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Re: Any love for "Kismet"?

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I like it.




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The songs from those mid sixties soundtracks were poor for the most part, and it was a waste that Elvis was stuck doing so many of them, knowing what he was capable of. Having said that, there were still a few gems in the midst of all the garbage.




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Lover Doll wrote:The songs from those mid sixties soundtracks were poor for the most part, and it was a waste that Elvis was stuck doing so many of them, knowing what he was capable of. Having said that, there were still a few gems in the midst of all the garbage.
Yes, there are some ok songs amongst the garbage, the odd pretty ballad here and there, but i'm not blind that they are still mediocre material compared to what he was capable of.



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If I have to choose only one song recorded by Elvis in 1965 this is the beautiful ballad "Please Don't Stop Loving Me".



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jetblack wrote:
I tried but alas this one is a lost cause.

Some will never see other's opinions and always have to be right - I'll leave you with your rhetoric.

Andy

It's the fixed mindset he has, which we - with our growth mindset - just can't seem to grasp. See also this topic:

http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=93045&p=1490213#p1490137

A lost cause indeed.

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MikeFromHolland wrote:
jetblack wrote:
I tried but alas this one is a lost cause.

Some will never see other's opinions and always have to be right - I'll leave you with your rhetoric.

Andy

It's the fixed mindset he has, which we - with our growth mindset - just can't seem to grasp.
See also this topic:

http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=93045&p=1490213#p1490137

A lost cause indeed.

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I say that sentence in red says it all Mike.

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MikeFromHolland wrote:
jetblack wrote:
I tried but alas this one is a lost cause.

Some will never see other's opinions and always have to be right - I'll leave you with your rhetoric.

Andy

It's the fixed mindset he has, which we - with our growth mindset - just can't seem to grasp. See also this topic:

http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=93045&p=1490213#p1490137

A lost cause indeed.

:cry:

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Actually Mike, I don't have a fixed mindset, I speak in reality terms, something some people can't grasp on this board.

You can continue putting me down, I don't give a sh*t, but you, and others, are wrong about me.




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Davelee wrote:the fact that the song is crap.
If some is a fact. then you should be able to prove it in some way.

Do so.



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Hi there!! :D :D :D.
jurasic1968 wrote:If I have to choose only one song recorded by Elvis in 1965 this is the beautiful ballad "Please Don't Stop Loving Me".
Sand Castle is another 1965 beautiful ballad too! :smt020. Bye for now :smt006.

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Davelee wrote: You can continue putting me down.
Not my intention. Some of us just try to understand your deviant behavior that's all.

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MikeFromHolland wrote:
Davelee wrote: You can continue putting me down.
Not my intention. Some of us just try to understand your deviant behavior that's all.

:wink:

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You will never do it because you, and others, only have one mindset. :lol:




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poormadpeter2 wrote:
Davelee wrote:the fact that the song is crap.
If some is a fact. then you should be able to prove it in some way.

Do so.
Just one listen to the song has all the answers you need.

Hey, there is a YouTube video for the song posted by the OP at the beginning of this thread. Take a listen.




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Davelee wrote:
poormadpeter2 wrote:
Davelee wrote:the fact that the song is crap.
If some is a fact. then you should be able to prove it in some way.

Do so.
Just one listen to the song has all the answers you need.

Hey, there is a YouTube video for the song posted by the OP at the beginning of this thread. Take a listen.
Listening to the song doesn't make it a fact. You stated it was a fact.

So prove it. Or at least tell us your reasoning.




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poormadpeter2 wrote:
Davelee wrote:
poormadpeter2 wrote:
Davelee wrote:the fact that the song is crap.
If some is a fact. then you should be able to prove it in some way.

Do so.
Just one listen to the song has all the answers you need.

Hey, there is a YouTube video for the song posted by the OP at the beginning of this thread. Take a listen.
Listening to the song doesn't make it a fact. You stated it was a fact.

So prove it. Or at least tell us your reasoning.
Your first comment on page 1 of this thread was: "Kismet, sadly, is as memorable as most elevator music. Most of Tepper and Bennett's work for Elvis, with few exceptions, was hack work".

Judging by your comment, I guess you think "Kismet" is rubbish.



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I enjoy Kismet... Elvis does a nice job with it and the music is pleasant. It's a tiny beacon of light in a rather dark time soundtrack music-wise for Elvis. Nothing more, nothing less.




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Davelee wrote:
poormadpeter2 wrote:
Davelee wrote:
poormadpeter2 wrote:
Davelee wrote:the fact that the song is crap.
If some is a fact. then you should be able to prove it in some way.

Do so.
Just one listen to the song has all the answers you need.

Hey, there is a YouTube video for the song posted by the OP at the beginning of this thread. Take a listen.
Listening to the song doesn't make it a fact. You stated it was a fact.

So prove it. Or at least tell us your reasoning.
Your first comment on page 1 of this thread was: "Kismet, sadly, is as memorable as most elevator music. Most of Tepper and Bennett's work for Elvis, with few exceptions, was hack work".

Judging by your comment, I guess you think "Kismet" is rubbish.
I do. But I said it as an opinion, not as a fact.

YOU said it as a fact.

I'm asking you, for the third time, to either prove it or give your reasoning as to how what you say about the song is a fact. You have been commenting for the last week on people's intelligence. Can it be that you don't know the difference between "opinion" and "fact?"




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jurasic1968 wrote:If I have to choose only one song recorded by Elvis in 1965 this is the beautiful ballad "Please Don't Stop Loving Me".
It's all about opinions and taste. Never been fond of that song.




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poormadpeter2 wrote:
Davelee wrote:
poormadpeter2 wrote:
Davelee wrote:
poormadpeter2 wrote:
Davelee wrote:the fact that the song is crap.
If some is a fact. then you should be able to prove it in some way.

Do so.
Just one listen to the song has all the answers you need.

Hey, there is a YouTube video for the song posted by the OP at the beginning of this thread. Take a listen.
Listening to the song doesn't make it a fact. You stated it was a fact.

So prove it. Or at least tell us your reasoning.
Your first comment on page 1 of this thread was: "Kismet, sadly, is as memorable as most elevator music. Most of Tepper and Bennett's work for Elvis, with few exceptions, was hack work".

Judging by your comment, I guess you think "Kismet" is rubbish.
I do. But I said it as an opinion, not as a fact.

YOU said it as a fact.

I'm asking you, for the third time, to either prove it or give your reasoning as to how what you say about the song is a fact. You have been commenting for the last week on people's intelligence. Can it be that you don't know the difference between "opinion" and "fact?"
1: Is Kismet a classic Elvis song? No
2: Is Kismet included in greatest Elvis achievements? No
3: Is Kismet widely known outside the Elvis world? No
4: Is Kismet a classic piece of songwriting? No
5. Is Kismet ever played on the radio by popular demand? No
6: Is Kismet going to be most remembered in years to come? No (only by EP fans who like it)
7: Is Kismet going to be highlighted in future documentaries? No (except maybe to talk about EPs lowest career period)
8: Is Kismet going to be released in 2016 and smash the teenage market today? Doubtful.

With all this it's fairly safe to say that there is evidence this song is rubbish. :lol:

Let me ask you a question: You think Kismet is rubbish why?
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Davelee wrote: 1: Is Kismet a classic Elvis song? No
2: Is Kismet included in greatest Elvis achievements? No
3: Is Kismet widely known outside the Elvis world? No
4: Is Kismet a classic piece of songwriting? No
5. Is Kismet ever played on the radio by popular demand? No
6: Is Kismet going to be most remembered in years to come? No (only by EP fans who like it)
7: Is Kismet going to be highlighted in future documentaries? No (except maybe to talk about EPs lowest career period)
8: Is Kismet going to be released in 2016 and smash the teenage market today? Doubtful.

With all this it's fairly safe to say that there is evidence this song is rubbish. :lol:

If that list makes up a fact, than >90% of Elvis' legacy is rubbish.

And Bonny and Clyde loved the law :D

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MikeFromHolland wrote:
Davelee wrote: 1: Is Kismet a classic Elvis song? No
2: Is Kismet included in greatest Elvis achievements? No
3: Is Kismet widely known outside the Elvis world? No
4: Is Kismet a classic piece of songwriting? No
5. Is Kismet ever played on the radio by popular demand? No
6: Is Kismet going to be most remembered in years to come? No (only by EP fans who like it)
7: Is Kismet going to be highlighted in future documentaries? No (except maybe to talk about EPs lowest career period)
8: Is Kismet going to be released in 2016 and smash the teenage market today? Doubtful.

With all this it's fairly safe to say that there is evidence this song is rubbish. :lol:

If that list makes up a fact, than >90% of Elvis' legacy is rubbish.

And Bonny and Clyde loved the law :D

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50% I would say. half and half - 50% good and 50% bad.



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Davelee wrote:
MikeFromHolland wrote:
Davelee wrote: 1: Is Kismet a classic Elvis song? No
2: Is Kismet included in greatest Elvis achievements? No
3: Is Kismet widely known outside the Elvis world? No
4: Is Kismet a classic piece of songwriting? No
5. Is Kismet ever played on the radio by popular demand? No
6: Is Kismet going to be most remembered in years to come? No (only by EP fans who like it)
7: Is Kismet going to be highlighted in future documentaries? No (except maybe to talk about EPs lowest career period)
8: Is Kismet going to be released in 2016 and smash the teenage market today? Doubtful.

With all this it's fairly safe to say that there is evidence this song is rubbish. :lol:

If that list makes up a fact, than >90% of Elvis' legacy is rubbish.

And Bonny and Clyde loved the law :D

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50% I would say. half and half - 50% good and 50% bad.
Not according to your list, sir.

So next time you'll need to make a better one to convince us with your fabricated "facts". :D

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Hi there!! :D :D :D.
Davelee wrote:
MikeFromHolland wrote:
Davelee wrote: 1: Is Kismet a classic Elvis song? No
2: Is Kismet included in greatest Elvis achievements? No
3: Is Kismet widely known outside the Elvis world? No
4: Is Kismet a classic piece of songwriting? No
5. Is Kismet ever played on the radio by popular demand? No
6: Is Kismet going to be most remembered in years to come? No (only by EP fans who like it)
7: Is Kismet going to be highlighted in future documentaries? No (except maybe to talk about EPs lowest career period)
8: Is Kismet going to be released in 2016 and smash the teenage market today? Doubtful.

With all this it's fairly safe to say that there is evidence this song is rubbish. :lol:

If that list makes up a fact, than >90% of Elvis' legacy is rubbish.

And Bonny and Clyde loved the law :D

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50% I would say. half and half - 50% good and 50% bad.
If you think that only 50% of what Elvis did was good :shock:. What did make you to spend so much time on FECC? :roll:. Bye for now :smt006.


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MikeFromHolland wrote:
Davelee wrote:
MikeFromHolland wrote:
Davelee wrote: 1: Is Kismet a classic Elvis song? No
2: Is Kismet included in greatest Elvis achievements? No
3: Is Kismet widely known outside the Elvis world? No
4: Is Kismet a classic piece of songwriting? No
5. Is Kismet ever played on the radio by popular demand? No
6: Is Kismet going to be most remembered in years to come? No (only by EP fans who like it)
7: Is Kismet going to be highlighted in future documentaries? No (except maybe to talk about EPs lowest career period)
8: Is Kismet going to be released in 2016 and smash the teenage market today? Doubtful.

With all this it's fairly safe to say that there is evidence this song is rubbish. :lol:

If that list makes up a fact, than >90% of Elvis' legacy is rubbish.

And Bonny and Clyde loved the law :D

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50% I would say. half and half - 50% good and 50% bad.
Not according to your list, sir.

So next time you'll need to make a better one to convince us with your fabricated "facts". :D

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I'm talking about one song here, doh :facep: not his whole catelogue or legacy. :roll: so, so your 90% estimation is drivel.




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Mike Windgren wrote:Hi there!! :D :D :D.
Davelee wrote:
MikeFromHolland wrote:
Davelee wrote: 1: Is Kismet a classic Elvis song? No
2: Is Kismet included in greatest Elvis achievements? No
3: Is Kismet widely known outside the Elvis world? No
4: Is Kismet a classic piece of songwriting? No
5. Is Kismet ever played on the radio by popular demand? No
6: Is Kismet going to be most remembered in years to come? No (only by EP fans who like it)
7: Is Kismet going to be highlighted in future documentaries? No (except maybe to talk about EPs lowest career period)
8: Is Kismet going to be released in 2016 and smash the teenage market today? Doubtful.

With all this it's fairly safe to say that there is evidence this song is rubbish. :lol:

If that list makes up a fact, than >90% of Elvis' legacy is rubbish.

And Bonny and Clyde loved the law :D

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50% I would say. half and half - 50% good and 50% bad.
If you think that only 50% of what Elvis did was good :shock:. What did make you to spend so much time on FECC? :roll:. Bye for now :smt006.
Because i'm a big Elvis fan and his good stuff outweighs the bad. In fact, his best recordings (54 - 62/68/69/) are the top of any music genre imo.



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Davelee wrote:
MikeFromHolland wrote:
Davelee wrote:
MikeFromHolland wrote:
Davelee wrote: 1: Is Kismet a classic Elvis song? No
2: Is Kismet included in greatest Elvis achievements? No
3: Is Kismet widely known outside the Elvis world? No
4: Is Kismet a classic piece of songwriting? No
5. Is Kismet ever played on the radio by popular demand? No
6: Is Kismet going to be most remembered in years to come? No (only by EP fans who like it)
7: Is Kismet going to be highlighted in future documentaries? No (except maybe to talk about EPs lowest career period)
8: Is Kismet going to be released in 2016 and smash the teenage market today? Doubtful.

With all this it's fairly safe to say that there is evidence this song is rubbish. :lol:

If that list makes up a fact, than >90% of Elvis' legacy is rubbish.

And Bonny and Clyde loved the law :D

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50% I would say. half and half - 50% good and 50% bad.
Not according to your list, sir.

So next time you'll need to make a better one to convince us with your fabricated "facts". :D

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I'm talking about one song here, doh :facep: not his whole catelogue or legacy. :roll: so, so your 90% estimation is drivel.

I see, it was a bit complicated. I'll try on your level:

1. Take your list.
2. Remove "Kismet" on EVERY line.
3. Replace "Kismet" on EVERY line with any other Elvis song.
4. Put that name of the Elvis song exactly on the spot where you erased "Kismet"
5. Check your list for any mistakes
6. Correct your mistakes
7. Now answer ALL questions from your list
8. See if the outcome tells you if the song is rubbish yes/no

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