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What's the point to have bought the FTD set at such a high price when Sony release the same set, with the additional blu-ray, at a better price? It is very cynical, to say the least. in 20I really feel ripped off by the FTD team.To sum up, we were really taken for idiots here.
In my opinion it was a startegic move on FTD to release the Aloha From Hawaii set in 2022, they just knew that a SONY 2023 release was coming soon after.... We have been asking for Madison Square Garden & Aloha From Hawaii FTD releases for many years to complete our collections, no we have them . Bye for now .
I’m not sure “strategic move” are the words I would use especially as Ernst has advocated in the past that he would not release or approve of album releases whereby fans would have to buy a new album just to get one or two new things.
That was many years ago, he even told me that in Memphis back in 2011. It all changed when he decided to release all those complete session sets… . Bye for now .
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What's the point to have bought the FTD set at such a high price when Sony release the same set, with the additional blu-ray, at a better price? It is very cynical, to say the least. in 20I really feel ripped off by the FTD team.To sum up, we were really taken for idiots here.
In my opinion it was a startegic move on FTD to release the Aloha From Hawaii set in 2022, they just knew that a SONY 2023 release was coming soon after.... We have been asking for Madison Square Garden & Aloha From Hawaii FTD releases for many years to complete our collections, no we have them . Bye for now .
I’m not sure “strategic move” are the words I would use especially as Ernst has advocated in the past that he would not release or approve of album releases whereby fans would have to buy a new album just to get one or two new things.
That was many years ago, he even told me that in Memphis back in 2011. It all changed when he decided to release all those complete session sets… . Bye for now .
Oh I agree, but it’s a shame that he has now down that route. Perhaps someone could ask him that in Memphis this year.
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At this stage of my life, with space problems at home with the ever growing music collection, if the video quality is at least the same or slightly better than the old video release and has improved audio, I´ll be pleased. I´ll have a former old 2 dvd set in just one Bluray disc! . The old dvd set will be a gift for a family member or sold on the on-line markets.
By the way, don´t know if the booklet in the new set will have some duplicate info or pictures, but the fact is that the former FTD release has 23 pages and the new SONY release will have 28 pages. The new liner notes will be done by a different music critic too, on FTD it was "Alan Hannson" and on SONY it will be a different person "Randy Lewis".
So there are some improvements on the SONY release compared to the FTD one. !6 euros wouldn´t do any harm at least in my pocket!. Bye for now .
P.S: The only regret I´ve with this new SONY set is that the two 1972 press conferences looks like it won´t be included.... , at the end I´ll have to decide to keep or not the old dvd set! .
Regarding the booklet photos it would be nice to have the recently found 1973 pic relaxing in the hotel garden included —nice candid , a fan had it in an envelope for years....
Regarding the booklet photos it would be nice to have the recently found 1973 pic relaxing in the hotel garden included —nice candid , a fan had it in an envelope for years....
What's that photo, please? You got a link?
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Regarding the booklet photos it would be nice to have the recently found 1973 pic relaxing in the hotel garden included —nice candid , a fan had it in an envelope for years....
What's that photo, please? You got a link?
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Whatever the case, FTD charged us some money for 3 cds for a 49th Ann release and now Sony is charging less for a proper 50th Ann. Release and including a blue ray. Those are the facts. Go ahead and judge them.
Significantly less.
EUR 45+ for last year's FTD.
EUR 30 for the new Legacy release + Blu-Ray disc.
Yeah right...
Economies of scale don't justify that much of a difference. We're talking about cardboard and plastic here. Where the heck does all our money go?
Regarding the booklet photos it would be nice to have the recently found 1973 pic relaxing in the hotel garden included —nice candid , a fan had it in an envelope for years....
What's that photo, please? You got a link?
Its available via this link. Sorry not sure how to post the pic directly.
Regarding the booklet photos it would be nice to have the recently found 1973 pic relaxing in the hotel garden included —nice candid , a fan had it in an envelope for years....
What's that photo, please? You got a link?
Its available via this link. Sorry not sure how to post the pic directly.
Regarding the booklet photos it would be nice to have the recently found 1973 pic relaxing in the hotel garden included —nice candid , a fan had it in an envelope for years....
What's that photo, please? You got a link?
Its available via this link. Sorry not sure how to post the pic directly.
Why are members here so obsessive about how many people saw the show? So unimportant people, give it a break and find something enjoyable to do today.
If according to you, it is unimportant, then why do certain parties like Sony and EPE continue to push out such ridiculous stats. Perhaps some fans have a problem with that in the same way as some fans have a problem in Billboard missing out Elvis first early hits when Billboard compile their listings of artists who have the most number ones in the Hot 100.
Billboard has always acknowledged Elvis` hits from `56 to `58...usually as some sort of (subtitle) so Billboard really does know the truth deep down. Fact is going back to the 80`s and 90`s they were acknowledging it more than ever. I tell anyone today who inquires to just pick up one of Whitburns books for the real truth.
Yet some fans still complain and do not understand why the numbers cannot simply be brought together. Whatever way you want to look at it, some fans want facts to be correct as long as it elevates Elvis, but they are not so keen on the facts being presented when it goes the other way.
What seems to get lost in the discussion on viewership is that 1 TV doesn’t mean 1 viewer.
Very common in the early seventies, not as much as in the 1950’s and 60’s, was communal TV watching. (Particularly outside of North America).
I know that the night my family watched Aloha in April 1973, there was my family of 5 and two neighbors , totaling at least 9 people. If we were a Nielsen Ratings family we would have been counted as 1.
It seems most discussions don’t include what the average family size was in various countries at the time.
Did 1.5B watch? No. Did 1B? Likely not. But more than a couple of hundred million did when average family size is taken into account.
The press release doesn't say 1bn+ watched. It said it was beamed in 1bn+ TELEVISION SETS. There simply were not 1.5bn TV sets in existence in 1973 in the countries it was beamed to. So the whole notion of it reaching that many tv sets is absolute BS. It always was, and always will be. There are only 1.7bn TV sets NOW in the world, so I doubt that even 1bn existed worldwide in 1973, let alone in the part of the world that broadcast Aloha live.
I didn’t write anything about there being 1.5b TV sets then or now. I was talking about average family size not being taken into account by discussions regarding Aloha viewership.
So are you talking about the approximate 200 million who watched it live in the Pacific region when you write "more than a couple of hundred million did when average family size is taken into account".
I’m referring to the numbers that have been thrown about the last year or so on the board, most guessing the 200m range for total viewership, which I believe is much too low if average family size is taken into account.
Why are members here so obsessive about how many people saw the show? So unimportant people, give it a break and find something enjoyable to do today.
If according to you, it is unimportant, then why do certain parties like Sony and EPE continue to push out such ridiculous stats. Perhaps some fans have a problem with that in the same way as some fans have a problem in Billboard missing out Elvis first early hits when Billboard compile their listings of artists who have the most number ones in the Hot 100.
Billboard has always acknowledged Elvis` hits from `56 to `58...usually as some sort of (subtitle) so Billboard really does know the truth deep down. Fact is going back to the 80`s and 90`s they were acknowledging it more than ever. I tell anyone today who inquires to just pick up one of Whitburns books for the real truth.
Yet some fans still complain and do not understand why the numbers cannot simply be brought together. Whatever way you want to look at it, some fans want facts to be correct as long as it elevates Elvis, but they are not so keen on the facts being presented when it goes the other way.
What seems to get lost in the discussion on viewership is that 1 TV doesn’t mean 1 viewer.
Very common in the early seventies, not as much as in the 1950’s and 60’s, was communal TV watching. (Particularly outside of North America).
I know that the night my family watched Aloha in April 1973, there was my family of 5 and two neighbors , totaling at least 9 people. If we were a Nielsen Ratings family we would have been counted as 1.
It seems most discussions don’t include what the average family size was in various countries at the time.
Did 1.5B watch? No. Did 1B? Likely not. But more than a couple of hundred million did when average family size is taken into account.
The press release doesn't say 1bn+ watched. It said it was beamed in 1bn+ TELEVISION SETS. There simply were not 1.5bn TV sets in existence in 1973 in the countries it was beamed to. So the whole notion of it reaching that many tv sets is absolute BS. It always was, and always will be. There are only 1.7bn TV sets NOW in the world, so I doubt that even 1bn existed worldwide in 1973, let alone in the part of the world that broadcast Aloha live.
I didn’t write anything about there being 1.5b TV sets then or now. I was talking about average family size not being taken into account by discussions regarding Aloha viewership.
So are you talking about the approximate 200 million who watched it live in the Pacific region when you write "more than a couple of hundred million did when average family size is taken into account".
I’m referring to the numbers that have been thrown about the last year or so on the board, most guessing the 200m range for total viewership, which I believe is much too low if average family size is taken into account.
Yes 200m would be too low for a total and I cannot recall anyone actually writing that. As I wrote, I have seen that number associated with the live broadcast on the night for Asia and the Pacific region but not for the total number.
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to this day we still haven't seen the original live mix what went out on Jan 14th 1973 i'm not talking about the 90 mins which was shown in america I am talking about how the director cut the show on the night
The Closest we have is the Japanese which isn't complete sadly I still believe we should be seeing this as it's a part of history !
I pre-ordered the Aloha set. It came with a digital download.
I listened to a few select tracks from the rehearsal show and
I don't know the correct terminology here, but several of the
songs were corrupt.
Anyone else have this problem with the digital download?
I pre-ordered the Aloha set. It came with a digital download.
I listened to a few select tracks from the rehearsal show and
I don't know the correct terminology here, but several of the
songs were corrupt.
Anyone else have this problem with the digital download?
Did you order from Amazon?
I noticed on Amazon (I have Prime) that if I click on the "streaming" tab it takes me to the page where I can listen to all the tracks. BUT I don't think it's the new mix by Matt Ross Spang. It sounds like the OLD mix. I think they've linked the old mix (Legacy Edition) to this new release.
Usually with Amazon, you can go to the streaming link and see all the tracks but you can't play any of them until release day, except for the one or two they release ahead of time.
. Bye for now
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. The old dvd set will be a gift for a family member or sold on the on-line markets.
, at the end I´ll have to decide to keep or not the old dvd set! 
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