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Re: Hot News: 3 New FTD releases (late june 2023)

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joekro1977 wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:09 pm
Domino wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:22 pm
So this HGTA set.The previous HGTA FTD had 2 discs.This has 5.I don't care what's out there on bootleg.To me if it's new to the official label then it's new.How much of this HGTA set is new officially ?
3 discs worth ?
Some of these items have been released on other FTD product - here's the list of what's officially never been released:

Where No One Stands Alone (work parts 4 & 6)
Down In The Alley (Takes 5, No Take, 7 LFS, & 8 Long False Start)
Love Letters (Take 1 - FS)
By And By (Take 6 - FS)
Somebody Bigger Than You And I (Takes 2 LFS, Take 4 Tryout, Take 5 Tryout & Fs, Take 6 FS, Take 7 FS, Take 8 LFS, Take 9 FS, Take 10, FS

Somebody Bigger Than You and I Work Parts (Takes 1-4 and Take 6)
Without Him (Take 2 FS, Take 3 FS, Take 5 FS, Take 6 FS, Take 7 FS, Take 9 FS, Take 10 FS)
Where Could I Go But To The Lord (Take 1)
Come What May (Take 1 FS & LFS)
Fools Fall In Love (Takes 2 FS, Take 3 FS)
I’ll Remember You (vocal overdub Take 1 to instrumental track 19)
So FTD needed 3 extra discs for this. Really?



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elvisfan51 wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:16 pm
So FTD needed 3 extra discs for this. Really?
As I mentioned prior - some of the material on the 5 disc set was released on other FTD product.

This is the first time all of these items have been released as a single cohesive set and in running order.

That is the point of the complete sessions series is it not?


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elvisfan51 wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:16 pm
joekro1977 wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:09 pm
Domino wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:22 pm
So this HGTA set.The previous HGTA FTD had 2 discs.This has 5.I don't care what's out there on bootleg.To me if it's new to the official label then it's new.How much of this HGTA set is new officially ?
3 discs worth ?
Some of these items have been released on other FTD product - here's the list of what's officially never been released:

Where No One Stands Alone (work parts 4 & 6)
Down In The Alley (Takes 5, No Take, 7 LFS, & 8 Long False Start)
Love Letters (Take 1 - FS)
By And By (Take 6 - FS)
Somebody Bigger Than You And I (Takes 2 LFS, Take 4 Tryout, Take 5 Tryout & Fs, Take 6 FS, Take 7 FS, Take 8 LFS, Take 9 FS, Take 10, FS

Somebody Bigger Than You and I Work Parts (Takes 1-4 and Take 6)
Without Him (Take 2 FS, Take 3 FS, Take 5 FS, Take 6 FS, Take 7 FS, Take 9 FS, Take 10 FS)
Where Could I Go But To The Lord (Take 1)
Come What May (Take 1 FS & LFS)
Fools Fall In Love (Takes 2 FS, Take 3 FS)
I’ll Remember You (vocal overdub Take 1 to instrumental track 19)
So FTD needed 3 extra discs for this. Really?
The Secular songs were not on the HGTH FTD 2CD, but are included here as they are from the same session. The original 2 discs were packed with music, here they can spread their wings a little, Masters only on disc 1 for example.



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Re: Hot News: 3 New FTD releases (late june 2023)

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I buy this set. But not 1 full take is new, huh?



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Re: Hot News: 3 New FTD releases (late june 2023)

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tinseltown wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:50 pm
I buy this set. But not 1 full take is new, huh?
If I'm reading Keith's sessions site correctly, take 3 of I'll remember you has never been legally released.


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Spellbinder wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:06 pm
tinseltown wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:50 pm
I buy this set. But not 1 full take is new, huh?
If I'm reading Keith's sessions site correctly, take 3 of I'll remember you has never been legally released.
Nor has Take 1 of the vocal overdub. Take 01 is Complete- 2:34 Vocal overdub of June 10 track which is used for the spliced master.
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Ok , so 1 full take new?



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tinseltown wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:09 pm
Ok , so 1 full take new?
Looks like there are three if you include the ‘complete’ work part endings. - Take 4 of Somebody Bigger Than You And I (the work part - ending) has not been released before.


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Re: Hot News: 3 New FTD releases (late june 2023)

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tinseltown wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:09 pm
Ok , so 1 full take new?



He's been dead for nearly 46 years.

The session where this take was made is almost exactly 57 years old.

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YDKM wrote:
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I bought on pre order the live 1974 set today but adding on the postage cost make it one hell of an expensive purchase !
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Domino wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:22 pm
So this HGTA set.The previous HGTA FTD had 2 discs.This has 5.I don't care what's out there on bootleg.To me if it's new to the official label then it's new.How much of this HGTA set is new officially ?
3 discs worth ?
Actually some of this material was spread out over 2 FTD releases: HGTA (2 Discs) and Elvis Sings Guitar Man (2 Discs also). These 66 recordings were on the Guitar Man FTD:

CD 1:

The Album
01 Guitar Man 02:21
02 Tomorrow Is A Long Time 05:23
03 Big Boss Man 02:53
04 Love Letters 02:52
05 Indescribably Blue 02:49
06 Fools Fall In Love 02:08
07 Hi Heel Sneakers 02:49
08 Down In the Alley 02:52
09 Come What May (You Are Mine) 02:02
10 Mine 02:38
11 Just Call Me Lonesome 02:07
12 You Don't Know Me 02:32
13 Singing Tree 02:21
14 I'll Remember You 02:48
Bonus Song
15 Beyond the Reef (overdubbed version) 03:11

First Takes
16 Guitar Man (takes 1, 2, 5) 04:21
17 Tomorrow Is A Long Time (takes 1, 2) 06:15
18 Big Boss Man (take 2) 03:35
19 Love Letters (take 2) 02:53
20 Fools Fall In Love (takes 1, 4) 02:40
21 Hi Heel Sneakers (take 5) 04:58
22 Down In the Alley (take 1) 03:12
23 Come What May (You Are Mine) (take 2) 02:12
24 Singing Tree (take 1) 03:11
25 I'll Remember You (vocal overdub, take 2) 04:13

CD 2:

May 1966 Sessions
01 Down In the Alley (takes 2, 3, 4) 02:18
02 Down In the Alley (take 6) 02:50
03 Love Letters (takes 3, 4, 5, 7) 04:39
04 Love Letters (take 8) 03:11
05 Beyond the Reef (takes 1, 2, undubbed master) 05:41
06 Come What May (You Are Mine) (takes 3, 4) 02:27
07 Come What May (You Are Mine) (take 6) 02:07
08 Come What May (You Are Mine) (take 7) 02:20

June 1966 Sessions
09 Indescribably Blue (vocal overdub, take 1) 02:54
10 I'll Remember You (unedit master, vocal overdub)04:10

September 1967 Sessions
11 Guitar Man (takes 7, 9) 02:52
12 Guitar Man (take 10) 02:54
13 Guitar Man (takes 11, 12 - unedited/undubbed master)04:02
14 Big Boss Man (takes 1, 3, 4, 5) 03:18
15 Big Boss Man (takes 7, 9) 03:48
16 Singing Tree (takes 2, 4) 03:28
17 Singing Tree (take 8) 03:03
18 Singing Tree (takes 10, 13) 03:44
19 Just Call Me Lonesome (takes 3, 4) 02:54
20 Just Call Me Lonesome (takes 5, 6) 02:31
21 Hi Heel Sneakers (takes 1, 6) 02:51
22 Hi Heel Sneakers (take 7, unedited master) 04:57
23 You Don't Know Me (take 2) 02:57
24 Singing Tree (remake, takes 1, 2, 3) 03:20

So I'll pass on HGTA but will definitely get the LP and 1974 concerts.

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Re: Hot News: 3 New FTD releases (late june 2023)

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Rob wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:06 pm
minkahed wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:13 am
joekro1977 wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 11:18 pm
elvis-fan wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 10:38 pm
joekro1977 wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 10:27 pm
None of these are for me - indeed I just picked up a copy of the FTD release "Today" on eBay for what I felt was a fair price.

Happy for those that are excited for these.

I sure hope FTD has quality control figured out as there is so much product coming out in such a short space of time.
Hopefully you also have the Legacy Edition of Today as well because I believe the masters on Legacy are in better sound than the FTD from 2005.
I do indeed have the Legacy. I purchased the FTD primarily for the session outtakes.
If I may jump in, yes, the Legacy Edition of, “ Today” is head and shoulders above the FTD any day of the week, day, whatever.
Also, the Legacy version has the best sounding Dallas '75 show that I've heard.
But Rob didn't they just copy the show from the EAP set and EQ it?



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Re: Hot News: 3 New FTD releases (late june 2023)

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joekro1977 wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:09 pm
Domino wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:22 pm
So this HGTA set.The previous HGTA FTD had 2 discs.This has 5.I don't care what's out there on bootleg.To me if it's new to the official label then it's new.How much of this HGTA set is new officially ?
3 discs worth ?
Some of these items have been released on other FTD product - here's the list of what's officially never been released:

Where No One Stands Alone (work parts 4 & 6)
Down In The Alley (Takes 5, No Take, 7 LFS, & 8 Long False Start)
Love Letters (Take 1 - FS)
By And By (Take 6 - FS)
Somebody Bigger Than You And I (Takes 2 LFS, Take 4 Tryout, Take 5 Tryout & Fs, Take 6 FS, Take 7 FS, Take 8 LFS, Take 9 FS, Take 10, FS

Somebody Bigger Than You and I Work Parts (Takes 1-4 and Take 6)
Without Him (Take 2 FS, Take 3 FS, Take 5 FS, Take 6 FS, Take 7 FS, Take 9 FS, Take 10 FS)
Where Could I Go But To The Lord (Take 1)
Come What May (Take 1 FS & LFS)
Fools Fall In Love (Takes 2 FS, Take 3 FS)
I’ll Remember You (vocal overdub Take 1 to instrumental track 19)
Any idea how this adds up time wise ?


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elvis-fan wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:40 pm
But Rob didn't they just copy the show from the EAP set and EQ it?
That I cannot say for sure. I just know that when I played it on my system and through my Bose headphones, I appreciated the sound.

But it could have been the Maxwell House coffee doing it to me.


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wecanmakethemorning wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:35 pm
YDKM wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 8:52 pm
I bought on pre order the live 1974 set today but adding on the postage cost make it one hell of an expensive purchase !
Where did you buy from YDKM?
A regular reliable seller on ebay


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Re: Hot News: 3 New FTD releases (late june 2023)

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Not sure if this has already been posted but Graceland is saying the new FTD's are shipping on or around July 17th... which means the overseas folks should see it a couple weeks before that...



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elvis-fan wrote:
Sat Jun 03, 2023 2:35 am
Not sure if this has already been posted but Graceland is saying the new FTD's are shipping on or around July 17th... which means the overseas folks should see it a couple weeks before that...
I need to get the move on out my order in for HGTA and the soundboards!!



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elvis-fan wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:40 pm
Rob wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:06 pm
minkahed wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:13 am
joekro1977 wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 11:18 pm
elvis-fan wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 10:38 pm
joekro1977 wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 10:27 pm
None of these are for me - indeed I just picked up a copy of the FTD release "Today" on eBay for what I felt was a fair price.

Happy for those that are excited for these.

I sure hope FTD has quality control figured out as there is so much product coming out in such a short space of time.
Hopefully you also have the Legacy Edition of Today as well because I believe the masters on Legacy are in better sound than the FTD from 2005.
I do indeed have the Legacy. I purchased the FTD primarily for the session outtakes.
If I may jump in, yes, the Legacy Edition of, “ Today” is head and shoulders above the FTD any day of the week, day, whatever.
Also, the Legacy version has the best sounding Dallas '75 show that I've heard.
But Rob didn't they just copy the show from the EAP set and EQ it?
No, it was actually totally re-worked from the original mastertapes. New transfers and edits were done to re-create it and breath fresh life into it and it clearly shows when played in an A-B-comparison.



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I knew it had to be something along those lines. It actually surprised me when I listened to it. I always knew the show itself was good, but I remember being impressed with the sound as well. It sounded a little different than I remembered.

Thanks for the confirmation.


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Rob wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:42 pm
elvis-fan wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:40 pm
But Rob didn't they just copy the show from the EAP set and EQ it?
That I cannot say for sure. I just know that when I played it on my system and through my Bose headphones, I appreciated the sound.

But it could have been the Maxwell House coffee doing it to me.
Maxwell House is potent, I hear!


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elvis-fan wrote:Not sure if this has already been posted but Graceland is saying the new FTD's are shipping on or around July 17th... which means the overseas folks should see it a couple weeks before that...
Yes saw that.

I ordered mine from Graceland yesterday.
Both sets, $155 usd. $215 CDN.
Shipping to a USA receiver just across the border, where I will cross to pick up.

The HGTA set was the same price as the last 5 cd set released and the 3cd set was the same price as the last two 3cd sets. But, I should point out these last three 3cd sets are $15 more each than the 3cd sets that came before them.

Shipping was $20usd, $26 CDN.
If I shipped directly to me in Canada , the shipping would have been more like $35usd, $40cdn.

I missed out on the BH set, got the MSG set.


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I ordered 12 bags of crisps yesterday, and they arrived today.


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They came from Amazon. I know people like to have this information.
How was the packaging? And will you be doing a sealed to reveal on YouTube. :wink:


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Markus K. wrote:
Sat Jun 03, 2023 7:48 am
elvis-fan wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:40 pm
Rob wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:06 pm
minkahed wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:13 am
joekro1977 wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 11:18 pm
elvis-fan wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 10:38 pm
joekro1977 wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 10:27 pm
None of these are for me - indeed I just picked up a copy of the FTD release "Today" on eBay for what I felt was a fair price.

Happy for those that are excited for these.

I sure hope FTD has quality control figured out as there is so much product coming out in such a short space of time.
Hopefully you also have the Legacy Edition of Today as well because I believe the masters on Legacy are in better sound than the FTD from 2005.
I do indeed have the Legacy. I purchased the FTD primarily for the session outtakes.
If I may jump in, yes, the Legacy Edition of, “ Today” is head and shoulders above the FTD any day of the week, day, whatever.
Also, the Legacy version has the best sounding Dallas '75 show that I've heard.
But Rob didn't they just copy the show from the EAP set and EQ it?
No, it was actually totally re-worked from the original mastertapes. New transfers and edits were done to re-create it and breath fresh life into it and it clearly shows when played in an A-B-comparison.
Thanks Markus... I think I had it confused with the Bloch Arena show from '61...




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Wonderwall wrote:
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I ordered 12 bags of crisps yesterday, and they arrived today.


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They came from Amazon. I know people like to have this information.
The hand was cooked in Yorkshire. Where was the rest cooked? I didn't even know pigs had hands.



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Lee Wood wrote:
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Wonderwall wrote:
Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:14 pm
I ordered 12 bags of crisps yesterday, and they arrived today.


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They came from Amazon. I know people like to have this information.
The hand was cooked in Yorkshire. Where was the rest cooked? I didn't even know pigs had hands.
Ah but do fish have fingers as I buy fish finger!


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