Elvis Back In Nashville (4 cd Box Set)

[eric c]

this box set makes me think about what should've been Elvis Now:
•help me make it through the night
•i'm leavin'
•it's only love
•the first time ever i saw your face
•until its time for you to go
•we can make the morning
•early mornin' rain
•thats what you get for lovin' me
•fools rush in
•don't think twice,its alright
•its still here
•i'll take you home again kathleen
•i will be true

13 tracks...i removed rosary,hey jude,hand in the hand,sylvia and 10,000yrs ago.

i put sylvia on the love letters album.

i add miracle of the rosary and put your hand in the hand on the wonderful world of christmas.

i don't know if this line up would've changed anything but i think its a better album.

i'm sure yall have done the same...love to hear your line-ups of what should've been.

There’s no way RCA would have out out a 13 track album. And you have effectively cancelled the Fool album by removing 50% of the tracks from it.

no.
not canceled.
the fool album gets made up of the 7 studio cuts from '72 and the live vegas tracks.
•fool
•where do i go from here
•for the good times
•it's impossible
•it's over
•seperate ways
•always on my mind
•burning love
•its a matter of time
•never been to spain
•you gave me a mountain
•an american trilogy
•impossible dream

a much better album in my opinion.
and some of the elements were already in place.

Once again, RCA would not release a 13 track album without getting hit with additional costs. And you’ve cut into a couple of Camden albums too which were far more successful than Elvis’ regular studio albums. We know in hindsight what would have made better albums, although I have never been convinced that a studio album mixed with "live" tracks works very well, but the "live" songs you now want to add on to the Fool album would not have been a consideration for RCA as those songs had already been on either MSG and Aloha or both.

Bottom line here is that as much as you want to re-hash Elvis albums to make them appear better, had Elvis knuckled down and recorded more and better songs in the studio during this time, we would have had better albums instead of the hotch potch releases we got via Now and Fool.

heaven forbid we tamper with the camden releases.
regardless of their success...great songs like burning love,seperate ways and always on my mind should not have been on budget albums surrounded by movie fluff.
they belonged on the fool album.
and i think thats the way it is proved how an album with studio cuts and live tracks could work...beautifully.
what ernst put together on standing room only...13 tracks i might add...proves it as well and that should've been the fool album back then.

[Rich_TCB]

i hope there will be some candid studio talk included in the outtakes.
listening to studio sessions, it´s only half the fun without it for me.
the more the better and uncensored please, no need for today´s "political correctness" when it comes to historical recordings.

I would assume they assembled these recordings the same way as the Nashville 1970 box set. The recordings were uncensored and included new studio chat.

The Nashville 1970 box set was so well done, that I am really anticipating this new release. I was pleasantly surprised with the way Matt handled the mixes, he did a really good job. And I can't wait to hear all of the masters undubbed.

And hopefully -- finally -- we will have the absolute ultimate release of the unedited master of "Merry Christmas Baby".

And everything else is just the cherry on top of the sundae.

[Rob]

One could make a pretty good album if they took all of those Nashville '71 tracks, sorted them out and picked ten or twelve songs. I've seen some of the fantasy lists here before. As mentioned, there were good songs recorded during these sessions, along with some that would be omitted if I were to make up such an album. That said, these sessions were nothing to sneeze at. I like 90% of what was recorded.

But I'm just that way.

That percentage seems unusually low.

Did "Padre" not make it?

It just missed the cut.

[hli]

Did "Padre" not make it?

From the youtube-video added below
September 22, 1958. Location: Brooklyn, New York

Reporter: "Most of the people have a song that's sort or special to them. Do you have a favorite song?"
Elvis: "My favorite song is called Padre. Are you familiar with it by Toni Arden?"

Source: “The complete ‘50 Masters”. Also in “ Elvis” What he said, exactly how he said It.... Word for word” by Jerry Osborne.




The version by Toni is... well....the fraise "over the top" comes to mind.

I'm well aware of Toni Arden's top twenty hit from nearly 63 years ago, and Elvis' press conference comment. But you fail to include the entire answer, why is that?

Perhaps because Presley names two songs that are favorites, at the time:

My favorite song is a song called “Padre.” Are you familiar with it, by Toni Arden?

And also, “You'll Never Walk Alone” was always one of my very favorites.

There are many covers that followed Arden's hit single, and Elvis' recording doesn't make the top five.

It's bad.

ah Padre.. indeed a terrible song, i think it would be wise to skip this whole release

[elvis-fan]

One could make a pretty good album if they took all of those Nashville '71 tracks, sorted them out and picked ten or twelve songs. I've seen some of the fantasy lists here before. As mentioned, there were good songs recorded during these sessions, along with some that would be omitted if I were to make up such an album. That said, these sessions were nothing to sneeze at. I like 90% of what was recorded.

Leaving out the holiday tracks and mixing in a couple of the better gospel tunes, I'd go with something like...

Side A
The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face
Don't Think Twice, It's All Right
Amazing Grace (Take 2)
Early Mornin' Rain
(That's What You Get) For Lovin' Me
Help Me Make It Through The Night

Side B
Fools Rush In (Where Angels Fear To Tread)
Until It's Time For You To Go
I'm Leavin'
Put Your Hand In The Hand
It's Only Love
It's Still Here

[strutmut]

I'm Leavin' Take 1 new mix!!! GREAT SOUND!!!!! YEAHHHH!!!!

[eric c]

one of my favorites from these sessions.
a brilliant recording from the equally brilliant he touched me.

[emjel]

this box set makes me think about what should've been Elvis Now:
•help me make it through the night
•i'm leavin'
•it's only love
•the first time ever i saw your face
•until its time for you to go
•we can make the morning
•early mornin' rain
•thats what you get for lovin' me
•fools rush in
•don't think twice,its alright
•its still here
•i'll take you home again kathleen
•i will be true

13 tracks...i removed rosary,hey jude,hand in the hand,sylvia and 10,000yrs ago.

i put sylvia on the love letters album.

i add miracle of the rosary and put your hand in the hand on the wonderful world of christmas.

i don't know if this line up would've changed anything but i think its a better album.

i'm sure yall have done the same...love to hear your line-ups of what should've been.

There’s no way RCA would have out out a 13 track album. And you have effectively cancelled the Fool album by removing 50% of the tracks from it.

no.
not canceled.
the fool album gets made up of the 7 studio cuts from '72 and the live vegas tracks.
•fool
•where do i go from here
•for the good times
•it's impossible
•it's over
•seperate ways
•always on my mind
•burning love
•its a matter of time
•never been to spain
•you gave me a mountain
•an american trilogy
•impossible dream

a much better album in my opinion.
and some of the elements were already in place.

Once again, RCA would not release a 13 track album without getting hit with additional costs. And you’ve cut into a couple of Camden albums too which were far more successful than Elvis’ regular studio albums. We know in hindsight what would have made better albums, although I have never been convinced that a studio album mixed with "live" tracks works very well, but the "live" songs you now want to add on to the Fool album would not have been a consideration for RCA as those songs had already been on either MSG and Aloha or both.

Bottom line here is that as much as you want to re-hash Elvis albums to make them appear better, had Elvis knuckled down and recorded more and better songs in the studio during this time, we would have had better albums instead of the hotch potch releases we got via Now and Fool.

heaven forbid we tamper with the camden releases.
regardless of their success...great songs like burning love,seperate ways and always on my mind should not have been on budget albums surrounded by movie fluff.
they belonged on the fool album.
and i think thats the way it is proved how an album with studio cuts and live tracks could work...beautifully.
what ernst put together on standing room only...13 tracks i might add...proves it as well and that should've been the fool album back then.

Yes I agree and I can remember back in ‘72 when those Camden's came out that we were surprised. But we were then, like you are now, seeing things from a fans perspective and not necessarily as a business. It is irrelevant that Burning Love was surrounded with movie fluff - that album still sold very well because it was a budget album that many people were happy to spend under a couple of dollars on. It went on to sell enough copies to get a double platinum award and a lot more copies than regular studio releases.

Liking an album with Studio cuts and "live’ recordings is a subjective thing…I didn’t particularly like so much, the TTWII album because of that - I would have much preferred studio recordings of I Just Can’t Help Believing and You’ve Lost that Loving Feeling. In fact I would have preferred a double album - one LP with a "live" show and one LP with studio recordings - for me, the release with the film tie in warranted that and I can remember at the time wondering whether RCA would do a release similar to Memphis to Vegas/Vegas to Memphis.

Regarding the 13 tracks you refer to that Ernst put together for the SRO release, things had changed with the arrival of Compact Disc and he put together an album for the collectors label that he envisaged may have come out. By that time, record companies did not have to pay more for an album that had more than 10 tracks on it. But basically, what Ernst produced was almost like a TTWII Vol 2 but in a different period.

And Ernst also followed up with the "should have been" releases when FTD released the albums under the Classic Album series with additional tracks c

As I wrote, the problem with Elvis’ releases at that time were that RCA were struggling to put decent albums out simply because their number one star was not interested in getting into the studio to record better material for better albums. After the big success of Aloha, Elvis should have been on a high to follow it up with the recording of a stellar album but he didn’t….the only high he was on was via pills as soon as the show was over which meant that the resultant album when it was released 5 months later was a complete flop by the standard of the previous release. I’m sure that had Burning Love been on the Fool album, sales would have been better, but I’m not convinced it would have matched the Camden release as by then, the song was nearly a year old and had of course been on the Aloha album.

But we are where we are, and the market is simply not big enough to start doing revised copies of those original albums under the Legacy Double album sets. That’s why Sony have to do these little boxsets to stimulate interest and if the previous release didn’t exactly fly off the shelves, then I am not holding out a great deal of hope that this forthcoming one will better it or even match it.

[eric c]

another favorite.
gospel was the center of his musical soul.
always brought out his best.

[Troubleman]

You guys are amusing. Some of you make it sound like you are forced to get this set.

Crazy-ass Elvis fans.

The word 'fan' is short for 'fanatic', so of course we'll have to get this!

Just like you will eventually get the FTD 'This is Elvis'. I know you said you won't, but eventually it will be the only one not in your collection, so you'll cave. You know deep down you'll get it, in spite of yourself not wanting to.

[eric c]

can't help it.
have to.
its brilliant.
his gospel cuts are a mirror into his musical soul.
what gets reflected back to us...all these years later...thru the music is worth looking at.
a glimpse of who he truly was.

[elvisjock]

How did these items end up in [private hands, were they from one of Aunt Delta's garage sales?

I'm Leavin' Take 1 new mix!!! GREAT SOUND!!!!! YEAHHHH!!!!

Love the Imperials high in the mix towards the end.

[Rob]

You guys are amusing. Some of you make it sound like you are forced to get this set.

Crazy-ass Elvis fans.

The word 'fan' is short for 'fanatic', so of course we'll have to get this!

Just like you will eventually get the FTD 'This is Elvis'. I know you said you won't, but eventually it will be the only one not in your collection, so you'll cave. You know deep down you'll get it, in spite of yourself not wanting to.

I may get this set, but that other thing you mentioned?

Nope.

[Buddy]

Good sound, but if you listen since about 45 years to his (overdubbed) masters as released on the records, you automatically "miss something" while listening to his undubbed outtakes. You really "hear" or at least recognize that Elvis AND the band left space during the recording for the overdubs, so the outtakes sound naked, not ready at all to release....This Is not the case with his 50s and 60s outtakes. But from 1969 (Memphis Session) till Jungle Room 76 it is. Of course it is nice to follow his work from Take 1 to the final overdubbed master, but after that I am doing that mostly not again.
I wished Sony would invest the money and time into the REMIX of all his masters so that we could hear them as modern, clean and sound-upgraded as they deliver now the outtakes on these new box-sets. But they dont. A pitty IMO

[jeanno]

And hopefully -- finally -- we will have the absolute ultimate release of the unedited master of "Merry Christmas Baby".

And everything else is just the cherry on top of the sundae.

Exactly.

[Sebastian E]

Unless I missed something when cross-referencing the track listing with Keith Flynn's site, the following tracks are previously unreleased:

Are You Lonesome Tonight
He Touched Me Take 1
An Evening Prayer Take 1

The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face (Take 11 - 12)

Isn't this new as well? We didn't get take 11 on the "Now" FTD. Just the master.

The Are You Lonesome Tonight fragment was featured on the FTD NOW album as a pre intro to Fools Rush In Take 10.
So not really new as such.

If its the same version.. i wouldnt see why they would split it into its own track..

I just saw that the running time of AYLT on the new set is only 17 seconds. Therefore, it's safe to assume that it's the same fragment as on the FTD. Too bad.

[Troubleman]

I kinda wish they would have put at least one of the duets of 'First time' instead of takes 11-12.

Also, did anybody notice the fact that they put "Put your hand in the hand' on CD 2 - The Religious Sides, but not on CD 4 - The Religious Outtakes? It's on CD 3 with the 'Pop side' outtakes?

[sweetangeline]

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[Rich_TCB]

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What turned out to be Elvis Presley’s final Nashville session brought music that was originally overlooked. The original recordings found their way on the holiday themed Elvis Sings the Wonderful World of Christmas (1971), the gospel He Touched Me (1972), Elvis Now (1972) and Elvis (1973). Yet, to hear this music, a half century after it was recorded – now wiped of overdubs – reveals some of the most compelling singing of Presley’s career. There may not be a better set of tracks in his catalog that benefits more from un-dubbing the masters. No longer weighted down, Elvis shines. Available on 4 CD’s.

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[LSP-4445]

I kinda wish they would have put at least one of the duets of 'First time' instead of takes 11-12.

I`m happy that they dont do that....imo the duets are simply awful.
Only downside here is the 3 months waiting time.

[Z0S0]

Once again, RCA would not release a 13 track album without getting hit with additional costs. And you’ve cut into a couple of Camden albums too which were far more successful than Elvis’ regular studio albums. We know in hindsight what would have made better albums, although I have never been convinced that a studio album mixed with "live" tracks works very well, but the "live" songs you now want to add on to the Fool album would not have been a consideration for RCA as those songs had already been on either MSG and Aloha or both.

Bottom line here is that as much as you want to re-hash Elvis albums to make them appear better, had Elvis knuckled down and recorded more and better songs in the studio during this time, we would have had better albums instead of the hotch potch releases we got via Now and Fool.

Very well said Emjel and i agree 100% !

They did what they did which in hindsight was rather piss poor & quite laughable at times but its all a part of his history now !!

ultimately the buck stops at Elvis - i find it so hard to comprehend that A man who could strive for and deliver perfection could then care so little about his catalogue and legacy that he left the creation of his albums to felton/joan deary etc and the artwork to parker who was as artistic and creative as i am a whizz with the FTSE100 !

The problem never was the material - (ok 'SOME' of the material) and in general it wasnt his performance/singing - after Chips he would never be as passionate, professional and into recording ever again, The problem was grabbing hold of and using anything and EVERY single song regardless of the quality of it (This is our dance, padre etc etc) and the crap they put together as an album .

Its amazing to me that a man who was lost in the wilderness of the movie years cutting crap like
" old mcdonald" / "clambake" etc etc could make such a stunning comeback, reverse his image & reclaim his crown and then deliver some of his best recordings ever with Chips -
...would then be cutting crap like the above mentioned titles only one & two years later ??

The worse thing is it seems like felton, parker, RCA - none of them learned a damn thing from all the movie years & poor charting albums & singles, they fell straight back into the same old pattern and Elvis had no respect for his craft, it was lets cut whatever crap is available and run off with the cheque laughing to the bank !

Elvis would have learned a hell of a lot if he had sat down with Peter grant, Jimmy Page and Ahmet ertegun and been schooled in the art of putting out your best work and preserving your legacy - though i suspect it would have gone in 1 ear & out the other!

we can all look at the material spread over these TWO sets and the relevant Ftds and see enough quality cuts to put together albums good enough to stand toe to toe with "From Elvis In Memphis" but they couldnt do that, they had to throw three albums together every time ...

" country " is fantastic - " TTWii is pretty much excellent though it should have been a purely live soundtrack album & then a new studio album, not a silly mix of both ! As far as im concerned all the great work he did in 68 & 69 was all but wiped out the minute " Love Letters" appeared on the market and then they cemented that very low bar by putting out " NOW " what a mess ...

Theres no wonder the public at large and hardcore fans all but gave up on the singles AND albums - every one of them looked like another generic LIVE album even when it wasnt !

It speaks volumes that RCA/Sony/Ftd etc have spent the past 40 odd years trying to rectify the shambles they all made back then - though ironically quite a few of the same mistakes have been repeated but the Elvis catalogue is certainly stronger now than it was in his lifetime!

* apologies for the length of this post.

[DEH]

Elvis was not a "album artist". He didn't think of albums that way. He didn't look at albums the way Led Zeppelin or Jimi Hendrix did. He didn't pose for album covers after the movie years. Not his thing.

[The Swamp Fox]

when it comes to the broader social context (apart from elvis), i´m undecided.
i think one has to examine each and every case individually and precisely, before a decision is made.
i´m no fan to change older books, because, for example, the "n-word" was used (only because we don´t use it anymore). trying to change history that way feels wrong to me.
i feel different when it comes to changing street names or removing monuments, because an historical character is seen in another light today. in germany we have some talk about this, often referring to streets or places, which were named after persons, who helped or enabled hitler or played a shady part in the nazi regime. of course, i´m all for it to remove those honors.

all this is a very complex issue, so i´ll leave it at that.
also learned something new today, which is the acronym "ymmv" (just looked it up).


It is indeed complex, too complex for common sense to prevail. Take care , Christopher.

[The Swamp Fox]

i hope there will be some candid studio talk included in the outtakes.
listening to studio sessions, it´s only half the fun without it for me.
the more the better and uncensored please, no need for today´s "political correctness" when it comes to historical recordings.

A more nuanced understanding of what kind of language may be hurtful or offensive is a sign human beings are trying to become more decent.

Kind of like how the U.S. used to mandate separate water fountains and hotels and restaurants for people with dark skin.

Good people learn from their mistakes or, as you put it, by becoming more "politically correct."

I don’t think his comment warranted a history lesson about the past.

Thanks for sharing that. Obviously, I don't agree.

Now, back to the overhead press.

You know what they say about a-holes and opinions….”Everyone has one.” And that is a two way street that I fully appreciate. Back to E!

[The Swamp Fox]

Quoting Christopher:
when it comes to the broader social context (apart from elvis), i´m undecided.
i think one has to examine each and every case individually and precisely, before a decision is made.
i´m no fan to change older books, because, for example, the "n-word" was used (only because we don´t use it anymore). trying to change history that way feels wrong to me.
i feel different when it comes to changing street names or removing monuments, because an historical character is seen in another light today. in germany we have some talk about this, often referring to streets or places, which were named after persons, who helped or enabled hitler or played a shady part in the nazi regime. of course, i´m all for it to remove those honors.

all this is a very complex issue, so i´ll leave it at that.
also learned something new today, which is the acronym "ymmv" (just looked it up).


It is indeed complex, too complex for common sense to prevail. Take care , Christopher.