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Re: From Elvis In Nashville

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ForeverElvis wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:11 pm
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rockinrebel wrote:I suppose it's possible that they could produce a mainstream set which includes both the 1972 & 1975 studio recordings as they were all recorded at RCA Hollywood.
Now that’s something that didn’t cross my mind.

I could see the selling points; Burning Love, final studio sessions, only studio sessions with TCB band.

18 songs, most outtakes have been released but, if a mainstream release I could see a 3cd set.
Seriously, apart from diehards who need everything duplicated or re-issued/remixed/remastered to the nth degree, what person on the street would give a damn whether Elvis recorded in RCA Hollywood or Nashville. What is the selling headline going to be? "Hear Elvis sing 18 amazing songs that were recorded at RCA Hollywood in 1972 and 1975....subheading "Only studio sessions with the TCB Band". The public do not know the TCB band and care less about them too and these days they have little interest in a load of unreleased Elvis outtakes especially on a physical product so why would you need a third CD.

Something else which also needs thinking about is that by the end of 2022, some of the unreleased On Tour stuff, whether that is the studio outtake recordings or the live shows will drop out of copyright, so if Sony want to retain that, they will need to release that stuff sometime during 2022 and I reckon that will come along together with a book via FTD and will probably follow the format like the recent TTWII set although less CDs and just one book. Once FTD have that pencilled in for a 2022 release, where would Sony go with a mainstream release for the 1972/75 thing you are suggesting.
Except for the specialty market, like FTD, I think physical media is all but dead. I was surprised at the mainstream release of “Nashville”.

If Sony wants to continue with these types of mainstream releases then the 72/75 hybrid is one idea. There really isn’t anything of real importance with the scattered 1971 sessions.

The selling point would be Burning Love and Always On My Mind. Two iconic recordings.

I would expect a huge box in 2022 on Elvis On Tour to avoid the copyright issue.

Btw regarding the copyright issue - seems like a lot of people post about it being the end of all things but, it is only an issue in the UK and Europe, this copyright issue doesn’t affect North American releases.
When you say that "if Sony wants to continue with these type of mainstream releases", I am not convinced they do or will going forward for the very reasons I have outlined. When you state that there isn't anything of real importance with the 1971 sessions, where is the importance of the 1972 sessions. I am sure they figure as being important in the mind of diehard fans, but your average person in the street or even a casual fan will not regard them as being important.

If FTD release an On Tour set, why would Sony issue a set where a percentage of it contains the same material i.e. Burning Love and Almost On My Mind. The majority of the fans would not buy it if they had an On Tour set which means that the end mainstream market is reduced further. At least with the Nashville set, the bulk of the sales were taken up by fans who relished the idea of getting un-dubbed masters and then with some small additional sales coming from joe public. With regard to the two iconic recordings (your words), the public can get these on a greatest hits compilation if they need them - they are not necessarily a strong selling point for a box set that contains other stuff which is not so great..

When you say you would expect a huge box, do you mean 24 x 24 or the number of discs :wink: Seriously, it is not likely to be bigger than the TTWII set even if they release all four shows plus the sessions. I doubt it would be more than 6 discs. Also, with the negative feedback on the size and cost of the TTWII set, I doubt FTD will go down the route of two big books - I am not even sure there is the scope for two books like the TTWII which was broken down into studio rehearsals and then the shows.

Regarding the copyright thing, I do not really understand the relevance of that comment. As long as Sony retain copyright, surely that is all that matters. Sony would not want the stuff falling into Public Domain so that companies like MRS could start putting stuff out for Europe etc


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Re: From Elvis In Nashville

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Was this set ever reviewed in any of the UK monthly music magazines? I don't recall seeing any reviews at all. Sad if it wasn't.



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I personally really liked this kind of material. But I still think that for the general public a release with the remixed masters would have been more successful, maybe a 2-CD set, 5" format, with a booklet.
I believe that the undubbed versions and alternate takes should be released by FTD. Just my opinion.



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Re: From Elvis In Nashville

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Memphisflash wrote:
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Mike Windgren wrote:
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Hi there!! :D :D :D.

I´ve had the set for several days and it has been a non-stop listening, it´s favourite boxset of mine, outstanding sound! :smt020.

As a rule I don´t buy recent Elvis vinyl releases, I stick to originals only. Wanted to buy the "Graceland" coloured vinyl release, but they´re asking almost 70.00 $ :shock: on shipping to Spain, so I´ll pas on this!. Bye for now :smt006.
I had the same problem Mike... they wanted over $60 US to ship a $24 album to Canada...
Ordered two, shipping 70 usd, records never came, Graceland got the albums returned due to a USPS fault, and refunded only the records - bye bye 70 on shipping .... I buy never ever from that sh*t hole of a store again
Yeah they obviously don't care for selling to Canadians... sorry to hear you lost your postage... ridiculous...



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I bought the CD version and the EU vinyl. The CD is excellent, but the vinyl is one of the poorest pressings I've ever owned. Poor sound, noisy and it even skips on some tracks.

I wouldn't recommend paying over the odds for a vinyl version of this album. Generally, I love vinyl, but in this case, if you have the CD's that's all you need.



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Hi there!! :D :D :D.

Unexpected, didn´t know that this boxset was re-released recently, some stated on here that it was a poor seller :roll:.

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Had to buy another copy as a gift for a relative and when I opened the amazon mailing box, I found that this boxset was missing the original SONY sticker on the front cover, so it has be a second edition.... 8). Bye for now :smt006.

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Mike Windgren wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:16 am
Hi there!! :D :D :D.

Unexpected, didn´t know that this boxset was re-released recently, some stated on here that it was a poor seller :roll:.

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Had to buy another copy as a gift for a relative and when I opened the amazon mailing box, I found that this boxset was missing the original SONY sticker on the front cover, so it has be a second edition.... 8). Bye for now :smt006.

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It hasn’t been re-released, nor a second edition/re-press in the strictest sense - just that some got missed in the production run of applying the hype sticker to the shrink wrap. The release has done a lot better on the digital platforms as opposed to physical sales which globally is not that high. Overall inc streaming, and around 6 months ago, the set had equivalent sales globally of around 37k with around 73% of that attributed to digital streaming etc.


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Whats happens is with new releases have a hype sticker on the front this includes CDS bosets and Albums for a limited time then they are produced without the Hype sticker .
I have seen this with loads of Elvis Sony releases



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Re: From Elvis In Nashville

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mmoie wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:32 pm
Whats happens is with new releases have a hype sticker on the front this includes CDS bosets and Albums for a limited time then they are produced without the Hype sticker .
I have seen this with loads of Elvis Sony releases
Apart from some missing out in getting the hype sticker applied as they go through the process of being shrink wrapped, Sony are most likely to produce a run of 15k units but apply the hype sticker to the first 10k units.


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