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Songs uploaded my phone from iTunes now. Nothing so exciting sound wise.
Less James guitar less Tutt drums more orchestra it’s sound little bit empty for rock songs IMHO.


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Songs uploaded my phone from iTunes now. Nothing so exciting sound wise.
Less James guitar less Tutt drums more orchestra it’s sound little bit empty for rock songs IMHO.


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I’m not that bothered in all honesty and whether it was 200 million, 300 million or 400 million. Figures given are estimates but It’s not something that continually gets pitched to all and sundry. The fact remains that Our World was broadcast as it happened around the world via 4 satellites and Aloha wasn’t.

But this is what it is saying in the latest booklet "..the concert was initially beamed around the globe, reaching an audience estimated at more than one billion people at the time". But it wasn’t - it wasn’t beamed around the globe at the time of the show and it did not have an audience if over one billion people - and evidence has shown that the numbers etc are simply mythical. It really is as simple as that.[/quote]

Reading this part of the quote,”the concert was initially beamed around the globe, reaching an audience estimated at more than one billion people at the time". It actually doesn’t claim more than 1 billion watched it. It’s actually saying the potential audience was more than a billion - which it was.

Sadly, we’ll never know, TV ratings measurements were really in their infancy at the time - compared to now, particularly outside of North America.


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I listened to the rehearsal show yesterday and it is an improvement imo. Plenty of bass on offer and not smothered in reverb or compression. Good oomph to the drums. Nice spread of instruments/vocals. James a bit recessed for my taste though. I still prefer the drier mixing/mastering done of the 72 live tracks (Burning Love album) which is my personal reference and nothing has come close since for me. I appreciate this is totally subjective.

Just to add to the viewing figures. A recent study got the figure to 1.42 billion. In our house 5 out of 6 watched it and 2/4 in the neighbours house. If you extrapolate that across our Estate, Town, County, Country, Continent then the figure makes sense. In lieu of any better data I''m sticking with it :D


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ForeverElvis wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:49 am
I’m not that bothered in all honesty and whether it was 200 million, 300 million or 400 million. Figures given are estimates but It’s not something that continually gets pitched to all and sundry. The fact remains that Our World was broadcast as it happened around the world via 4 satellites and Aloha wasn’t.

But this is what it is saying in the latest booklet "..the concert was initially beamed around the globe, reaching an audience estimated at more than one billion people at the time". But it wasn’t - it wasn’t beamed around the globe at the time of the show and it did not have an audience if over one billion people - and evidence has shown that the numbers etc are simply mythical. It really is as simple as that.[/quote]

Reading this part of the quote,”the concert was initially beamed around the globe, reaching an audience estimated at more than one billion people at the time". It actually doesn’t claim more than 1 billion watched it. It’s actually saying the potential audience was more than a billion - which it was.

Sadly, we’ll never know, TV ratings measurements were really in their infancy at the time - compared to now, particularly outside of North America.

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No, it does NOT state anything about a "potential" audience at all. It clearly states it "reached" an audience of more than one billion people, and anyone telling that story would expect the listener or reader to believe that it was watched by that number, otherwise there is little point in making the claim. You may as well apply your argument to any TV programme that is broadcast around the world just to get impressive numbers - so in that case, the moon landing in ‘69 reached an audience of over 3 billion, but that is totally different if it was written "it had the potential of reaching an audience of over 3 billion".

Further, we all know where this mythical "one billion" number came from and that was from the original press conference and marketing that Parker and RCA came up with before the event even took place and people have latched in to that ever since. We know that not all of the countries shown on the hats took the transmission, even the day or few days after. But that is somewhat irrelevant anyhow - the fact is there were not over one billion people who could potentially watch it "live" in the area it was transmitted to, and that’s the whole point from those who are attacking this mythical number that continually gets written. The concert was NOT initially beamed "live" around the globe and was NOT watched by more that one billion people at the time Elvis performed it, which is what is being suggested in that piece of text.
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Jamie wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:36 am
Just to add to the viewing figures. A recent study got the figure to 1.42 billion. In our house 5 out of 6 watched it and 2/4 in the neighbours house. If you extrapolate that across our Estate, Town, County, Country, Continent then the figure makes sense. In lieu of any better data I''m sticking with it :D
I did a study myself about a week ago, and I've got the viewing figure at exactly 791.42 million. I extrapolated that across my Neighborhood Block, Zip Code Area, City, County, State, Country, Continent, Hemisphere, Solar System, Universe. In lieu of any better data I'm sticking with my figure.



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emjel wrote:
ForeverElvis wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:49 am
I’m not that bothered in all honesty and whether it was 200 million, 300 million or 400 million. Figures given are estimates but It’s not something that continually gets pitched to all and sundry. The fact remains that Our World was broadcast as it happened around the world via 4 satellites and Aloha wasn’t.

But this is what it is saying in the latest booklet "..the concert was initially beamed around the globe, reaching an audience estimated at more than one billion people at the time". But it wasn’t - it wasn’t beamed around the globe at the time of the show and it did not have an audience if over one billion people - and evidence has shown that the numbers etc are simply mythical. It really is as simple as that.
Reading this part of the quote,”the concert was initially beamed around the globe, reaching an audience estimated at more than one billion people at the time". It actually doesn’t claim more than 1 billion watched it. It’s actually saying the potential audience was more than a billion - which it was.

Sadly, we’ll never know, TV ratings measurements were really in their infancy at the time - compared to now, particularly outside of North America.

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[/quote]

No, it does NOT state anything about a "potential" audience at all. It clearly states it "reached" an audience of more than one billion people, and anyone telling that story would expect the listener or reader to believe that it was watched by that number, otherwise there is little point in making the claim. You may as well apply your argument to any TV programme that is broadcast around the world just to get impressive numbers - so in that case, the moon landing in ‘69 reached an audience of over 3 billion, but that is totally different if it was written "it had the potential of reaching an audience of over 3 billion".

Further, we all know where this mythical "one billion" number came from and that was from the original press conference and marketing that Parker and RCA came up with before the event even took place and people have latched in to that ever since. We know that not all of the countries shown on the hats did not take the transmission, even the day after too. But that is somewhat irrelevant anyhow - the fact is there were not over one billion people who could potentially watch it "live" in the area it was transmitted to, and that’s the whole point from those who are attacking this mythical number that continually gets written. The concert was NOT initially beamed "live" around the globe and was NOT watched by more that one billion people at the time Elvis performed it, which is what is being suggested in that piece of text.[/quote]
I have a Spanish magazine somewhere from 1973, and it says exactly that. Something like “between the satellite broadcast, the Eurovision showing, and the recent tv show in Spain, USA and other countries it has been available for 1500 millions of people” (it doesn’t say 1.5 billion because in Spain 1 billion is one million of millions).


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Jamie wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:36 am
I listened to the rehearsal show yesterday and it is an improvement imo. Plenty of bass on offer and not smothered in reverb or compression. Good oomph to the drums. Nice spread of instruments/vocals. James a bit recessed for my taste though. I still prefer the drier mixing/mastering done of the 72 live tracks (Burning Love album) which is my personal reference and nothing has come close since for me. I appreciate this is totally subjective.

Just to add to the viewing figures. A recent study got the figure to 1.42 billion. In our house 5 out of 6 watched it and 2/4 in the neighbours house. If you extrapolate that across our Estate, Town, County, Country, Continent then the figure makes sense. In lieu of any better data I''m sticking with it :D
And so who exactly did that recent worldwide study.


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emjel wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:41 am
Jamie wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:36 am
I listened to the rehearsal show yesterday and it is an improvement imo. Plenty of bass on offer and not smothered in reverb or compression. Good oomph to the drums. Nice spread of instruments/vocals. James a bit recessed for my taste though. I still prefer the drier mixing/mastering done of the 72 live tracks (Burning Love album) which is my personal reference and nothing has come close since for me. I appreciate this is totally subjective.

Just to add to the viewing figures. A recent study got the figure to 1.42 billion. In our house 5 out of 6 watched it and 2/4 in the neighbours house. If you extrapolate that across our Estate, Town, County, Country, Continent then the figure makes sense. In lieu of any better data I''m sticking with it :D
And so who exactly did that recent worldwide study.
It was a joke! My study sowing how pointless this debate is.


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frus75 wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:37 am
emjel wrote:
ForeverElvis wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:49 am
I’m not that bothered in all honesty and whether it was 200 million, 300 million or 400 million. Figures given are estimates but It’s not something that continually gets pitched to all and sundry. The fact remains that Our World was broadcast as it happened around the world via 4 satellites and Aloha wasn’t.

But this is what it is saying in the latest booklet "..the concert was initially beamed around the globe, reaching an audience estimated at more than one billion people at the time". But it wasn’t - it wasn’t beamed around the globe at the time of the show and it did not have an audience if over one billion people - and evidence has shown that the numbers etc are simply mythical. It really is as simple as that.
Reading this part of the quote,”the concert was initially beamed around the globe, reaching an audience estimated at more than one billion people at the time". It actually doesn’t claim more than 1 billion watched it. It’s actually saying the potential audience was more than a billion - which it was.

Sadly, we’ll never know, TV ratings measurements were really in their infancy at the time - compared to now, particularly outside of North America.

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No, it does NOT state anything about a "potential" audience at all. It clearly states it "reached" an audience of more than one billion people, and anyone telling that story would expect the listener or reader to believe that it was watched by that number, otherwise there is little point in making the claim. You may as well apply your argument to any TV programme that is broadcast around the world just to get impressive numbers - so in that case, the moon landing in ‘69 reached an audience of over 3 billion, but that is totally different if it was written "it had the potential of reaching an audience of over 3 billion".

Further, we all know where this mythical "one billion" number came from and that was from the original press conference and marketing that Parker and RCA came up with before the event even took place and people have latched in to that ever since. We know that not all of the countries shown on the hats did not take the transmission, even the day after too. But that is somewhat irrelevant anyhow - the fact is there were not over one billion people who could potentially watch it "live" in the area it was transmitted to, and that’s the whole point from those who are attacking this mythical number that continually gets written. The concert was NOT initially beamed "live" around the globe and was NOT watched by more that one billion people at the time Elvis performed it, which is what is being suggested in that piece of text.[/quote]
I have a Spanish magazine somewhere from 1973, and it says exactly that. Something like “between the satellite broadcast, the Eurovision showing, and the recent tv show in Spain, USA and other countries it has been available for 1500 millions of people” (it doesn’t say 1.5 billion because in Spain 1 billion is one million of millions).
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Any chance you can re-edit your post as your comment kinda merges into mine.


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Jamie wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:47 am
emjel wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:41 am
Jamie wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:36 am
I listened to the rehearsal show yesterday and it is an improvement imo. Plenty of bass on offer and not smothered in reverb or compression. Good oomph to the drums. Nice spread of instruments/vocals. James a bit recessed for my taste though. I still prefer the drier mixing/mastering done of the 72 live tracks (Burning Love album) which is my personal reference and nothing has come close since for me. I appreciate this is totally subjective.

Just to add to the viewing figures. A recent study got the figure to 1.42 billion. In our house 5 out of 6 watched it and 2/4 in the neighbours house. If you extrapolate that across our Estate, Town, County, Country, Continent then the figure makes sense. In lieu of any better data I''m sticking with it :D
And so who exactly did that recent worldwide study.
It was a joke! My study sowing how pointless this debate is.
Why is the debate pointless? Is a debate about Elvis releases and what they sound like pointless? Are your comments about what you personally think about the sound and what anyone else thinks about the sound on this release pointless, after all, they are simply subjective opinions that can form a debate in how Si y presented this release. Was your joke comment itself pointless :wink:
as I wrote yesterday, there are some who firmly believe that the viewing number is over 1.5 billion…even over 2 billion. For all we know, you could be one of them :wink:
Seriously though, whilst we will never know the exact viewing numbers when Elvis was performing, there is enough data out there that tells us that the concert was not beamed globally and that the numbers are a somewhat over the top.
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The debate about the exact figure is imo pointless as no one can possibly validate it. A debate about RCAs marketing strategy is fair enough. It certainly looks to have been a good one whether you call it hyperbole or fake news. It was a huge event with a potential huge audience and warranted the hyperbole. Personally I'm more interested in people's thoughts on the sound and picture quality than marketing.


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Jamie wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:47 am
emjel wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:41 am
Jamie wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:36 am
I listened to the rehearsal show yesterday and it is an improvement imo. Plenty of bass on offer and not smothered in reverb or compression. Good oomph to the drums. Nice spread of instruments/vocals. James a bit recessed for my taste though. I still prefer the drier mixing/mastering done of the 72 live tracks (Burning Love album) which is my personal reference and nothing has come close since for me. I appreciate this is totally subjective.

Just to add to the viewing figures. A recent study got the figure to 1.42 billion. In our house 5 out of 6 watched it and 2/4 in the neighbours house. If you extrapolate that across our Estate, Town, County, Country, Continent then the figure makes sense. In lieu of any better data I''m sticking with it :D
And so who exactly did that recent worldwide study.
It was a joke! My study sowing how pointless this debate is.
Why is the debate pointless? Is a debate about Elvis releases and what they sound like pointless? Are your comments about what you personally think about the sound and what anyone else thinks about the sound on this release pointless, after all, they are simply subjective opinions that can form a debate in how Si y presented this release. Was your joke comment itself pointless :wink:
as I wrote yesterday, there are some who firmly believe that the viewing number is over 1.5 billion…even over 2 billion. For all we know, you could be one of them :wink:
Seriously though, whilst we will never know the exact viewing numbers when Elvis was performing, there is enough data out there that tells us that the concert was not beamed globally and that the numbers are a somewhat over the top that can indeed challenge whatSony is writing in either the booklet or their marketing blurb.
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I just heard the box set promoted on BBC Radio 2. Naturally, the new release is not the FTD release so, of the two releases, the main label one will be more likely to be promoted to radio. The DJ referred to the 50th anniversary, and the current tragedy unfolding upon the dear people of Hawaii, and agreed with his producer to merge these two together in a tasteful way on his show. Thank you ‘Whispering Bob Harris.’




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My goodness, overall, I'm liking the sound on the rehearsal show. Some performances sound glorious. Elvis' voice is clearly up centre, but the backing is supportive and enhancing rather than overpowering or de-emphasised too much. 'What Now My Love' - so incredible, anyway. I'm going to listen to this mix on headphones, where I think it will shine even more. I also like the ending riff and the crowd applause that follows its conclusion. I'll watch the Blu-ray; I suspect that the picture quality, at least, will be slightly better than I've seen before.



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If anyone still has the FTD edition, sell it. Or give it away if you don’t need the money. I sold mine for some 50€ and don’t regret it. The new set sounds amazing. Discs 1 and 3 are the same as FTD of course, but you have to have the rehearsal in this sound quality.


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This morning I went to the Amazon website to listen to the stream of this new set, since I have Amazon Prime.

When I clicked on the "streaming" link, it takes me to the Legacy Edition. It even says "Legacy Edition" at the top of the page and it is only 2 discs instead of 3 with none of the outtakes of the after show songs.

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Seems like there is a not insignificant audio issue on the rehearsal show Can't Help Falling In Love at around the 37 second mark. Wondering if Elvis got his microphone too close to someone in the audience as he leaned toward them. Listened to the same spot on the Legacy and FTD releases and you can sort of hear the same thing but it's a lot less noticeable, to the point where I honestly hadn't paid attention to it before on any release. A bit of a shame, the rest of the show sounded really well on a first listen.



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Seems like there is a not insignificant audio issue on the rehearsal show Can't Help Falling In Love at around the 37 second mark.
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Looks like the microphone hit the stage monitor.
plus there's a bit of feedback where you can hear the backing vocals though Elvis microphone.



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It's a pity the vinyl has an old mix-tape



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Just got the package. It looks great!

The sound on the rehearsal show is FANTASTIC.

Glad I didn't go out to buy the new vinyl... I think what we are seeing here with this release is the fact that bot FTD and Sony/Legacy have to compromise together on what to release and how and we will have to buy both packages to get it all in this great sound quality and mix.

On the plus side: the price for three cd's + a blu-ray +,packaging & booklet is very friendly.



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Well, just got the vinyl and also my copy is damaged, top side. Have to return it. And the date is wrong! January 24! No control here. It is obvious that the vinyl release is something the company do not care about. It is bad.



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It isn't just a copy of the FTD. This time the whole thing was mastered by Vic Anesini.


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