FTD 'On Tour' Deluxe Release Confirmed

[OnTourCam]

Yes recording every show multi track is and was expensive
But recording a show on cassette or reel to reel not so.

How much was a blank reel to reel tape back in 1972 ?

[pmp]

we didnt really need this thread, weve all seen the announcement and ON TOUR is now being discussed in at least 4 ongoing threads !

ONTOURCAM : anythings possible but they only recorded the FOUR shows we know off !
who knows why? aside from it being a costly process!

looking at a tape legend of hampton roads though it kind of insinuates that "cant help falling in love " & the closing vamp was caught by al pachucki from the AFTERNOON show
(testing the gear/levels i would assume!)

however, i could be completely wrong there and they may have just written out the tape legend backwards ??

Why record more than 4 shows? There was never a plan to release even a complete album of On Tour material, let alone a complete show. Sony had probably had their fingers burned in the summer of 1970 - half a dozen shows were recorded, and only four songs had been released from those hours or tapes.

fair point, its not really something i feel the need to debate especially as its pure speculation on our part anyway! you could be right, they had only recorded select songs & not whole shows in February a few months earlier and obviously the same 2 years before but then you could question why they recorded so many complete shows in vegas 69, which are almost identical!

you could also argue why did they follow/film the whole tour with an 11 camera crew when all they really needed was Hampton Roads !

why this? why that? i dont claim to know the answers and most of the time the logic wasnt there that we now have in hindsite either .

The 1969 shows have a more obvious reason - nobody at RCA knew how Elvis would perform or what Elvis would perform. As it was, they could have got an album from one night alone, but it appears clear that they were trying to get as many different songs recorded as possible, hence why Elvis tried out new stuff on the final night of recording.

The weird issue is the summer of 1970. Why record 6 full shows to release just four songs? When they were struggling to find material to find albums a few years later, why didn't Felton & Co go back to those shows and release a live album from them? It would have been a better option than some of the sub par efforts that came out after shoving ten leftovers together. There were songs recorded in August 1970 that hadn't been issued on a live album. They could even have supplemented the album with songs from February 1970, too (Don't Cry Daddy, Kentucky Rain etc), and even the previous August (Baby What You Want Me To Do, Reconsider Baby, Memories etc). It would have been a better option than Fool or Raised on Rock.

[Steve Morse]

Regardless of price, the books are just not user-friendly. Too big, too heavy, too expensive, taking-up too much storage room.

Although I have around 15 such Elvis books in my collection - including FTD and Lorentzen - I have barely read any, for the reasons stated. If I read a book, be it sitting in an armchair, or in bed, I want to be able to hold it comfortably in my hands.

[minkahed]

I completely agree with everything you relate here, except that I have a real soft spot for Raised on Rock.

I've always been with a contingent that I like/enjoy at least half an Elvis Presley album from the '70's and this one is no exception..

we didnt really need this thread, weve all seen the announcement and ON TOUR is now being discussed in at least 4 ongoing threads !

ONTOURCAM : anythings possible but they only recorded the FOUR shows we know off !
who knows why? aside from it being a costly process!

looking at a tape legend of hampton roads though it kind of insinuates that "cant help falling in love " & the closing vamp was caught by al pachucki from the AFTERNOON show
(testing the gear/levels i would assume!)

however, i could be completely wrong there and they may have just written out the tape legend backwards ??

Why record more than 4 shows? There was never a plan to release even a complete album of On Tour material, let alone a complete show. Sony had probably had their fingers burned in the summer of 1970 - half a dozen shows were recorded, and only four songs had been released from those hours or tapes.

fair point, its not really something i feel the need to debate especially as its pure speculation on our part anyway! you could be right, they had only recorded select songs & not whole shows in February a few months earlier and obviously the same 2 years before but then you could question why they recorded so many complete shows in vegas 69, which are almost identical!

you could also argue why did they follow/film the whole tour with an 11 camera crew when all they really needed was Hampton Roads !

why this? why that? i dont claim to know the answers and most of the time the logic wasnt there that we now have in hindsite either .

The 1969 shows have a more obvious reason - nobody at RCA knew how Elvis would perform or what Elvis would perform. As it was, they could have got an album from one night alone, but it appears clear that they were trying to get as many different songs recorded as possible, hence why Elvis tried out new stuff on the final night of recording.

The weird issue is the summer of 1970. Why record 6 full shows to release just four songs? When they were struggling to find material to find albums a few years later, why didn't Felton & Co go back to those shows and release a live album from them? It would have been a better option than some of the sub par efforts that came out after shoving ten leftovers together. There were songs recorded in August 1970 that hadn't been issued on a live album. They could even have supplemented the album with songs from February 1970, too (Don't Cry Daddy, Kentucky Rain etc), and even the previous August (Baby What You Want Me To Do, Reconsider Baby, Memories etc). It would have been a better option than Fool or Raised on Rock.

[pmp]

I completely agree with everything you relate here, except that I have a real soft spot for Raised on Rock.

I've always been with a contingent that I like/enjoy at least half an Elvis Presley album from the '70's and this one is no exception..

we didnt really need this thread, weve all seen the announcement and ON TOUR is now being discussed in at least 4 ongoing threads !

ONTOURCAM : anythings possible but they only recorded the FOUR shows we know off !
who knows why? aside from it being a costly process!

looking at a tape legend of hampton roads though it kind of insinuates that "cant help falling in love " & the closing vamp was caught by al pachucki from the AFTERNOON show
(testing the gear/levels i would assume!)

however, i could be completely wrong there and they may have just written out the tape legend backwards ??

Why record more than 4 shows? There was never a plan to release even a complete album of On Tour material, let alone a complete show. Sony had probably had their fingers burned in the summer of 1970 - half a dozen shows were recorded, and only four songs had been released from those hours or tapes.

fair point, its not really something i feel the need to debate especially as its pure speculation on our part anyway! you could be right, they had only recorded select songs & not whole shows in February a few months earlier and obviously the same 2 years before but then you could question why they recorded so many complete shows in vegas 69, which are almost identical!

you could also argue why did they follow/film the whole tour with an 11 camera crew when all they really needed was Hampton Roads !

why this? why that? i dont claim to know the answers and most of the time the logic wasnt there that we now have in hindsite either .

The 1969 shows have a more obvious reason - nobody at RCA knew how Elvis would perform or what Elvis would perform. As it was, they could have got an album from one night alone, but it appears clear that they were trying to get as many different songs recorded as possible, hence why Elvis tried out new stuff on the final night of recording.

The weird issue is the summer of 1970. Why record 6 full shows to release just four songs? When they were struggling to find material to find albums a few years later, why didn't Felton & Co go back to those shows and release a live album from them? It would have been a better option than some of the sub par efforts that came out after shoving ten leftovers together. There were songs recorded in August 1970 that hadn't been issued on a live album. They could even have supplemented the album with songs from February 1970, too (Don't Cry Daddy, Kentucky Rain etc), and even the previous August (Baby What You Want Me To Do, Reconsider Baby, Memories etc). It would have been a better option than Fool or Raised on Rock.

I like it, too. But I don't think it's very good, all the same!

[dougkapp]

I believe that the shows recorded in August 1970 could have been released in the middle of 1971.
After 1971, I believe it no longer made sense to release a complete show recorded more than 1 year ago. After that date, in 1972, 1973, they would be too out of context.
Certainly, after August 1977 the August 1970 shows would have had a lot of commercial and historical appeal.

[dougkapp]

For now we have to wait for details of the upcoming FTD Elvis On Tour book. I hope that only one book will be made and not two as was done with TTWII

[Z0S0]

For now we have to wait for details of the upcoming FTD Elvis On Tour book. I hope that only one book will be made and not two as was done with TTWII

it could be either at this stage , just as it could be ALL the audio OR just the best of it !

[Mona Lisa]

FTD 'On Tour' Deluxe Release Confirmed: As many fans have suspected, FTD have now confirmed that they will be releasing a special 'On Tour' deluxe release to celebrate the film's 50th Anniversary.
For fans of the 'TTWII deluxe set' that was released last year, this is GREAT news.
A "big" FTD production for September / October 2021 is also noted.

FTD author David English posted.
... "In response to many questions I have received, I can confirm that both Pål Granlund and myself are busy working on an FTD 'On Tour' project for the 50th Anniversary of the movie, with a tentative release date - August / September 2022 (Audio elements will be included though not finalised).

If any collectors own any materials/ photos/ documents in relation to the movie, Elvis On Tour, then please get in contact with me at david_memphis@hotmail.com

In addition, we are putting the final elements together for a big 2021 September / October release - more details to follow.

With thanks - David"



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Is the big FTD September release an ALOHA FROM HAWAII book with 2 top quality audience recordings from the period included? Plus a QUAD version of the original album ...

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[Axeman]

The weird issue is the summer of 1970. Why record 6 full shows to release just four songs?

My guess is that since MGM was filming six shows, and not knowing what would make the final print, RCA wanted to have matching audio, regardless of what the outcome would be.

[L Ray]

The weird issue is the summer of 1970. Why record 6 full shows to release just four songs?

My guess is that since MGM was filming six shows, and not knowing what would make the final print, RCA wanted to have matching audio, regardless of what the outcome would be.

Yes. It made perfect sense that they would record the same shows that were being filmed.

[pmp]

The weird issue is the summer of 1970. Why record 6 full shows to release just four songs?

My guess is that since MGM was filming six shows, and not knowing what would make the final print, RCA wanted to have matching audio, regardless of what the outcome would be.

But that still doesn't tell us why they only released four songs. Given how much the Elvis machine liked to use every last scrap in the vaults, good or bad, it seems really very strange that only 8 songs were released from the Feb 1970 live performances, 4 songs from the August 1970 performances, and only 2 songs from the Feb 1972 performances. Even the 1969 shows only had one album of live material released from them, whereas that could have easily been a double, thus saving Back in Memphis for a rainy day.

[OnTourCam]

Correct recording 6 shows complete with good audio they covered there ass

Regarding Elvis On Tour can someone check just for curiosity how much
A blank reel to reel tape good brand was in 1972 ? The one you can use in a reel to reel tape recorder domestic use

[Scoobie]

Correct recording 6 shows complete with good audio they covered there ass

Regarding Elvis On Tour can someone check just for curiosity how much
A blank reel to reel tape good brand was in 1972 ? The one you can use in a reel to reel tape recorder domestic use

If you are talking about RCA and not bootleg recordings (I have lost track of the thread a little) would think there was more than the cost of the tape to consider. There would be the cost of audio engineers, the set up crew, the equipment, the acoustic suitability of each venue and the fast turn around between gigs to consider.
While they use reel to reel tape it would not be the standard domestic two track tape, it would have to be able to record all the different instruments and groups, so multi-track, as seen in the fake recording session seen in E.O.T.

There was more at play than the cost of the tape.

[OnTourCam]

correct but i am not talking multi track recording
just a basic feed from the desk into a portable reel to reel tape machine

[DEH]

I remember one band it may have been The Doors answering why they didn't professionally record more shows and it was the cost and the headache of them having to follow the band everywhere on tour. It was done in some cities when a live album was planned.

[Scoobie]

correct but i am not talking multi track recording
just a basic feed from the desk into a portable reel to reel tape machine

I which case, the sound desk engineer could have done it easily. However, I would imagine that they would have been more concerned about the job in hand and there may have been legal implications unless they were requested to do so by Elvis or his staff.

If you put yourself in their shoes, it was just another gig, in just another Elvis tour. No one in their position could have predicted the end would come in five years. Elvis was doing well and it was just another nights work to these guys.

[Axeman]

But that still doesn't tell us why they only released four songs. Given how much the Elvis machine liked to use every last scrap in the vaults, good or bad, it seems really very strange that only 8 songs were released from the Feb 1970 live performances, 4 songs from the August 1970 performances, and only 2 songs from the Feb 1972 performances. Even the 1969 shows only had one album of live material released from them, whereas that could have easily been a double, thus saving Back in Memphis for a rainy day.

TTWII was a soundtrack album, and not a live album, per se. They had already released two live albums in the past year, and another full live LP would've been overkill. Using a few live recordings of "new" material (that were also in the film) was really all that was needed, alongside the Nashville cuts.

And imo, keeping the 1969 live disc to a single was done for two reasons: Parker's approach being "leave 'em wanting more", and increasing salability of Back in Memphis, which I don't think would have been as successful on its own.
And the Feb 70 live disc was meant to spotlight Elvis covering more contemporary material... and the two '69 tracks may not have been available to use had they done a double live album that year.
The Feb 72 tracks of course became lost in the wind after Standing Room only was scrapped.

[emjel]

FTD 'On Tour' Deluxe Release Confirmed: As many fans have suspected, FTD have now confirmed that they will be releasing a special 'On Tour' deluxe release to celebrate the film's 50th Anniversary.
For fans of the 'TTWII deluxe set' that was released last year, this is GREAT news.
A "big" FTD production for September / October 2021 is also noted.

FTD author David English posted.
... "In response to many questions I have received, I can confirm that both Pål Granlund and myself are busy working on an FTD 'On Tour' project for the 50th Anniversary of the movie, with a tentative release date - August / September 2022 (Audio elements will be included though not finalised).

If any collectors own any materials/ photos/ documents in relation to the movie, Elvis On Tour, then please get in contact with me at david_memphis@hotmail.com

In addition, we are putting the final elements together for a big 2021 September / October release - more details to follow.

With thanks - David"



(News, Source;DE/ElvisInfoNet)

Is the big FTD September release an ALOHA FROM HAWAII book with 2 top quality audience recordings from the period included? Plus a QUAD version of the original album ...

Sent from my ANE-LX1 using Tapatalk

Why would it be? If they’re going to do anything with Aloha, and I’d be a little surprised if they do, then it would be 2023 for the 50th, and not a random date in 2021.

[pmp]

But that still doesn't tell us why they only released four songs. Given how much the Elvis machine liked to use every last scrap in the vaults, good or bad, it seems really very strange that only 8 songs were released from the Feb 1970 live performances, 4 songs from the August 1970 performances, and only 2 songs from the Feb 1972 performances. Even the 1969 shows only had one album of live material released from them, whereas that could have easily been a double, thus saving Back in Memphis for a rainy day.

TTWII was a soundtrack album, and not a live album, per se. They had already released two live albums in the past year, and another full live LP would've been overkill. Using a few live recordings of "new" material (that were also in the film) was really all that was needed, alongside the Nashville cuts.

And imo, keeping the 1969 live disc to a single was done for two reasons: Parker's approach being "leave 'em wanting more", and increasing salability of Back in Memphis, which I don't think would have been as successful on its own.
And the Feb 70 live disc was meant to spotlight Elvis covering more contemporary material... and the two '69 tracks may not have been available to use had they done a double live album that year.
The Feb 72 tracks of course became lost in the wind after Standing Room only was scrapped.

You're still not explaining why 6 shows were recorded if there was no plan to use them...

[Mona Lisa]

FTD 'On Tour' Deluxe Release Confirmed: As many fans have suspected, FTD have now confirmed that they will be releasing a special 'On Tour' deluxe release to celebrate the film's 50th Anniversary.
For fans of the 'TTWII deluxe set' that was released last year, this is GREAT news.
A "big" FTD production for September / October 2021 is also noted.

FTD author David English posted.
... "In response to many questions I have received, I can confirm that both Pål Granlund and myself are busy working on an FTD 'On Tour' project for the 50th Anniversary of the movie, with a tentative release date - August / September 2022 (Audio elements will be included though not finalised).

If any collectors own any materials/ photos/ documents in relation to the movie, Elvis On Tour, then please get in contact with me at david_memphis@hotmail.com

In addition, we are putting the final elements together for a big 2021 September / October release - more details to follow.

With thanks - David"



(News, Source;DE/ElvisInfoNet)

Is the big FTD September release an ALOHA FROM HAWAII book with 2 top quality audience recordings from the period included? Plus a QUAD version of the original album ...

Sent from my ANE-LX1 using Tapatalk

Why would it be? If they’re going to do anything with Aloha, and I’d be a little surprised if they do, then it would be 2023 for the 50th, and not a random date in 2021.

Which I remembered after I posted it ...

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[LSP-4445]

That's why I did not get the deluxe Amiga set because I was hoping the it would get the FTD treatment. It will most likely be similar to the Deluxe TTWII set but this one I will buy.

I dont get why so many love the Amiga set.
Yes it was nice but way to expensive and the audio quality on the cds was nothing special.(compared to other boots with the same material)
I lended the Amiga release at my library and can do it again but I feel no need to do so.
I wont buy any FTD release if it contains yet another expensive book(s)

[Robert]

That's why I did not get the deluxe Amiga set because I was hoping the it would get the FTD treatment. It will most likely be similar to the Deluxe TTWII set but this one I will buy.

I dont get why so many love the Amiga set.
Yes it was nice but way to expensive and the audio quality on the cds was nothing special.(compared to other boots with the same material)
I lended the Amiga release at my library and can do it again but I feel no need to do so.
I wont buy any FTD release if it contains yet another expensive book(s)

I skipped the Amiga set as well. However, the book looked good, the Hampton AS was a nice surprise and they brushed up the San Antonio audio really well.

Greensboro/Hampton & Richmond was the same old audio so high expectations for the 2022 FTD release.

[Christopher]

I lended the Amiga release at my library and can do it again but I feel no need to do so.

never heard of a public library that rents out bootlegs.

[Axeman]

But that still doesn't tell us why they only released four songs. Given how much the Elvis machine liked to use every last scrap in the vaults, good or bad, it seems really very strange that only 8 songs were released from the Feb 1970 live performances, 4 songs from the August 1970 performances, and only 2 songs from the Feb 1972 performances. Even the 1969 shows only had one album of live material released from them, whereas that could have easily been a double, thus saving Back in Memphis for a rainy day.

TTWII was a soundtrack album, and not a live album, per se. They had already released two live albums in the past year, and another full live LP would've been overkill. Using a few live recordings of "new" material (that were also in the film) was really all that was needed, alongside the Nashville cuts.

And imo, keeping the 1969 live disc to a single was done for two reasons: Parker's approach being "leave 'em wanting more", and increasing salability of Back in Memphis, which I don't think would have been as successful on its own.
And the Feb 70 live disc was meant to spotlight Elvis covering more contemporary material... and the two '69 tracks may not have been available to use had they done a double live album that year.
The Feb 72 tracks of course became lost in the wind after Standing Room only was scrapped.

You're still not explaining why 6 shows were recorded if there was no plan to use them...

I did that in my previous comment.