Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
Moderators: FECC-Moderator, Moderator5, Moderator3, Site Mechanic
-
- Posts: 5997
- Registered for: 21 years 7 months
- Location: N-6450
- Has thanked: 1933 times
- Been thanked: 1519 times
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
[quote="Doc, what's your opinion on the mastering? Is it easy on the ear?
Sent from my Moto E (4) Plus using Tapatalk
[/quote]
If I may! It's very listenable. As I stated above, it's a good listen and most of all, imo, Elvis' vocal is up front!
Sent from my Moto E (4) Plus using Tapatalk
[/quote]
If I may! It's very listenable. As I stated above, it's a good listen and most of all, imo, Elvis' vocal is up front!
"If you love me let me know, if you don't, ....move it!"
-
- Posts: 522
- Registered for: 13 years
- Location: Nottingham, UK
- Has thanked: 106 times
- Been thanked: 121 times
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
If I may! It's very listenable. As I stated above, it's a good listen and most of all, imo, Elvis' vocal is up front! [/quote]That's good to hear, over on Steve Hoffman Forum someone had posted a screen grab of the frequencies and it looked like it had been mastered quite hot.bajo wrote:[quote="Doc, what's your opinion on the mastering? Is it easy on the ear?
Sent from my Moto E (4) Plus using Tapatalk
Sent from my Moto E (4) Plus using Tapatalk
Squire Smart
-
- Posts: 5997
- Registered for: 21 years 7 months
- Location: N-6450
- Has thanked: 1933 times
- Been thanked: 1519 times
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
That's good to hear, over on Steve Hoffman Forum someone had posted a screen grab of the frequencies and it looked like it had been mastered quite hot.Squire Smart wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:34 pmIf I may! It's very listenable. As I stated above, it's a good listen and most of all, imo, Elvis' vocal is up front!bajo wrote:[quote="Doc, what's your opinion on the mastering? Is it easy on the ear?
Sent from my Moto E (4) Plus using Tapatalk
Sent from my Moto E (4) Plus using Tapatalk
[/quote]
You may hear it, and you may even see it on graphics! But, the listen is something else! But, to each his own!
Then again, you have the original, PFAP, LEGACY and now this!
"If you love me let me know, if you don't, ....move it!"
-
- Posts: 522
- Registered for: 13 years
- Location: Nottingham, UK
- Has thanked: 106 times
- Been thanked: 121 times
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
You may hear it, and you may even see it on graphics! But, the listen is something else! But, to each his own!bajo wrote:That's good to hear, over on Steve Hoffman Forum someone had posted a screen grab of the frequencies and it looked like it had been mastered quite hot.Squire Smart wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:34 pmIf I may! It's very listenable. As I stated above, it's a good listen and most of all, imo, Elvis' vocal is up front!bajo wrote:[quote="Doc, what's your opinion on the mastering? Is it easy on the ear?
Sent from my Moto E (4) Plus using Tapatalk
Sent from my Moto E (4) Plus using Tapatalk
Then again, you have the original, PFAP, LEGACY and now this![/quote]Yes, spoilt we are!
Sent from my Moto E (4) Plus using Tapatalk
Squire Smart
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
While the new MRS mix is certainly great, the mastering is a sheer disaster. There was absolutely no need to compress this excellent sounding mix to the point where we are starting loudness wars of the 90s again. Due to the lack of dynamics we are unfortunately missing out on a lot of detail which was very much present in other MRS/Anesini projects such as the Aloha show. Not sure why they didn't let Vic do the mastering for this one, at least he knows what he's doing. What a disappointment, this could have been so much better.
-
- Posts: 8840
- Registered for: 21 years 6 months
- Location: Roanoke, Virginia
- Has thanked: 4938 times
- Been thanked: 1848 times
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
Well, mine finally arrived and I’ve been listening to it for the last two weeks.
I was real apprehensive, but I got to say that Matt Ross really did a great job this time. And so we go with the mastering. Why they keep going with this Jan dude, God only knows.
I was real apprehensive, but I got to say that Matt Ross really did a great job this time. And so we go with the mastering. Why they keep going with this Jan dude, God only knows.
I don't care what Ed Van Halen says about me--all's I know is that Howard Stern and Mr. Rogers like me just the way I friendly am! - David Lee Roth
-
- PREVIOUS MEMBER THEMEMPHISFAN. BANNED FOR LIFE.
- Posts: 590
- Registered for: 1 year 6 months
- Has thanked: 410 times
- Been thanked: 377 times
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
"a sheer disaster"?
C'mon... Is it really that bad?
-
- Posts: 8658
- Registered for: 20 years 3 months
- Location: Promised Land
- Has thanked: 1563 times
- Been thanked: 2368 times
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
It’s no disaster, some fans are just not used to a more dynamic and louder experience.
We’ve been put to sleep for years.
This is a true concert feel, awesome.
Perfect mix and a touch of ambience really do these recordings justice.
-
- PREVIOUS MEMBER THEMEMPHISFAN. BANNED FOR LIFE.
- Posts: 590
- Registered for: 1 year 6 months
- Has thanked: 410 times
- Been thanked: 377 times
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
Thank you, Robert!Robert wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 2:27 pmIt’s no disaster, some fans are just not used to a more dynamic and louder experience.
We’ve been put to sleep for years.
This is a true concert feel, awesome.
Perfect mix and a touch of ambience really do these recordings justice.
What you wrote is so much more reasonable & intelligent than what thenexte wrote.
After reading the multiple number of compliments from fans already on the excellent sound quality, why were you apprehensive?
-
- Posts: 8840
- Registered for: 21 years 6 months
- Location: Roanoke, Virginia
- Has thanked: 4938 times
- Been thanked: 1848 times
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
Because I wasn’t really impressed with the mix featured on the Aloha FTD.Paul Allen wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:45 pmThank you, Robert!Robert wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 2:27 pmIt’s no disaster, some fans are just not used to a more dynamic and louder experience.
We’ve been put to sleep for years.
This is a true concert feel, awesome.
Perfect mix and a touch of ambience really do these recordings justice.
What you wrote is so much more reasonable & intelligent than what thenexte wrote.
After reading the multiple number of compliments from fans already on the excellent sound quality, why were you apprehensive?
I don't care what Ed Van Halen says about me--all's I know is that Howard Stern and Mr. Rogers like me just the way I friendly am! - David Lee Roth
-
- Posts: 134
- Registered for: 20 years 5 months
- Been thanked: 45 times
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
Problem is it has too much compression and ambience. It sounds like I'm sitting in the very last seat at the back of Madison Square Garden. I want it to sound like I'm sitting in the front row.Robert wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 2:27 pmIt’s no disaster, some fans are just not used to a more dynamic and louder experience.
We’ve been put to sleep for years.
This is a true concert feel, awesome.
Perfect mix and a touch of ambience really do these recordings justice.
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
I think it's the best sound so far. The band's got a lot of punch and Elvis sounds powerful and beautiful.
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
Yeah, it’s essentially mastered like a soundboard recording. No need for that if you are working with a mix created from high-fidelity multitrack sources.
Hard to appreciate this new mix when the balance of instruments, background vocals, orchestra, etc. is all gone in favor of elevating everything to the same level.
The new Aloha mix doesn’t sound like that at all, you can clearly hear all the instruments and vocals and experience the dynamics of songs between softer and louder passages.
Hard to appreciate this new mix when the balance of instruments, background vocals, orchestra, etc. is all gone in favor of elevating everything to the same level.
The new Aloha mix doesn’t sound like that at all, you can clearly hear all the instruments and vocals and experience the dynamics of songs between softer and louder passages.
-
- PREVIOUS MEMBER THEMEMPHISFAN. BANNED FOR LIFE.
- Posts: 590
- Registered for: 1 year 6 months
- Has thanked: 410 times
- Been thanked: 377 times
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
... "too much ambience"? I've heard it all now.rgray_69 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:55 pmProblem is it has too much compression and ambience. It sounds like I'm sitting in the very last seat at the back of Madison Square Garden. I want it to sound like I'm sitting in the front row.Robert wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 2:27 pmIt’s no disaster, some fans are just not used to a more dynamic and louder experience.
We’ve been put to sleep for years.
This is a true concert feel, awesome.
Perfect mix and a touch of ambience really do these recordings justice.
Unless you were actually there, how would you (or anyone else) know exactly how that concert sounded from the very last seat at the back of MSG, or how it sounded sitting in the front row?
Maybe some fans wanted this new remix to sound like they were sitting in row 18... lined up directly where John Wilkinson was standing.
-
- Posts: 798
- Registered for: 5 years 5 months
- Has thanked: 193 times
- Been thanked: 329 times
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
I was going to buy it. But now after reading the negative comments, I'm going to stick with what I already own.
-
- PREVIOUS MEMBER THEMEMPHISFAN. BANNED FOR LIFE.
- Posts: 590
- Registered for: 1 year 6 months
- Has thanked: 410 times
- Been thanked: 377 times
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
By sticking with what you already own, you'll be saving over $75.
I'm also sticking with what I already have (Prince From Another Planet), but a friend of mine did supply me with a CD-R of the new mix.
-
- Posts: 8658
- Registered for: 20 years 3 months
- Location: Promised Land
- Has thanked: 1563 times
- Been thanked: 2368 times
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
I think we had 24 positive audio reviews over here, and three negatives ones.
But judge for yourself.
-
- PREVIOUS MEMBER THEMEMPHISFAN. BANNED FOR LIFE.
- Posts: 590
- Registered for: 1 year 6 months
- Has thanked: 410 times
- Been thanked: 377 times
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, but I suppose DakotaKid would rather save his $75+ for something else.
-
- Posts: 798
- Registered for: 5 years 5 months
- Has thanked: 193 times
- Been thanked: 329 times
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
You are correct.Paul Allen wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:20 amYeah, that's what I was thinking, but I suppose DakotaKid would rather save his $75+ for something else.
-
- Posts: 2402
- Registered for: 21 years 6 months
- Location: Arkansas USA
- Has thanked: 105 times
- Been thanked: 2147 times
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
Fought the urge as long as I could... but finally went ahead and purchased this set. PFAP has been my go-to since its release, and I have the FTD book with the June 9 show disc and several other issues of the CD as well. This release will most likely mark my final MSG purchase.
These shows have a special place for me, since we saw Elvis in Fort Worth on this tour and it was a real powerhouse performance... probably the last sharp, concert-edged one we saw. Elvis was going to put on his show, and he wasn't going to cater to you as an audience member; you didn't really have time to even think if you liked it at all until he was gone. MSG captured all that in its glory... I haven't listened yet, but I hope to in the next few days.
And I can't wait to drift back and just be a boy in awe of his hero again for an hour. I miss that so much sometimes...
These shows have a special place for me, since we saw Elvis in Fort Worth on this tour and it was a real powerhouse performance... probably the last sharp, concert-edged one we saw. Elvis was going to put on his show, and he wasn't going to cater to you as an audience member; you didn't really have time to even think if you liked it at all until he was gone. MSG captured all that in its glory... I haven't listened yet, but I hope to in the next few days.
And I can't wait to drift back and just be a boy in awe of his hero again for an hour. I miss that so much sometimes...
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Frankie Rider, II
Arkansas
USA
Arkansas
USA
-
- Posts: 8840
- Registered for: 21 years 6 months
- Location: Roanoke, Virginia
- Has thanked: 4938 times
- Been thanked: 1848 times
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
Hey Pete, what do you mean by “you people”?
Lemme stop.
I don't care what Ed Van Halen says about me--all's I know is that Howard Stern and Mr. Rogers like me just the way I friendly am! - David Lee Roth
-
- Posts: 1205
- Registered for: 10 years 3 months
- Location: England
- Has thanked: 232 times
- Been thanked: 450 times
- Age: 52
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
If this is still available, at the current price, at Christmas I'll probably take this. Not bothered if I miss out though.
-
- Posts: 13518
- Registered for: 21 years 7 months
- Location: Nothingville, Sydney, N.S.W.Australia
- Has thanked: 7421 times
- Been thanked: 3130 times
- Age: 63
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
I just listened to the sat night E/S. from June 10th and it was during side 2 starting with the Impossible Dream that I started hearing pleasant music that I had not heard before, also a lovely sound on "For the Good Times", so without doubt an audio improvement.The liner notes were quite nice too.
Bruce Jackson Born June 3rd 1949- Died January 29th 2011 Elvis's Sound Engineer from 1971-1977.
You Don't Know Me!
You Don't Know Me!
-
- Posts: 7712
- Registered for: 21 years 7 months
- Location: South Carolina
- Has thanked: 82 times
- Been thanked: 531 times
Re: Elvis Madison Square Garden FTD box set , are you going to buy it ?
What I mean by "you people" is all the folks talking up this MSG release.