the USA alone and isolated.

I’m not going to get into a geo-political argument with you.

You called Obama anti-Semitic and anti-Christian. You’ll need to provide links to statements that Obama has made expressing those views not a UN vote you didn’t like.

There is no two state resolution. Israel is a sovereign State.
Israel does not occupy all of the land that was given them.

Palestinians are mostly Arab. Why doesn't the twenty two
Arab Nations take them and make a place for them? I'm sure
you've looked on a map and seen how relatively small the land
of Israel is, right? And you want them to divide their country?

I know this game. Whatever truth I give you, you won't accept.
That's why if you want to know the truth, read it for yourself.
How hard is it to Google Obama anti-Semitic or Obama anti-
Christian? Open up your eyes so that you can see.

Two state solution not resolution, my typo.

I’m a very reasonable and somewhat intelligent Canadian and will always accept the truth, fact, justice.

You’ve made some hateful accusations. I’ve asked you to prove them. You either can’t or won’t. I’m guessing you can’t.

It’s like I could take what you’ve said in this thread and accuse you of being a racist bigot. I don’t know if that’s true, but if I made that accusation all I’d have to do to prove it would be to point to your comments here.

Time to put up or shut up.


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I knew what you meant by using the word resolution. I don't
play that "gotcha" game like some do. If I understand what
you mean, I'll respond.

I am an African-American male. And I am offended that you'd call
me a racist bigot. What is it? Do I write "white"? Because I'm black
does that automatically mean I voted for Obama? Or that I must be
a Democrat?

I don't do links, photographs etc... Whatever I write in response to
you - you won't believe as truth. Plus if you were willing to do the
research yourself, you'd know that I hadn't edited it in any way.

BTW, I'm not black, I'm just plain ole white bread.

For the record: I did not call you a racist bigot. I said, “if I made that accusation.”

It doesn’t matter to me who you voted for, as long as you voted.

As I’ve already stated,”I will always accept the truth, fact, justice.”

I don’t care what the color of your skin is. I do have doubts to the content of your character though.

To the topic at hand, I googled your suggestions and saw nothing from a credible journalist/news outlet that confirms you tasteless accusation.

If you’re going to have a political discussion you’ll need to provide links to support your point of view. The fact that you haven’t means you can’t.

I’ve told you to put up or shut up. As you can’t put up I guess you better s....................


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[Mike C]

You mean the one where 13 of the 14 member security council countries said Israel was in violation of international law by increasing their settlement activity to further drive a wedge into a peaceful two state resolution. And the USA abstained from voting or using their veto power. Doing so would have left the USA alone and isolated.

I’m not going to get into a geo-political argument with you.

You called Obama anti-Semitic and anti-Christian. You’ll need to provide links to statements that Obama has made expressing those views not a UN vote you didn’t like.

There is no two state resolution. Israel is a sovereign State.
Israel does not occupy all of the land that was given them.

Palestinians are mostly Arab. Why doesn't the twenty two
Arab Nations take them and make a place for them? I'm sure
you've looked on a map and seen how relatively small the land
of Israel is, right? And you want them to divide their country?

I know this game. Whatever truth I give you, you won't accept.
That's why if you want to know the truth, read it for yourself.
How hard is it to Google Obama anti-Semitic or Obama anti-
Christian? Open up your eyes so that you can see.

Obama spent 20 years in the pulpit of Rev. Jeramiah Wright marinating in his anti-Semitism. Here's two classic clips of what Wright taught him.





And, who can ever forgot then President Obama walking out of meeting with Prime Minister Netanyahu at the White House to have dinner in private?

For a head of government to visit the White House and not pose for photographers is rare. For a key ally to be left to his own devices while the President withdraws to have dinner in private was, until this week, unheard of. Yet that is how Binyamin Netanyahu was treated by President Obama on Tuesday night, according to Israeli reports on a trip viewed in Jerusalem as a humiliation, The Times reported Friday.

After failing to extract a written promise of concessions on settlements, Obama walked out of his meeting with Netanyahu but invited him to stay at the White House, consult with advisers and “let me know if there is anything new”, a U.S. congressman, who spoke to the Prime Minister, said.

https://nypost.com/2010/03/26/obama-dumped-netanyahu-for-private-dinner/

Or this beauty by the Obama administration?

People don't quite understand the damage done to Israel by the U.S. abstention that permitted passage of a U.N. Security Council resolution condemning Israel over settlements.

https://digitaledition.chicagotribune.com/tribune/article_popover.aspx?guid=d1499efd-34d6-4df3-9b99-e77a4c095e88

[ForeverElvis]

How does the world see America?
Fareed Zakaria explored this question recently.

This video contains portions of the show including its conclusion. The last 3 min describe the situation succinctly.




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[ForeverElvis]

You mean the one where 13 of the 14 member security council countries said Israel was in violation of international law by increasing their settlement activity to further drive a wedge into a peaceful two state resolution. And the USA abstained from voting or using their veto power. Doing so would have left the USA alone and isolated.

I’m not going to get into a geo-political argument with you.

You called Obama anti-Semitic and anti-Christian. You’ll need to provide links to statements that Obama has made expressing those views not a UN vote you didn’t like.

There is no two state resolution. Israel is a sovereign State.
Israel does not occupy all of the land that was given them.

Palestinians are mostly Arab. Why doesn't the twenty two
Arab Nations take them and make a place for them? I'm sure
you've looked on a map and seen how relatively small the land
of Israel is, right? And you want them to divide their country?

I know this game. Whatever truth I give you, you won't accept.
That's why if you want to know the truth, read it for yourself.
How hard is it to Google Obama anti-Semitic or Obama anti-
Christian? Open up your eyes so that you can see.

Obama spent 20 years in the pulpit of Rev. Jeramiah Wright marinating in his anti-Semitism. Here's two classic clips of what Wright taught him.





And, who can ever forgot then President Obama walking out of meeting with Prime Minister Netanyahu at the White House to have dinner in private?

For a head of government to visit the White House and not pose for photographers is rare. For a key ally to be left to his own devices while the President withdraws to have dinner in private was, until this week, unheard of. Yet that is how Binyamin Netanyahu was treated by President Obama on Tuesday night, according to Israeli reports on a trip viewed in Jerusalem as a humiliation, The Times reported Friday.

After failing to extract a written promise of concessions on settlements, Obama walked out of his meeting with Netanyahu but invited him to stay at the White House, consult with advisers and “let me know if there is anything new”, a U.S. congressman, who spoke to the Prime Minister, said.

https://nypost.com/2010/03/26/obama-dumped-netanyahu-for-private-dinner/

Or this beauty by the Obama administration?

People don't quite understand the damage done to Israel by the U.S. abstention that permitted passage of a U.N. Security Council resolution condemning Israel over settlements.

https://digitaledition.chicagotribune.com/tribune/article_popover.aspx?guid=d1499efd-34d6-4df3-9b99-e77a4c095e88

You mean the one where 13 of the 14 member security council countries said Israel was in violation of international law by increasing their settlement activity to further drive a wedge into a peaceful two state resolution. And the USA abstained from voting or using their veto power. Doing so would have left the USA alone and isolated.

I’m not going to get into a geo-political argument with you.

You called Obama anti-Semitic and anti-Christian. You’ll need to provide links to statements that Obama has made expressing those views not a UN vote you didn’t like.

There is no two state resolution. Israel is a sovereign State.
Israel does not occupy all of the land that was given them.

Palestinians are mostly Arab. Why doesn't the twenty two
Arab Nations take them and make a place for them? I'm sure
you've looked on a map and seen how relatively small the land
of Israel is, right? And you want them to divide their country?

I know this game. Whatever truth I give you, you won't accept.
That's why if you want to know the truth, read it for yourself.
How hard is it to Google Obama anti-Semitic or Obama anti-
Christian? Open up your eyes so that you can see.

Obama spent 20 years in the pulpit of Rev. Jeramiah Wright marinating in his anti-Semitism. Here's two classic clips of what Wright taught him.





And, who can ever forgot then President Obama walking out of meeting with Prime Minister Netanyahu at the White House to have dinner in private?

For a head of government to visit the White House and not pose for photographers is rare. For a key ally to be left to his own devices while the President withdraws to have dinner in private was, until this week, unheard of. Yet that is how Binyamin Netanyahu was treated by President Obama on Tuesday night, according to Israeli reports on a trip viewed in Jerusalem as a humiliation, The Times reported Friday.

After failing to extract a written promise of concessions on settlements, Obama walked out of his meeting with Netanyahu but invited him to stay at the White House, consult with advisers and “let me know if there is anything new”, a U.S. congressman, who spoke to the Prime Minister, said.

https://nypost.com/2010/03/26/obama-dumped-netanyahu-for-private-dinner/

Or this beauty by the Obama administration?

People don't quite understand the damage done to Israel by the U.S. abstention that permitted passage of a U.N. Security Council resolution condemning Israel over settlements.

https://digitaledition.chicagotribune.com/tribune/article_popover.aspx?guid=d1499efd-34d6-4df3-9b99-e77a4c095e88

Thanks for the links Mike.

Jeremiah Wright is anti-alot of things and is certainly controversial, but I didn’t hear or see Obama making any anti-Semitic or anti-Christian statements in these clips from FOX news (please remember FOX is not a credible source of news)

The story of the dinner with Netanyahu from the N.Y. Post (also not a very credible news source, it veers to sensationalism like a tabloid) highlights Obama leaving Netanyahu alone but misses the actual meat of the story, “After failing to extract a written promise of concessions on settlements, Obama walked out of his meeting with Netanyahu but invited him to stay at the White House, consult with advisers and “let me know if there is anything new”, a U.S. congressman, who spoke to the Prime Minister, said.”

I’d expect Obama to leave the meeting if Netanyahu wasn’t going to promise to make concessions, otherwise it’s just a photo op for Netanyahu.

The rest of the UN also condemned Israel over the settlements. The right-wing in America was upset because the USA didn’t use its veto power to stop it. This upset many, many heavy contributors to the Republican Party.

It’s about money.

Israel the country didn’t devolve into chaos, America did.

None of the links provided support the accusations that Obama is an anti-Semite or anti-Christian.


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[iplayastrat]

You are right that we won't believe a word you say. And it's not just because you're black.

I don't listen to either Mikes at all. If you want to argue successfully on the web, you must provide legitimate sources with links, and quotes supporting your conclusions. That's how it's done.

Links are fundamental to the world wide web. Saying you don't do links is like saying you are ignoring a fundamental aspect of creating a sound argument.

Just because I'm black? You're saying that's not the only
reason you won't believe me? But it is part of the reason?

You don't listen to either "Mikes". I'm in the same category
as them. So that means whatever I write you won't listen to
me either.

I could provide you with one hundred links and it wouldn't
make a difference.

All the info is out there if you dare look for it. I'm not doing
the work for you.

[iplayastrat]

Obama spent 20 years in the pulpit of Rev. Jeramiah Wright marinating in his anti-Semitism. Here's two classic clips of what Wright taught him.

And, who can ever forgot then President Obama walking out of meeting with Prime Minister Netanyahu at the White House to have dinner in private?


After failing to extract a written promise of concessions on settlements, Obama walked out of his meeting with Netanyahu but invited him to stay at the White House, consult with advisers and “let me know if there is anything new”, a U.S. congressman, who spoke to the Prime Minister, said.

Thanks for the links Mike.

Jeremiah Wright is anti-alot of things and is certainly controversial...

“After failing to extract a written promise of concessions on settlements, Obama walked out of his meeting with Netanyahu but invited him to stay at the White House, consult with advisers and “let me know if there is anything new”, a U.S. congressman, who spoke to the Prime Minister, said.”

I’d expect Obama to leave the meeting if Netanyahu wasn’t going to promise to make concessions, otherwise it’s just a photo op for Netanyahu.

The rest of the UN also condemned Israel over the settlements. The right-wing in America was upset because the USA didn’t use its veto power to stop it. This upset many, many heavy contributors to the Republican Party.

It’s about money...



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So you expect Obama to leave a meeting with Netanyahu,
but sit and listen to Jeremiah Wright for nearly twenty years?

Netanyahu should make no concessions. It's Israel's land. And
they should do with it what they will.

I'm glad Mike gave you links. Because I knew what you'd do
with them. The information is out there, if you care to look
for it.

[ForeverElvis]

Obama spent 20 years in the pulpit of Rev. Jeramiah Wright marinating in his anti-Semitism. Here's two classic clips of what Wright taught him.

And, who can ever forgot then President Obama walking out of meeting with Prime Minister Netanyahu at the White House to have dinner in private?


After failing to extract a written promise of concessions on settlements, Obama walked out of his meeting with Netanyahu but invited him to stay at the White House, consult with advisers and “let me know if there is anything new”, a U.S. congressman, who spoke to the Prime Minister, said.

Thanks for the links Mike.

Jeremiah Wright is anti-alot of things and is certainly controversial...

“After failing to extract a written promise of concessions on settlements, Obama walked out of his meeting with Netanyahu but invited him to stay at the White House, consult with advisers and “let me know if there is anything new”, a U.S. congressman, who spoke to the Prime Minister, said.”

I’d expect Obama to leave the meeting if Netanyahu wasn’t going to promise to make concessions, otherwise it’s just a photo op for Netanyahu.

The rest of the UN also condemned Israel over the settlements. The right-wing in America was upset because the USA didn’t use its veto power to stop it. This upset many, many heavy contributors to the Republican Party.

It’s about money...



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So you expect Obama to leave a meeting with Netanyahu,
but sit and listen to Jeremiah Wright for nearly twenty years?

Netanyahu should make no concessions. It's Israel's land. And
they should do with it what they will.

I'm glad Mike gave you links. Because I knew what you'd do
with them. The information is out there, if you care to look
for it.

“So you expect Obama to leave a meeting with Netanyahu” - if two world leaders are trying to negotiate and one isn’t negotiating in good faith I expect the other one, Obama in this case, to leverage the other as much as he can.

This is part of foreign policy, it’s not anti-Semitic.

Obama is Intelligent enough to parse what he needed from Wright, just because he’s in the congregation doesn’t mean he agrees with the pulpit all the time.

I don’t agree with my priest all the time but I still go to church.

As I said before I’m not getting into a geo-political fight with you, but saying it’s Israel’s land only, is like saying you gotta give Arizona back to the Navajo, it’s their land to do with what they want.

Neither is possible so mutual coexistence is the way forward, which is not the subjection of the Palestinians. The settlements were wrong, the world knew it and so did Obama.

The links mike provided did not support your tasteless fabrication that Obama is anti-Christian or anti-Semitic. I did take the time to look.

As I’ve said several times you’ve made a tasteless accusation, you’ve not proved it.

You have no credibility.

You can’t put up, you’ll have to shut up.


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[mike edwards66]

I don't listen to either Mikes at all.

You're saying that, and yet I've noticed you are a little more amiable of late.

I put this down to mine and Mike C's calming influence.

[BrianTCB]

I don't listen to either Mikes at all.

You're saying that, and yet I've noticed you are a little more amiable of late.

I put this down to mine and Mike C's calming influence.

Well, you guys are nice guys anyway. And I apologize for my past behavior. I'm tired of this election crap. Not changing my position - still voting Biden, however.

[BrianTCB]

Obama spent 20 years in the pulpit of Rev. Jeramiah Wright marinating in his anti-Semitism. Here's two classic clips of what Wright taught him.

And, who can ever forgot then President Obama walking out of meeting with Prime Minister Netanyahu at the White House to have dinner in private?


After failing to extract a written promise of concessions on settlements, Obama walked out of his meeting with Netanyahu but invited him to stay at the White House, consult with advisers and “let me know if there is anything new”, a U.S. congressman, who spoke to the Prime Minister, said.

Thanks for the links Mike.

Jeremiah Wright is anti-alot of things and is certainly controversial...

“After failing to extract a written promise of concessions on settlements, Obama walked out of his meeting with Netanyahu but invited him to stay at the White House, consult with advisers and “let me know if there is anything new”, a U.S. congressman, who spoke to the Prime Minister, said.”

I’d expect Obama to leave the meeting if Netanyahu wasn’t going to promise to make concessions, otherwise it’s just a photo op for Netanyahu.

The rest of the UN also condemned Israel over the settlements. The right-wing in America was upset because the USA didn’t use its veto power to stop it. This upset many, many heavy contributors to the Republican Party.

It’s about money...



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So you expect Obama to leave a meeting with Netanyahu,
but sit and listen to Jeremiah Wright for nearly twenty years?

Netanyahu should make no concessions. It's Israel's land. And
they should do with it what they will.

I'm glad Mike gave you links. Because I knew what you'd do
with them. The information is out there, if you care to look
for it.

“So you expect Obama to leave a meeting with Netanyahu” - if two world leaders are trying to negotiate and one isn’t negotiating in good faith I expect the other one, Obama in this case, to leverage the other as much as he can.

This is part of foreign policy, it’s not anti-Semitic.

Obama is Intelligent enough to parse what he needed from Wright, just because he’s in the congregation doesn’t mean he agrees with the pulpit all the time.

I don’t agree with my priest all the time but I still go to church.

As I said before I’m not getting into a geo-political fight with you, but saying it’s Israel’s land only, is like saying you gotta give Arizona back to the Navajo, it’s their land to do with what they want.

Neither is possible so mutual coexistence is the way forward, which is not the subjection of the Palestinians. The settlements were wrong, the world knew it and so did Obama.

The links mike provided did not support your tasteless fabrication that Obama is anti-Christian or anti-Semitic. I did take the time to look.

As I’ve said several times you’ve made a tasteless accusation, you’ve not proved it.

You have no credibility.

You can’t put up, you’ll have to shut up.


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Hate to say it...but it is put up or shut up.

[Mike C]

How does the world see America?
Fareed Zakaria explored this question recently.

This video contains portions of the show including its conclusion. The last 3 min describe the situation succinctly.




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Freed Zakaria? The guy literally has no viewers for his show on CNN. And, he has been caught plagiarizing others on three different occasions?

https://theweek.com/articles/442125/three-major-publications-have-acknowledged-plagiarism-by-fareed-zakaria-does-cnn-have-no-shame

I'd rather read the perspectives of those who stole from.

[Mike C]

You mean the one where 13 of the 14 member security council countries said Israel was in violation of international law by increasing their settlement activity to further drive a wedge into a peaceful two state resolution. And the USA abstained from voting or using their veto power. Doing so would have left the USA alone and isolated.

I’m not going to get into a geo-political argument with you.

You called Obama anti-Semitic and anti-Christian. You’ll need to provide links to statements that Obama has made expressing those views not a UN vote you didn’t like.

There is no two state resolution. Israel is a sovereign State.
Israel does not occupy all of the land that was given them.

Palestinians are mostly Arab. Why doesn't the twenty two
Arab Nations take them and make a place for them? I'm sure
you've looked on a map and seen how relatively small the land
of Israel is, right? And you want them to divide their country?

I know this game. Whatever truth I give you, you won't accept.
That's why if you want to know the truth, read it for yourself.
How hard is it to Google Obama anti-Semitic or Obama anti-
Christian? Open up your eyes so that you can see.

Obama spent 20 years in the pulpit of Rev. Jeramiah Wright marinating in his anti-Semitism. Here's two classic clips of what Wright taught him.





And, who can ever forgot then President Obama walking out of meeting with Prime Minister Netanyahu at the White House to have dinner in private?

For a head of government to visit the White House and not pose for photographers is rare. For a key ally to be left to his own devices while the President withdraws to have dinner in private was, until this week, unheard of. Yet that is how Binyamin Netanyahu was treated by President Obama on Tuesday night, according to Israeli reports on a trip viewed in Jerusalem as a humiliation, The Times reported Friday.

After failing to extract a written promise of concessions on settlements, Obama walked out of his meeting with Netanyahu but invited him to stay at the White House, consult with advisers and “let me know if there is anything new”, a U.S. congressman, who spoke to the Prime Minister, said.

https://nypost.com/2010/03/26/obama-dumped-netanyahu-for-private-dinner/

Or this beauty by the Obama administration?

People don't quite understand the damage done to Israel by the U.S. abstention that permitted passage of a U.N. Security Council resolution condemning Israel over settlements.

https://digitaledition.chicagotribune.com/tribune/article_popover.aspx?guid=d1499efd-34d6-4df3-9b99-e77a4c095e88

You mean the one where 13 of the 14 member security council countries said Israel was in violation of international law by increasing their settlement activity to further drive a wedge into a peaceful two state resolution. And the USA abstained from voting or using their veto power. Doing so would have left the USA alone and isolated.

I’m not going to get into a geo-political argument with you.

You called Obama anti-Semitic and anti-Christian. You’ll need to provide links to statements that Obama has made expressing those views not a UN vote you didn’t like.

There is no two state resolution. Israel is a sovereign State.
Israel does not occupy all of the land that was given them.

Palestinians are mostly Arab. Why doesn't the twenty two
Arab Nations take them and make a place for them? I'm sure
you've looked on a map and seen how relatively small the land
of Israel is, right? And you want them to divide their country?

I know this game. Whatever truth I give you, you won't accept.
That's why if you want to know the truth, read it for yourself.
How hard is it to Google Obama anti-Semitic or Obama anti-
Christian? Open up your eyes so that you can see.

Obama spent 20 years in the pulpit of Rev. Jeramiah Wright marinating in his anti-Semitism. Here's two classic clips of what Wright taught him.





And, who can ever forgot then President Obama walking out of meeting with Prime Minister Netanyahu at the White House to have dinner in private?

For a head of government to visit the White House and not pose for photographers is rare. For a key ally to be left to his own devices while the President withdraws to have dinner in private was, until this week, unheard of. Yet that is how Binyamin Netanyahu was treated by President Obama on Tuesday night, according to Israeli reports on a trip viewed in Jerusalem as a humiliation, The Times reported Friday.

After failing to extract a written promise of concessions on settlements, Obama walked out of his meeting with Netanyahu but invited him to stay at the White House, consult with advisers and “let me know if there is anything new”, a U.S. congressman, who spoke to the Prime Minister, said.

https://nypost.com/2010/03/26/obama-dumped-netanyahu-for-private-dinner/

Or this beauty by the Obama administration?

People don't quite understand the damage done to Israel by the U.S. abstention that permitted passage of a U.N. Security Council resolution condemning Israel over settlements.

https://digitaledition.chicagotribune.com/tribune/article_popover.aspx?guid=d1499efd-34d6-4df3-9b99-e77a4c095e88

Thanks for the links Mike.

Jeremiah Wright is anti-alot of things and is certainly controversial, but I didn’t hear or see Obama making any anti-Semitic or anti-Christian statements in these clips from FOX news (please remember FOX is not a credible source of news)

The story of the dinner with Netanyahu from the N.Y. Post (also not a very credible news source, it veers to sensationalism like a tabloid) highlights Obama leaving Netanyahu alone but misses the actual meat of the story, “After failing to extract a written promise of concessions on settlements, Obama walked out of his meeting with Netanyahu but invited him to stay at the White House, consult with advisers and “let me know if there is anything new”, a U.S. congressman, who spoke to the Prime Minister, said.”

I’d expect Obama to leave the meeting if Netanyahu wasn’t going to promise to make concessions, otherwise it’s just a photo op for Netanyahu.

The rest of the UN also condemned Israel over the settlements. The right-wing in America was upset because the USA didn’t use its veto power to stop it. This upset many, many heavy contributors to the Republican Party.

It’s about money.

Israel the country didn’t devolve into chaos, America did.

None of the links provided support the accusations that Obama is an anti-Semite or anti-Christian.


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So, Reverend Wright saying "them Jews won't let [Obama] talk to me" is not a touch anti-semetic? It certainly doesn't sound inviting!

Just curious, why is Fox News not a credible source for news? CNN, The New York Times and The Washington Post are just as liberal as Fox is conservative, yet you don't object to their stories being taken as gospel.

Based upon his policy choices as President, I'd say he harbors anti-semitism. However, Mark Hemmingway of The Federalist has a more nuanced take.

To be clear, even after two terms as president, Obama remains such a cipher that saying he mainstreamed anti-Semitism is hardly the same thing as saying he’s personally anti-Semitic. It is fair, however, to say he has consorted with Israel critics with dubious motivations and people with anti-Israel terror connections to such a degree that the most charitable thing one can say is that there’s a possibility his embrace of these people was just a way to cynically advance his political career and foreign policy priorities, priorities that were just coincidentally threatening to Israel’s security.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/03/12/ilhan-omar-barack-obama-mainstreamed-anti-semitism-democratic-party/