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Elvis Shop London sent the latest releases out yesterday WITH the replacement disc. you know it makes sense



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Anyone heard whether ShopElvis has gotten replacement disc news? I've asked them again about it but haven't heard back yet.


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where was the problem with the EIB CD?
Because I also had ordered it but so far haven't ordered the replacement disc.


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merry77 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:49 am
where was the problem with the EIB CD?
Because I also had ordered it but so far haven't ordered the replacement disc.
There was a glitch near the end on the unedited master take of soldier boy.


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I got my copy of the shows (and the EIB disc), can Eliasson remaster the LA show? The splice on disc one is probably the cleanest I've heard from FTD and the sound is miles better than the LA show.

Disc 2 seems to be 1.5% too slow, if someone could double check that would be great.
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Just received my copy of the new FTD disc and replacement for the faulty Elvis Is Back disc. Big thanks to Chris Giles at The Elvis Shop.



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Yes Chris let me know my copy is on its way to me- like your comments about disc 1 but disc 2 running so slow?


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Elvis2000 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:13 pm
The Fresno part of disc one is slow and disc two is also slow, all by 1.5%.
Oh no..glitches, cut/edited shows, slow running CDs... no end control at FTD. Really a mess...



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That's unfortunate and it shouldn't have happened. BUT there are ways to fix it.

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Buddy wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:56 pm
Elvis2000 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:13 pm
The Fresno part of disc one is slow and disc two is also slow, all by 1.5%.
Oh no..glitches, cut/edited shows, slow running CDs... no end control at FTD. Really a mess...
The editing isn't an issue when its done well, but splicing two shows that are running at different speeds is not right.

It's still a great listen if you can look past this issue.



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I like both shows very much, good solid performances.
Does anyone know if the Fresno performance from disc one can be heard in complete form?
As cdr, audiencerecoding.


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JohanD wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:18 pm
I like both shows very much, good solid performances.
Does anyone know if the Fresno performance from disc one can be heard in complete form?
As cdr, audiencerecoding.
So far this is the only recording available of the Fresno tape.



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How can you tell they are slow?



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Can anyone post samplers?


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chop983 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:33 pm
How can you tell they are slow?
Compared with the Memphis show.



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I think most notable example is the Fort Worth show. This one runs to slow and you can hear it. But is there a technical way to explore the difference in speed? I mean to compare it with another show by ear is not that confincing. Maybe they played it a tone lowe.

So when you play this new cd can one notice by ear that Elvis sounds too slow? I don't have the new set yet. I first want to know if they did a good job on the mastering. If it's not worth buying i stick to my other 20+ 1974 shows.


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philobeddo wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:13 pm
I think most notable example is the Fort Worth show. This one runs to slow and you can hear it. But is there a technical way to explore the difference in speed? I mean to compare it with another show by ear is not that confincing. Maybe they played it a tone lowe.

So when you play this new cd can one notice by ear that Elvis sounds too slow? I don't have the new set yet. I first want to know if they did a good job on the mastering. If it's not worth buying i stick to my other 20+ 1974 shows.
Disc one sounds very good, it's bass heavy but it's bright, disc two is the same but slightly duller. I haven't heard either all the way through, I'm half way on disc one and it's a solid show for an afternoon performance.



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Elvis2000 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:47 pm
chop983 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:33 pm
How can you tell they are slow?
Compared with the Memphis show.
Is that really an accurate measure to judge the correct speed of a given show, though? To assume that Elvis and the band always consistently performed at 100% the same speed? I think the precise speed varied a bit, a few % points, on different afternoons and nights, based on Elvis' mood and energy and other things.



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Kullervo wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:47 pm
Elvis2000 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:47 pm
chop983 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:33 pm
How can you tell they are slow?
Compared with the Memphis show.
Is that really an accurate measure to judge the correct speed of a given show, though? To assume that Elvis and the band always consistently performed at 100% the same speed? I think the precise speed varied a bit, a few % points, on different afternoons and nights, based on Elvis' mood and energy and other things.
James' guitar is the give away. They may play at different speeds from show to show, but there is no way they'd out of key every show.



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The San Bernardino show begins with the opening of Help Me on disc one, I say this because from Help Me onwards the everything seems to be fine when it comes to the pitch/speed/key, oh and the tape noise is a give away.
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philobeddo wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:13 pm
I think most notable example is the Fort Worth show. This one runs to slow and you can hear it. But is there a technical way to explore the difference in speed? I mean to compare it with another show by ear is not that confincing. Maybe they played it a tone lowe.

So when you play this new cd can one notice by ear that Elvis sounds too slow? I don't have the new set yet. I first want to know if they did a good job on the mastering. If it's not worth buying i stick to my other 20+ 1974 shows.
A performer doesn't switch the keys from night to night. The best way is to shove it through some some software that will give the chance to see exactly what the pitch is.


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Elvis2000 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:53 pm
Kullervo wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:47 pm
Elvis2000 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:47 pm
chop983 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:33 pm
How can you tell they are slow?
Compared with the Memphis show.
Is that really an accurate measure to judge the correct speed of a given show, though? To assume that Elvis and the band always consistently performed at 100% the same speed? I think the precise speed varied a bit, a few % points, on different afternoons and nights, based on Elvis' mood and energy and other things.
James' guitar is the give away. They may play at different speeds from show to show, but there is no way they'd out of key every show.
Exactly. All you have to do is listen for the low E string on James guitar. You can then adjust the speed to get the right pitch. The incorrect pitch of several FTD shows definitely makes me less inclined to listen to them.


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