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Re: Elvis Presley: Memphis (Box Set)

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dougkapp wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:03 am
Is there any chance that the tracks that were left out of the physical version will be released on streaming?
Has anyone heard anything?
They'll be on the next box so that we have to buy it all again.



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ale wrote:
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Rubberneckin, Inherit he wind and If I'm a fool ...should have been included......instead of these....mama like the roses, hey jude and I can't stop loving you/this time jam.... :facep: increadible



Why do you think RCA made those choices?
You mean Sony?...by the way...I think Ernst made the choices
While black listing songs blind folded, "Take good care of her" unfortunately wasn't picked!


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Re: Elvis Presley: Memphis (Box Set)

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dougkapp wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:03 am
Is there any chance that the tracks that were left out of the physical version will be released on streaming?
Has anyone heard anything?
If anyone had heard anything, it would have been all over this thread and I’m sure that Sony would have mentioned it in their marketing blurb. But the set is already on the digital platforms as per the physical set, so I don’t see the missing tracks appearing there now.

However, I’d be surprised if Sony/Ernst asked Matt Ross-Spang just to work on the tracks that are going to appear on this forthcoming set and if they have spent money on remixing the non included tracks, the only way to recoup additional costs is to release them somehow, which means that FTD could be a likely candidate for such a release. In all honesty, I wouldn’t discount any plan for FTD to regurgitate the recordings including outtakes in another box for a release in a couple of years time.

By then, fans will be chomping at the bit to acquire the missing songs remixed purely for completion purposes and probably wouldn’t think too much about having to pay out again for another box if it was in say three years time.


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Re: Elvis Presley: Memphis (Box Set)

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emjel wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:45 am
dougkapp wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:03 am
Is there any chance that the tracks that were left out of the physical version will be released on streaming?
Has anyone heard anything?
If anyone had heard anything, it would have been all over this thread and I’m sure that Sony would have mentioned it in their marketing blurb. But the set is already on the digital platforms as per the physical set, so I don’t see the missing tracks appearing there now.

However, I’d be surprised if Sony/Ernst asked Matt Ross-Spang just to work on the tracks that are going to appear on this forthcoming set and if they have spent money on remixing the non included tracks, the only way to recoup additional costs is to release them somehow, which means that FTD could be a likely candidate for such a release. In all honesty, I wouldn’t discount any plan for FTD to regurgitate the recordings including outtakes in another box for a release in a couple of years time.

By then, fans will be chomping at the bit to acquire the missing songs remixed purely for completion purposes and probably wouldn’t think too much about having to pay out again for another box if it was in say three years time.
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Re: Elvis Presley: Memphis (Box Set)

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ale wrote:
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You mean Sony?...by the way...I think Ernst made the choices



Would be interesting to see the credits. Sometimes it's a team decision on these projects.

But my question was not *who* made the choices, but *why* the choices were made.

What are your thoughts?


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To be honest is a quick login...should be Ale.....from Alejandro :smt002




Yeah, that was a sarcastic question directed at a member who constantly jumps into other people's conversations.


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Re: Elvis Presley: Memphis (Box Set)

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dougkapp wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:18 am
emjel wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:45 am
dougkapp wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:03 am
Is there any chance that the tracks that were left out of the physical version will be released on streaming?
Has anyone heard anything?
If anyone had heard anything, it would have been all over this thread and I’m sure that Sony would have mentioned it in their marketing blurb. But the set is already on the digital platforms as per the physical set, so I don’t see the missing tracks appearing there now.

However, I’d be surprised if Sony/Ernst asked Matt Ross-Spang just to work on the tracks that are going to appear on this forthcoming set and if they have spent money on remixing the non included tracks, the only way to recoup additional costs is to release them somehow, which means that FTD could be a likely candidate for such a release. In all honesty, I wouldn’t discount any plan for FTD to regurgitate the recordings including outtakes in another box for a release in a couple of years time.

By then, fans will be chomping at the bit to acquire the missing songs remixed purely for completion purposes and probably wouldn’t think too much about having to pay out again for another box if it was in say three years time.
My friend, I read all the threads, but sometimes something slips through, that's why I asked.
I take your point, but I’m not sure that something as significant as the non included tracks appearing only on the digital platform would have been reported as an isolated comment that might have slipped through and therefore missed. Something as important as that would have been picked up, analysed/discussed time and time again as to the reasons why such a thing was happening with different thoughts about how those tracks would later appear on a physical release. So I think it is safe to say that you would not have missed it. :wink:


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drjohncarpenter wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 5:51 am
ale wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2024 10:11 pm
You mean Sony?...by the way...I think Ernst made the choices



Would be interesting to see the credits. Sometimes it's a team decision on these projects.

But my question was not *who* made the choices, but *why* the choices were made.

What are your thoughts?
Oh..ok....well is hard to understand "why" they left out 3 songs that are clearly better than the 3 they included...don't have a clue :wink:




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drjohncarpenter wrote:
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ale wrote:
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To be honest is a quick login...should be Ale.....from Alejandro :smt002




Yeah, that was a sarcastic question directed at a member who constantly jumps into other people's conversations.
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ale wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 5:12 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 5:52 am
ale wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2024 10:15 pm
To be honest is a quick login...should be Ale.....from Alejandro :smt002




Yeah, that was a sarcastic question directed at a member who constantly jumps into other people's conversations.
Ok.. :)
The Doc doesn't quite understand the difference between a public forum where anyone can jump in on a converstion and sending a private message for an exclusive conversation.


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ale wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 5:12 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 5:52 am
ale wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2024 10:15 pm
To be honest is a quick login...should be Ale.....from Alejandro :smt002




Yeah, that was a sarcastic question directed at a member who constantly jumps into other people's conversations.
Ok.. :)
but at least he apologised for his sarcastic question.....oh, wait a minute.



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Re: Elvis Presley: Memphis (Box Set)

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Lee Wood wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:19 am
dougkapp wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:03 am
Is there any chance that the tracks that were left out of the physical version will be released on streaming?
Has anyone heard anything?
They'll be on the next box so that we have to buy it all again.
We don't have to, we get to.

And it'll be so much fun!


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Re: Elvis Presley: Memphis (Box Set)

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Rob wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:40 pm
Lee Wood wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:19 am
dougkapp wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:03 am
Is there any chance that the tracks that were left out of the physical version will be released on streaming?
Has anyone heard anything?
They'll be on the next box so that we have to buy it all again.
We don't have to, we get to.

And it'll be so much fun!
Yesssss, can't wait to spend what money I have left after our new government take their bit. Wait, if I didn't vote for them, can I refuse their very kind offer of raising my taxes?



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Re: Elvis Presley: Memphis (Box Set)

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Union Ave wrote:
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The Doc doesn't quite understand the difference between a public forum where anyone can jump in on a converstion and sending a private message for an exclusive conversation.
And yet here you are, seemingly always chasing him up & down the FECC message board.
As pointed out, that’s because it’s public forum where people can join in any conversation, which is what PMP did and what you have just done. But it seems the Doc cannot understand that.


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Lee Wood wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:46 pm
Rob wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:40 pm
Lee Wood wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:19 am
dougkapp wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:03 am
Is there any chance that the tracks that were left out of the physical version will be released on streaming?
Has anyone heard anything?
They'll be on the next box so that we have to buy it all again.
We don't have to, we get to.

And it'll be so much fun!
Yesssss, can't wait to spend what money I have left after our new government take their bit. Wait, if I didn't vote for them, can I refuse their very kind offer of raising my taxes?
Probably not….but I know she’s pissed off a lot of people today. :wink:


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Re: Elvis Presley: Memphis (Box Set)

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Union Ave wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:52 am
emjel wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 10:36 pm

As pointed out, that’s because it’s public forum where people can join in any conversation, which is what PMP did and what you have just done. But it seems the Doc cannot understand that.
There's a difference between joining a conversation and trolling. But of course you wouldn't know that.
But clearly you do and you’re definitely an expert in the latter. Which reminds me…I need to get back to you regarding your earlier request…or was it a demand.


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Union Ave wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:34 pm
pmp wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:48 pm

The Doc doesn't quite understand the difference between a public forum where anyone can jump in on a converstion and sending a private message for an exclusive conversation.
And yet here you are, seemingly always chasing him up & down the FECC message board.
I wasn't talking to you...and yet you jumped into a coversation while chasing myself, Emjel and Lee Wood and up and down the message board.
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...and just to brighten up the mood a tad it`s only 11 days away ::rocks




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Just ordered mine today. Had a $57 credit with Amazon so it was almost free! Will have it next Friday.




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MikeTCB wrote:
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drjohncarpenter wrote:
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ale wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2024 3:30 am
Rubberneckin, Inherit he wind and If I'm a fool ...should have been included......instead of these....mama like the roses, hey jude and I can't stop loving you/this time jam.... :facep: increadible



Why do you think RCA made those choices?
I find it odd they omit these as well. So why did they make these choices?
I also find that odd. It seems to me that if everything can't be released, it should not be released at all. Even if I wanted to purchase the box, that would leave me not wanting it because its incomplete.
There was an argument repeatedly made on this forum - unconvincingly - that Ernst left out certain tracks from boxed sets because they weren't good. I think' it's clear from the decisions made for this set that the omissions are actually puzzling.




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well with that recent interview with Ernst they could have asked him but I bet it never happened :shock:



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sweetangeline wrote:
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well with that recent interview with Ernst they could have asked him but I bet it never happened :shock:
The fact that there appears to have been little thought/planning in doing that interview in the first place suggests you are likely to be correct. And no one will have the temerity to ask such question if Ernst makes his annual appearance in Memphis selling Sony’s latest offering.
It’ll most likely consist of the usual over enthusiastic soundbites gushing out from whoever it is on stage talking to him or Roger as if they have discovered and released a load of recordings that no one ever knew existed, instead of allowing the audience to ask lots of meaningful questions about the release, and other questions such as why is it that FTD release never appear on time, or why do FTD releases attract higher than average prices and any clues to future happenings from the label. Yeah, we know that the chances of getting meaningful answers to such questions is highly unlikely but if you don’t ask, you don’t get.

And they’d probably have a Parker lookalike in the audience who would get up and call out "I'd like to live to my reputation of being a nice guy, but that’s it folks!" followed by Jorgensen & Semon running off the stage. :wink:


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emjel wrote:
sweetangeline wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:05 am
well with that recent interview with Ernst they could have asked him but I bet it never happened :shock:
The fact that there appears to have been little thought/planning in doing that interview in the first place suggests you are likely to be correct. And no one will have the temerity to ask such question if Ernst makes his annual appearance in Memphis selling Sony’s latest offering.
It’ll most likely consist of the usual over enthusiastic soundbites gushing out from whoever it is on stage talking to him or Roger as if they have discovered and released a load of recordings that no one ever knew existed, instead of allowing the audience to ask lots of meaningful questions about the release, and other questions such as why is it that FTD release never appear on time, or why do FTD releases attract higher than average prices and any clues to future happenings from the label. Yeah, we know that the chances of getting meaningful answers to such questions is highly unlikely but if you don’t ask, you don’t get.

And they’d probably have a Parker lookalike in the audience who would get up and call out "I'd like to live to my reputation of being a nice guy, but that’s it folks!" followed by Jorgensen & Semon running off the stage. :wink:
For FTD to be late they would have to announce, publish, the release date- which they don’t. So they aren’t really late.


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ForeverElvis wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:15 pm
emjel wrote:
sweetangeline wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:05 am
well with that recent interview with Ernst they could have asked him but I bet it never happened :shock:
The fact that there appears to have been little thought/planning in doing that interview in the first place suggests you are likely to be correct. And no one will have the temerity to ask such question if Ernst makes his annual appearance in Memphis selling Sony’s latest offering.
It’ll most likely consist of the usual over enthusiastic soundbites gushing out from whoever it is on stage talking to him or Roger as if they have discovered and released a load of recordings that no one ever knew existed, instead of allowing the audience to ask lots of meaningful questions about the release, and other questions such as why is it that FTD release never appear on time, or why do FTD releases attract higher than average prices and any clues to future happenings from the label. Yeah, we know that the chances of getting meaningful answers to such questions is highly unlikely but if you don’t ask, you don’t get.

And they’d probably have a Parker lookalike in the audience who would get up and call out "I'd like to live to my reputation of being a nice guy, but that’s it folks!" followed by Jorgensen & Semon running off the stage. :wink:
For FTD to be late they would have to announce, publish, the release date- which they don’t. So they aren’t really late.
Mmmm…Aren’t you being a little pedantic. Okay maybe I should have said "in a timely manner’, but I’m sure you understand the point I was making. Yes, they don’t give actual release dates by the day and month and from memory never have, but have often announced a month of release which in many cases they have not always adhered to.
The latest announcement for the Guitar Man set was made in the third week of May and I don’t think it is unreasonable for fans to think the set would have turned up by mid July. We are now two days away from August and still no details - I’d be surprised if fans outside of Europe now see it before the second week of August - maybe even the third by the time things have gone through shipping to the dealers and then the dealers getting things sorted.
After 25 years in existence and as someone else pointed out, you’d think they could work to more accurate lead times. Other small labels manage to give a release date for back catalogue kind of releases or re-issues and stick to those dates given, so why can’t FTD. It’s not like they are a label which deals with other artists too. If they need a lengthy lead time, make the announcement, as an example in June and then offer a release schedule even it was just "to be released third week of October" At least fans would have an idea of when to expect the release.


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I wasn't talking to you...and yet you jumped into a coversation while chasing myself, Emjel and Lee Wood and up and down the message board.
... But I'm not secretly looking for approval from the other party.
You're kidding, right? You're the one who acts like his lapdog. Tip: he doesn't need you to fight his battles.

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