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ElvisDan wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 7:39 pm
Why are there so few clips of Elvis wearing this suit? How much actual footage of this night was filmed? Some great performances from this show. And a very cool outfit! Sorry if this has been discussed before, but seeing this clip from "Lost Performances" got me wondering...?

Clip from the remaster group on YouTube:





The clip makes him look like he's made of wax. People need to chill out on 21st century software.

As for your queries about the MGM filming from the 8-13-1970 DS:


- not a lot was filmed of him wearing it

- only those with vault access know for sure


Note some call this the "Red Ladder" suit but I believe it should really be called the "Golden Gate Bridge" outfit. The one time outside of Las Vegas that he wore it was at his San Francisco show in November 1970.


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I also like that suit. It seems to me that they would have recorded the entire show. It would be great to see the entire performance released.




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We know that none of the shows were recorded in their entirety. The producers knew they had great performances in the can from the first five shows and probably didn’t film much this night. Though this is a good show, his energy and the performances are not the equal of most of those from August 11 and 12. This, and the red suit, which would have stood out from the other all white suits, probably doomed this show’s footage to the cutting room floor.

I believe the performance of Make The World Go Away is the only performance from this show that was worthy to be included in the original film.



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MikeTCB wrote:
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I also like that suit. It seems to me that they would have recorded the entire show. It would be great to see the entire performance released.




If by "recorded" you mean filmed, no complete shows were done at any of the evenings MGM was there, from August 10 to 14.


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ElvisDan wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 7:39 pm
Why are there so few clips of Elvis wearing this suit? How much actual footage of this night was filmed? Some great performances from this show. And a very cool outfit! Sorry if this has been discussed before, but seeing this clip from "Lost Performances" got me wondering...?
There is a book out there tittled "ELVIS - The Documentaries" that lists everything that was recorded/filmed for the film.
Although I remember finding a few inconsistencies precisely regarding what was filmed on the 13th.



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Info is in the book The Concerts, part of the Elvis TTWII 50th anniversary collectors edition boxset from FTD.
Most Aug 13 DS footage you'll find in the TTWII Complete Works boxset




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drjohncarpenter wrote:
Wed May 24, 2023 7:19 am
MikeTCB wrote:
Wed May 24, 2023 1:00 am
I also like that suit. It seems to me that they would have recorded the entire show. It would be great to see the entire performance released.




If by "recorded" you mean filmed, no complete shows were done at any of the evenings MGM was there, from August 10 to 14.
yes. I did mean filmed. Thanks for your response.



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ElvisDan wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 7:39 pm
Why are there so few clips of Elvis wearing this suit? How much actual footage of this night was filmed? Some great performances from this show. And a very cool outfit!
drjohncarpenter wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 11:02 pm
As for your queries about the MGM filming from the 8-13-1970 DS:


- not a lot was filmed of him wearing it

- only those with vault access know for sure

Edwin wrote:
Wed May 24, 2023 12:57 pm
Info is in the book The Concerts, part of the Elvis TTWII 50th anniversary collectors edition boxset from FTD.
From That´s The Way It Is - 50th Anniversary Collectors Edition (FTD, 2020, David English and Pal Granlund), book II "The Concerts", page 190.
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Thanks for the page scans, don't have that FTD book.

As the documentation shows, there's just not that much.



javierTCB wrote:
Sun May 28, 2023 12:49 am
ElvisDan wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 7:39 pm
Why are there so few clips of Elvis wearing this suit? How much actual footage of this night was filmed? Some great performances from this show. And a very cool outfit!

drjohncarpenter wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 11:02 pm
As for your queries about the MGM filming from the 8-13-1970 DS:


- not a lot was filmed of him wearing it

- only those with vault access know for sure

Edwin wrote:
Wed May 24, 2023 12:57 pm
Info is in the book The Concerts, part of the Elvis TTWII 50th anniversary collectors edition boxset from FTD.

From That´s The Way It Is - 50th Anniversary Collectors Edition (FTD, 2020, David English and Pal Granlund), book II "The Concerts", page 190.

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He does a fine version of Make the World Go Away, but he doesn't seem really into it, right?

"not located" is an interesting way of saying "wasn't recorded"


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drjohncarpenter wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 11:02 pm
ElvisDan wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 7:39 pm
Why are there so few clips of Elvis wearing this suit? How much actual footage of this night was filmed? Some great performances from this show. And a very cool outfit! Sorry if this has been discussed before, but seeing this clip from "Lost Performances" got me wondering...?

Clip from the remaster group on YouTube:





The clip makes him look like he's made of wax. People need to chill out on 21st century software.

As for your queries about the MGM filming from the 8-13-1970 DS:


- not a lot was filmed of him wearing it

- only those with vault access know for sure


Note some call this the "Red Ladder" suit but I believe it should really be called the "Golden Gate Bridge" outfit. The one time outside of Las Vegas that he wore it was at his San Francisco show in November 1970.
I agree. It's almost creepy-looking.



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Rockin_John wrote:
Sun May 28, 2023 11:38 pm
He does a fine version of Make the World Go Away, but he doesn't seem really into it, right?

"not located" is an interesting way of saying "wasn't recorded"



Actually, no. The Warner archives are huge, and finding film and audio elements can be a major undertaking. But without the resources to do this for Elvis' 1970 documentary material, some things may languish for a very long time.


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drjohncarpenter wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:34 am
Rockin_John wrote:
Sun May 28, 2023 11:38 pm
He does a fine version of Make the World Go Away, but he doesn't seem really into it, right?

"not located" is an interesting way of saying "wasn't recorded"



Actually, no. The Warner archives are huge, and finding film and audio elements can be a major undertaking. But without the resources to do this for Elvis' 1970 documentary material, some things may languish for a very long time.
Absolutely agree and I'm glad that it was decided to use the term "not located" as this is more accurate without final proof that certain things weren't actually recorded.
We may never know what may reside in some dusty old box that was misplaced or mislabeld for whatever reason.



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Markus K. wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 8:54 am
drjohncarpenter wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:34 am
Actually, no. The Warner archives are huge, and finding film and audio elements can be a major undertaking. But without the resources to do this for Elvis' 1970 documentary material, some things may languish for a very long time.


Absolutely agree and I'm glad that it was decided to use the term "not located" as this is more accurate without final proof that certain things weren't actually recorded.

We may never know what may reside in some dusty old box that was misplaced or mislabeld for whatever reason.




The studio conglomerates really don't care much about an archival search. Even if you're a major representative of the artist, you will get very little effort for your request. Sometimes, if you know someone on the inside, you can quietly acquire unheard or unseen material. But it's infrequent.


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