From Elvis In Nashville

[emjel]

I went back to Barnes and Noble today, again, and with the 4 copies they had and sold, the guy at the front desk told me he purchased the 5th copy that was shipped to the store. Jack also explained to me that no other copies of the 4-CD box version have not come in, in the last 3 weeks.

He expressed to me how phenomenal the Nashville set is and how I was gonna love it !!! LOL

He specifically ordered the set for me and when it gets delivered to the store, he'll gimme a call. I'm grateful.

May I ask why you don’t simply order it online?

I thought exactly the same and was going to ask that very question, which I think has been suggested before. But I’m sure we will see another episode of this saga in days to come.

[TCK_KING]

I have played this release from Spotify lately as its easier than digging out the cds but one strange thing is happening when playing thru Spotify app on my iPad:
None of the songs is faded,like the ending of "Rock It" with elvis laughing is just as loud as the rest of the song.
No idea if this is due to bug on my old iPad,Spotify settings or if this is for anyone else.

[drghanem]

Just received the USA version of the great 4CD-set. The difference between this and the EU version (both are pressed and printed in Europe, I believe) include the typo fixed on Bridge Over Troubled Water in tracklist, a logo-difference and different type of plastic for the shrink. I’m so happy to finally have them both, nerdy me!

[Christopher]

... "different type of plastic for the shrink".
oh, how i love those nerdy collectors.
have fun with it, drghanem - do you play or just store it to keep the shrink foil intact?

[Ryan73]

I have to say these cds have been on continuous play in my car and the I'm continually blown away by the mastering of these sessions. Again, the Elvis Country cuts have always been my favourite sessions from the 70s but even some of the TTWII cuts have been made far more interesting with the stripped down approach featured on these cds. I really hope that they release more sessions in this format by the same producer.

[emjel]

I have to say these cds have been on continuous play in my car and the I'm continually blown away by the mastering of these sessions. Again, the Elvis Country cuts have always been my favourite sessions from the 70s but even some of the TTWII cuts have been made far more interesting with the stripped down approach featured on these cds. I really hope that they release more sessions in this format by the same producer.

There can’t be that much left where Elvis sounds as good vocally. We’ve had Stax and Jungle Room where his voice was not as good so what other sessions could they do that would be of interest to not only fans but the public too if it is going to be a mainstream release. The Today Sessions?

[Mister Mike]

If the same team took on the '69 sessions in the same manner and format, I'd be all over it in a second.

[drghanem]

They will

[emjel]

They will

Why would they do that. They have already released a mainstream thing on the digital,platform and a box under FTD. Since it’s release on digital 18 months ago, it has generated just under 8k worth of worldwide album sales via streaming. Not exactly a massive market uptake so is Sony likely to pay the guy who did the Nashville stuff a handsome payment if there is little interest.

[drghanem]

Why? I think becuase there is money to be made. The box may not be complete but can rather be similar to the Nashville set which mixed masters with outtakes. FECC ROCKS!

[emjel]

Why? I think becuase there is money to be made. The box may not be complete but can rather be similar to the Nashville set which mixed masters with outtakes. FECC ROCKS!

How do you work that out? The Memphis ‘69 sessions are regarded as some of Elvis’ very best recordings especially by critics and the media. From that, Sony had the perfect opportunity to do what you are suggesting on the 50th anniversary but Sony decided the market was not big enough to support such a venture as the majority of fans already had the 3 FTD sets of the Memphis stuff and were not convinced enough would buy yet another set so went for the cheaper route of providing 99% of all the stuff on the digital platforms for the general public. And as far as the public were concerned, the Legacy edition of the Memphis album probably fulfilled their needs to a certain extent. As it turned out, and off the back of a bit of a backlash, Sony allowed FTD to put out their own box version which would have probably happened anyway under the new Sessions Series of releases.

Now I am sure there will be some fans who would buy into a reworked set of the Memphis sessions, but is "some" enough to warrant paying Ross his fee for working on all that stuff and then get a profit. The other thing to consider is that the majority of the Nashville songs/recordings were good enough to hear without overdubs but there is a general feeling by some fans that a fair number of songs on Memphis were designed for overdubs and also Elvis’ voice on those Memphis sessions needed the overdubs to cover up areas where Elvis voice appeared to be straining.

Personally, I think you are overestimating the demand for this kind of Elvis product especially within a market that is fragmented.

[r&b]

did this ever make the Billboard top 200 chart?

[emjel]

did this ever make the Billboard top 200 chart?

No it did not.

[Ryan73]

I have to say these cds have been on continuous play in my car and the I'm continually blown away by the mastering of these sessions. Again, the Elvis Country cuts have always been my favourite sessions from the 70s but even some of the TTWII cuts have been made far more interesting with the stripped down approach featured on these cds. I really hope that they release more sessions in this format by the same producer.

There can’t be that much left where Elvis sounds as good vocally. We’ve had Stax and Jungle Room where his voice was not as good so what other sessions could they do that would be of interest to not only fans but the public too if it is going to be a mainstream release. The Today Sessions?

That is a problem of which i don't have an answer today. Probably as you've suggested the Today Sessions. I have never understood why Elvis vocals have as much echo as the early sun recordings. They didn't do that during late 50s, 60s and this new release and understanding of how to properly mix in the instrumentation, arrangements with a clear Elvis voice really did the trick T-R-O-U-B-L-E is one of the most horrendous using of that echo effect.....not sure if can be cleaned up or not....OR as you suggest that they'd even bother for an ever decreasing market.

[ForeverElvis]

I have to say these cds have been on continuous play in my car and the I'm continually blown away by the mastering of these sessions. Again, the Elvis Country cuts have always been my favourite sessions from the 70s but even some of the TTWII cuts have been made far more interesting with the stripped down approach featured on these cds. I really hope that they release more sessions in this format by the same producer.

There can’t be that much left where Elvis sounds as good vocally. We’ve had Stax and Jungle Room where his voice was not as good so what other sessions could they do that would be of interest to not only fans but the public too if it is going to be a mainstream release. The Today Sessions?

That is a problem of which i don't have an answer today. Probably as you've suggested the Today Sessions. I have never understood why Elvis vocals have as much echo as the early sun recordings. They didn't do that during late 50s, 60s and this new release and understanding of how to properly mix in the instrumentation, arrangements with a clear Elvis voice really did the trick T-R-O-U-B-L-E is one of the most horrendous using of that echo effect.....not sure if can be cleaned up or not....OR as you suggest that they'd even bother for an ever decreasing market.

The 70’s studio sessions in 1971, 1972 and 1975 are left to be covered by a similar in style release like Nashville, Stax and Way Down in the Jungle Room.

Of the remaining years, he was at his best vocally in 1972. But, there’s not enough material and outtakes for a three, let alone four cd set. Same with 1975.

It’s likely we will get something to highlight 1971 next. But will it include the Christmas, Gospel and secular material all together or just the secular recordings?

[emjel]

I have to say these cds have been on continuous play in my car and the I'm continually blown away by the mastering of these sessions. Again, the Elvis Country cuts have always been my favourite sessions from the 70s but even some of the TTWII cuts have been made far more interesting with the stripped down approach featured on these cds. I really hope that they release more sessions in this format by the same producer.

There can’t be that much left where Elvis sounds as good vocally. We’ve had Stax and Jungle Room where his voice was not as good so what other sessions could they do that would be of interest to not only fans but the public too if it is going to be a mainstream release. The Today Sessions?

That is a problem of which i don't have an answer today. Probably as you've suggested the Today Sessions. I have never understood why Elvis vocals have as much echo as the early sun recordings. They didn't do that during late 50s, 60s and this new release and understanding of how to properly mix in the instrumentation, arrangements with a clear Elvis voice really did the trick T-R-O-U-B-L-E is one of the most horrendous using of that echo effect.....not sure if can be cleaned up or not....OR as you suggest that they'd even bother for an ever decreasing market.

The 70’s studio sessions in 1971, 1972 and 1975 are left to be covered by a similar in style release like Nashville, Stax and Way Down in the Jungle Room.

Of the remaining years, he was at his best vocally in 1972. But, there’s not enough material and outtakes for a three, let alone four cd set. Same with 1975.

It’s likely we will get something to highlight 1971 next. But will it include the Christmas, Gospel and secular material all together or just the secular recordings?

I am sure that FTD will cover those years/sessions you write about but I simply cannot see Sony doing a mainstream release for those. What is there to really highlight - How do they market sessions that has no real historical context. Those outside of the fanbase may have taken an interest in the Stax sessions because of the Stax studio and Sony could market that. Those same people may have taken a similar interest in the Jungle Room sessions because of what they were - his last recordings and done at his home and Sony could definitely market those recordings on that basis. They could market the Nashville 70 sessions in some way as 50th anniversary and a link to TTWII and the fact that the sessions not only contained some great songs, but Elvis was in top voice too. But this latest release has not exactly caught the attention of the public despite the quality of the material, which may leave the bean counters with some frowns on their faces.

So how would Sony market the ‘71 sessions in such a way to gather interest from the public. It was just a few sessions that contained a mixture of songs, some good and some not so good and as you say, not only contained secular recordings but gospel and Christmas recordings too, with the latter two genres having limited appeal. There was nothing truly mind blowing that came out of the remaining stuff and Sony cannot even link the recordings to a big selling album from the period. Couple this with the fact that Elvis’ voice was certainly not so good as in the previous year, and it is difficult to see any excitement coming from the Sony camp by way of spending money on remixing/remastering these recordings.

And basically, the same applies to the Today sessions which is the only thing left from the 70s. What could be the unique selling point to get the interest of a non fan. It’s not like the sessions produced a msssive single.

And how would they get a similar 3 or even a 4 CD set from those. 1972 hasn’t exactly got an abundance of songs that could produce a decent boxset like the others that have come before.

[rollinson1]

did this ever make the Billboard top 200 chart?

Who cares, this is a fantastic release. For anyone who never hears this or even cares that's their loss. Me, I've listened to this set at least a dozen times so far and there will be a few more I hope before I leave this world.

I have to say these cds have been on continuous play in my car and the I'm continually blown away by the mastering of these sessions. Again, the Elvis Country cuts have always been my favourite sessions from the 70s but even some of the TTWII cuts have been made far more interesting with the stripped down approach featured on these cds. I really hope that they release more sessions in this format by the same producer.

There can’t be that much left where Elvis sounds as good vocally. We’ve had Stax and Jungle Room where his voice was not as good so what other sessions could they do that would be of interest to not only fans but the public too if it is going to be a mainstream release. The Today Sessions?

Yes I would go for the Today sessions like the Nashville set (Undubbed Masters & Outtakes), if you are a true fan you will buy it. Again whether the general public like it is a different matter altogether.

[emjel]

did this ever make the Billboard top 200 chart?

Who cares, this is a fantastic release. For anyone who never hears this or even cares that's their loss. Me, I've listened to this set at least a dozen times so far and there will be a few more I hope before I leave this world.

I have to say these cds have been on continuous play in my car and the I'm continually blown away by the mastering of these sessions. Again, the Elvis Country cuts have always been my favourite sessions from the 70s but even some of the TTWII cuts have been made far more interesting with the stripped down approach featured on these cds. I really hope that they release more sessions in this format by the same producer.

There can’t be that much left where Elvis sounds as good vocally. We’ve had Stax and Jungle Room where his voice was not as good so what other sessions could they do that would be of interest to not only fans but the public too if it is going to be a mainstream release. The Today Sessions?

Yes I would go for the Today sessions like the Nashville set (Undubbed Masters & Outtakes), if you are a true fan you will buy it. Again whether the general public like it is a different matter altogether.

I would suggest that Sony cares about sales for the Nashville set because if sales are too low, it may dissuade them from doing anything in the future, if there is anything that has merit for doing. Yes, FTD could do the Today sessions under their new series, but mainstream? I just don’t see it.

[r&b]

did this ever make the Billboard top 200 chart?

Who cares, this is a fantastic release. For anyone who never hears this or even cares that's their loss. Me, I've listened to this set at least a dozen times so far and there will be a few more I hope before I leave this world.

I have to say these cds have been on continuous play in my car and the I'm continually blown away by the mastering of these sessions. Again, the Elvis Country cuts have always been my favourite sessions from the 70s but even some of the TTWII cuts have been made far more interesting with the stripped down approach featured on these cds. I really hope that they release more sessions in this format by the same producer.

There can’t be that much left where Elvis sounds as good vocally. We’ve had Stax and Jungle Room where his voice was not as good so what other sessions could they do that would be of interest to not only fans but the public too if it is going to be a mainstream release. The Today Sessions?

Yes I would go for the Today sessions like the Nashville set (Undubbed Masters & Outtakes), if you are a true fan you will buy it. Again whether the general public like it is a different matter altogether.

I would suggest that Sony cares about sales for the Nashville set because if sales are too low, it may dissuade them from doing anything in the future, if there is anything that has merit for doing. Yes, FTD could do the Today sessions under their new series, but mainstream? I just don’t see it.

There is no need to revisit mainstream with Today. It was already released there as a Legacy set and I still saw a copy last time I was in Barnes. Why do people keep think adding a few outtakes will excite the mainstream. It wont, average CD buyers (if there is such a thing anymore) dont care. Its over and done

[pmp]

did this ever make the Billboard top 200 chart?

Who cares, this is a fantastic release. For anyone who never hears this or even cares that's their loss. Me, I've listened to this set at least a dozen times so far and there will be a few more I hope before I leave this world.

I have to say these cds have been on continuous play in my car and the I'm continually blown away by the mastering of these sessions. Again, the Elvis Country cuts have always been my favourite sessions from the 70s but even some of the TTWII cuts have been made far more interesting with the stripped down approach featured on these cds. I really hope that they release more sessions in this format by the same producer.

There can’t be that much left where Elvis sounds as good vocally. We’ve had Stax and Jungle Room where his voice was not as good so what other sessions could they do that would be of interest to not only fans but the public too if it is going to be a mainstream release. The Today Sessions?

Yes I would go for the Today sessions like the Nashville set (Undubbed Masters & Outtakes), if you are a true fan you will buy it. Again whether the general public like it is a different matter altogether.

A boxed set of eleven songs? Highly unlikely at retail. And the public has already had the "rough mixes" on the Legacy edition anyway. And Keith's website shows that there's little point in returning to the Today sessions for FTD considering how little is left in the vaults. Not a single song went over 6 takes, and some of those are false starts.

Next year will see something made of the 1971 sessions, even if it's only at FTD level for copyright purposes.

[rockinrebel]

I suppose it's possible that they could produce a mainstream set which includes both the 1972 & 1975 studio recordings as they were all recorded at RCA Hollywood.

[r&b]

did this ever make the Billboard top 200 chart?

Who cares, this is a fantastic release. For anyone who never hears this or even cares that's their loss. Me, I've listened to this set at least a dozen times so far and there will be a few more I hope before I leave this world.

I have to say these cds have been on continuous play in my car and the I'm continually blown away by the mastering of these sessions. Again, the Elvis Country cuts have always been my favourite sessions from the 70s but even some of the TTWII cuts have been made far more interesting with the stripped down approach featured on these cds. I really hope that they release more sessions in this format by the same producer.

There can’t be that much left where Elvis sounds as good vocally. We’ve had Stax and Jungle Room where his voice was not as good so what other sessions could they do that would be of interest to not only fans but the public too if it is going to be a mainstream release. The Today Sessions?

Yes I would go for the Today sessions like the Nashville set (Undubbed Masters & Outtakes), if you are a true fan you will buy it. Again whether the general public like it is a different matter altogether.

Now thats funny considering people are so chart obsessed here and in the first few weeks of release a main concern was if it would chart in Billboard. I guess you dont know your fellow forum members very well. I dont really care was just curious since no one has updated that issue.

[ForeverElvis]

I suppose it's possible that they could produce a mainstream set which includes both the 1972 & 1975 studio recordings as they were all recorded at RCA Hollywood.

Now that’s something that didn’t cross my mind.

I could see the selling points; Burning Love, final studio sessions, only studio sessions with TCB band.

18 songs, most outtakes have been released but, if a mainstream release I could see a 3cd set.

[emjel]

I suppose it's possible that they could produce a mainstream set which includes both the 1972 & 1975 studio recordings as they were all recorded at RCA Hollywood.

Now that’s something that didn’t cross my mind.

I could see the selling points; Burning Love, final studio sessions, only studio sessions with TCB band.

18 songs, most outtakes have been released but, if a mainstream release I could see a 3cd set.

Seriously, apart from diehards who need everything duplicated or re-issued/remixed/remastered to the nth degree, what person on the street would give a damn whether Elvis recorded in RCA Hollywood or Nashville. What is the selling headline going to be? "Hear Elvis sing 18 amazing songs that were recorded at RCA Hollywood in 1972 and 1975....subheading "Only studio sessions with the TCB Band". The public do not know the TCB band and care less about them too and these days they have little interest in a load of unreleased Elvis outtakes especially on a physical product so why would you need a third CD.

Something else which also needs thinking about is that by the end of 2022, some of the unreleased On Tour stuff, whether that is the studio outtake recordings or the live shows will drop out of copyright, so if Sony want to retain that, they will need to release that stuff sometime during 2022 and I reckon that will come along together with a book via FTD and will probably follow the format like the recent TTWII set although less CDs and just one book. Once FTD have that pencilled in for a 2022 release, where would Sony go with a mainstream release for the 1972/75 thing you are suggesting.

[ForeverElvis]

I suppose it's possible that they could produce a mainstream set which includes both the 1972 & 1975 studio recordings as they were all recorded at RCA Hollywood.

Now that’s something that didn’t cross my mind.

I could see the selling points; Burning Love, final studio sessions, only studio sessions with TCB band.

18 songs, most outtakes have been released but, if a mainstream release I could see a 3cd set.

Seriously, apart from diehards who need everything duplicated or re-issued/remixed/remastered to the nth degree, what person on the street would give a damn whether Elvis recorded in RCA Hollywood or Nashville. What is the selling headline going to be? "Hear Elvis sing 18 amazing songs that were recorded at RCA Hollywood in 1972 and 1975....subheading "Only studio sessions with the TCB Band". The public do not know the TCB band and care less about them too and these days they have little interest in a load of unreleased Elvis outtakes especially on a physical product so why would you need a third CD.

Something else which also needs thinking about is that by the end of 2022, some of the unreleased On Tour stuff, whether that is the studio outtake recordings or the live shows will drop out of copyright, so if Sony want to retain that, they will need to release that stuff sometime during 2022 and I reckon that will come along together with a book via FTD and will probably follow the format like the recent TTWII set although less CDs and just one book. Once FTD have that pencilled in for a 2022 release, where would Sony go with a mainstream release for the 1972/75 thing you are suggesting.

Except for the specialty market, like FTD, I think physical media is all but dead. I was surprised at the mainstream release of “Nashville”.

If Sony wants to continue with these types of mainstream releases then the 72/75 hybrid is one idea. There really isn’t anything of real importance with the scattered 1971 sessions.

The selling point would be Burning Love and Always On My Mind. Two iconic recordings.

I would expect a huge box in 2022 on Elvis On Tour to avoid the copyright issue.

Btw regarding the copyright issue - seems like a lot of people post about it being the end of all things but, it is only an issue in the UK and Europe, this copyright issue doesn’t affect North American releases.