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What can be written and said
about Elvis almost 30 years later....?

Well, really not too much is left in my opinion......

Yet, the catch 22 is, it still can be fairly interesting
to read another version of Elvis' private and
public life from someone who was there.

In this case, we are able to read the long over
due book by Jerry Schilling....
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Schilling's book wasn't a book which
I expected was going to tell us anything new
about Elvis' prescription drug problem...
or present more explanation in
detail of his business dealings,
nor provide us with more information as to what was
filmed and what wasn't filmed...or even provide us with
new information as to what might be left in the vaults or
what the future might hold for Elvis fans.....

The reality here was in fact he didn't end up
saying anything new about any of those things.....

But what he did do was give us a look in side
as to how his friendship developed over the years
with Elvis and show us once again Elvis over all was
a pretty good guy....

But we all knew that.....now, didn't we....

Still nice to hear or read about it again...

You couldn't help but sit back at
times while reading this book and get the
feeling you would have done anything to be
in Schillings shoes or even be him for that
matter.....
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As Schilling was one of the few M/M members
who still to this day isn't a bad looking guy
for his age and what seems to be outside
looking in, he himself appears to have a
pretty good personality and was and is a
pretty nice a loyal guy...to Elvis and his
family....

Schilling appeared wanting not to be entirely
dependant on Elvis while still being allowed to
enter the Elvis circle every now and again an
still have Elvis wanting him as his friend.....
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The last part to a certain degree I think he
did achieve.......

Do I end up thinking after reading his book
he was any better than most of the other guys ??

For somethings yes for other things no....

Elvis appeared to always be there to somehow
catch him when he would fall....which was
really no different than it was for any of
the other members who were close and
not so close...

The most interesting part of the book
for me were the first few chapters.

As Schilling explain how he met Red and
Elvis for the first time and how the relationship
developed through football games on Sunday
afternoons...from that to seeing him on stage to
end up being with him back stage by flukes of fate
in the early 50's....

It certainly was a cool position to have been in
as fate would have it for Schilling....

Schilling at times did end up sugar coating or maybe
the better word is he "diplomatically"
touched on certain things without really putting Elvis
down for what we all know Elvis did to himself.

Ironically, the explanation really wasn't so different
in my opinion as to how Sonny, Red or Dave explained
it in their book "Elvis What Happened" some 29 years ago.....
or How Priscilla explained it in her book or how Lisa
has talked about it in some of her interviews....

But of course for them it was just a difference of timing.......

After reading the book did I expect more than what I got?

For some things yes for other things No....

Schilling had a way about him in the book where he
would bring up whatever story out of the blue, which one
might find interesting but he would drop the ball so to
speak and go on to something else, leaving you
thinking he didn't finish the story....or provide enough
detail in words leaving one dissatisfied.....in the result
of playing it out this way.

I was a little dissapointed he didn't talk about his
feelings as they were for some of the other M/M
members, no real insight was given about really
any of them...
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It almost, at times seemed as tho he didn't even really
know them....

Surprisely it was Geller who he seemed to think
wasn't such a bad guy....and who he felt was
a positive influence for Elvis....

When it came to the picture section this was
really dissapointing....like 90% of the pictures
had been seen before and the ones that we
haven't seen before were not anything special...

The thing I really did like about the book was
his way of explaining how he kinda moved
up the latter with Elvis so to speak and what
he would be doing during his down time without
Elvis....

Yet, it still seemed like Elvis was always there as
his Guardian Angle almost right to the end.

Over all for the few faults the book had,
or for what it was lacking in bite I would
still recommend the book to anyone......

PEP 8)
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carolynlm wrote:Not a bad book by any means, but as you say PEP...not too much in it that were weren't aware of. Anecdotes of times when Elvis and Jerry were by themselves....although it seems as though Elvis wasn't too happy about anyone upstaging him anywhere.....
It's a pleasant little 'Sunday afternoon' book, that will look good on the shelves...one mistake that stood out immediately, was on the inside of the front cover..they say Jerry was 12 and Elvis was 17 when they met, and I don't know why the publishers insist on using this cover repeatedly.....or variations of this cover.
I agree with what you said carolynlm and I'm glad you brought
that up about the age thing.

I was a little puzzled about that
as it did appear not to make any sense
in the timeline of things....

If I'm not mistaken Schilling would have only been
Eleven on July 11th 1954 and Elvis would have been
Nineteen when they would have met that day for that
first footbal game in 54'..

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I am thru with Ms Schillings book and I have to say it´s better than I axpected, also. I hope his storys are true, but its a good writen one. There are some others around that are bull, but this one´s ok!

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I thought it was really good. Makes you realize that Elvis was more than the guy in Blue Hawaii or That's The Way It Is - that was only a fraction of the picture of his life and experiences and personality. I don't think Jerry needed to write this book, therefore I trust it to be accurate. I appreciated his continual efforts to do something with his life outside of Elvis (even though he often wound up back with him) but that showed that he could get out in the "real world" and do/try more. Unfortunately, I don't think all the guys could claim this. I think we're lucky to have finally heard his story after all these years.




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PEP, a great overview of Schilling's book. Can I use it on the EIN site?

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nigel wrote:PEP, a great overview of Schilling's book. Can I use it on the EIN site?

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Hi Nigel.....thanks for asking.

Yes, please feel free you use what
I wrote.....

Please mention the FECC board as source
Thanks....

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carolynlm wrote:Yes, that is the one thing that I admire Jerry Schilling for...he just didn't rely on Elvis to make his living. He had his own ambitions from it seems, an early age, and he also realised through the help of his father and brother that an education was the most important thing. The time he spent with Elvis was used as a learning experience.....even from tom parker...in that case, what not to do......
Me too.

Have a story that I can't - won't - post but will share with you privately. It's humorous more than anything else.

Let me know what you think.



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No fair, Flash! :lol:



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Thanks for the review, PEP. If I may so: it's a little.... fluffy. But I also suspect that it's an accurate reflection of the book.
PEP wrote:What can be written and said
about Elvis almost 30 years later....?

[...]

Yet, the catch 22 is, it still can be fairly interesting
to read another version of Elvis' private and
public life from someone who was there.
Catch-22: Derived from Jospeh Heller's 1971 novel, "Catch-22", to denote, as it has come to be popularly used, a self-contradictory -- or "no win" -- situation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch-22

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_bind

The situation you describe isn't a "Catch-22". While you may feel compelled to read another treatment of Elvis (Condition B), despite feeling that most has been said already (Condition A), A and B are not intertwined; experiencing A, or not experiencing A, does not automatically require doing B, or not doing B, and vice versa. A real Catch-22 would be saying something like, "I'm a modest person", when asked about your traits. Now, since a statement of that nature might be seen as immodest, despite being honest, you are invalidating the truthfulness of it by making it! In such a situation, you are therefore damned if you do (state that you are a modest person) and damned if you don't (don't state it; therefore, preserving your modesty, but being unable to communicate it in the first place). Am I making sense? Probably not. Another situation -- more pertinent -- might be some of Elvis' drug-taking. As he took more downers, for example, he might have required more uppers, and as he took more uppers, he might have required more downers, and so on... Vicious circle / Catch-22. One and the same. But they don't apply here. It's an academic point, but I thought I'd make it.
PEP wrote:But what he did do was give us a look in side
as to how his friendship developed over the years
with Elvis and show us once again Elvis over all was
a pretty good guy....

But we all knew that.....now, didn't we....

Still nice to hear or read about it again...
In other words: fluff.

"COPY.................."
PEP wrote:Schilling appeared wanting not to be entirely
dependant on Elvis while still being allowed to
enter the Elvis circle every now and again an
still have Elvis wanting him as his friend.....
Even though he allowed Elvis to buy him a HOUSE (on "Elvis By The Presleys", he says he'll live there till the day he dies...).
PEP wrote:Schilling at times did end up sugar coating or maybe
the better word is he "diplomatically"
touched on certain things without really putting Elvis
down for what we all know Elvis did to himself.
"...........PASTE.........."

In other words: fluff.
PEP wrote:Schilling had a way about him in the book where he
would bring up whatever story out of the blue, which one
might find interesting but he would drop the ball so to
speak and go on to something else, leaving you
thinking he didn't finish the story....or provide enough
detail in words leaving one dissatisfied.....in the result
of playing it out this way.
"...........PASTE..........."

In other words: fluff.
PEP wrote:Surprisely it was Geller who he seemed to think
wasn't such a bad guy....and who he felt was
a positive influence for Elvis....
There's nothing "surprising" about this.

On "Elvis By The Presleys", Schilling is a firm adherent for Elvis and his beliefs, if not those beliefs themselves. He even stands with Priscilla, nodding his head like her poodle, in a meditation garden/renewal centre somewhere in California (I forget the exact name/location). He is firmly in her.... pocket.
PEP wrote:When it came to the picture section this was
really dissapointing....like 90% of the pictures
had been seen before and the ones that we
haven't seen before were not anything special...
Sounds like a fitting pictorial complement to the written aspect, don't you think......? :wink:
PEP wrote:The thing I really did like about the book was
his way of explaining how he kinda moved
up the latter with Elvis so to speak and what
he would be doing during his down time without
Elvis....
Is this a book about Elvis and Schilling.... or just Schilling? It sounds like PADDING to me.
PEP wrote:Over all for the few faults the book had,
or for what it was lacking in bite I would
still recommend the book to anyone......
Sorry, PEP, but you didn't win me over. Not for now, anyway. As it turns out: I have nothing against you or Schilling. But there is such a thing as CONTEXT / PERSPECTIVE.

Are there any revelations -- mini/major -- at ALL in there, PEP? You haven't given a single example. What does Schilling's tome add to "The Elvis Web"? Anything? Just curious.



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Hi Cryogenic I just got up, so bare with me... :lol:

I used the word "catch 22" because in one way I did
feel it was a No win situation.....In one way.....
because as I began to write my comments it's
just how it felt to me and was one of the first
things to come to mind and I just thought it sounded
good, where in one way I was thinking out loud, but
in print.

To read or not to read was the point and the No win
situation, if you ended up not reading the book you
may not end up gaining further Elvis knowledge this was
certain, however if you ended up reading the book same
thing you may have held true to where one may not feel
they gained any further Elvis knowledge, thus the catch 22.

It was up to you or anyone to find out if it was a winner
for you or not......thus again another catch 22
PEP wrote:
But what he did do was give us a look in side
as to how his friendship developed over the years
with Elvis and show us once again Elvis over all was
a pretty good guy....

But we all knew that.....now, didn't we....

Still nice to hear or read about it again...


In other words: fluff.

Fluff it may be, but in reality it was nice to
read goods things about Elvis....better than
always the bad.....is what I thought...

PEP wrote:
Schilling appeared wanting not to be entirely
dependant on Elvis while still being allowed to
enter the Elvis circle every now and again an
still have Elvis wanting him as his friend.....


Even though he allowed Elvis to buy him a HOUSE (on "Elvis By The Presleys", he says he'll live there till the day he dies...).

I made those above comments because...
Schilling was kinda like the younger
bother in the group and even tho he was
at any given time wanting to be independent
he wouldn't have still gone as far with out
Elvis and his connections, nor would any
of them at any level to a certain degree.

So it made him No worse or better, its
just that he was a little more luckier or
fell into things a little more easier than
some of them.....

As far as the house is concerned here
again this helped him gain further independants
above the rest because of Elvis.....

Which allowed him to excel....in life...

No mortgage No debt.
PEP wrote:
Schilling at times did end up sugar coating or maybe
the better word is he "diplomatically"
touched on certain things without really putting Elvis
down for what we all know Elvis did to himself.


"...........PASTE.........."

In other words: fluff.



Here again this may be fluff, but he did
explain this part of Elvis' life without
harming his image....so it was kinda
a good fluff that still got the message
across.
PEP wrote:
Schilling had a way about him in the book where he
would bring up whatever story out of the blue, which one
might find interesting but he would drop the ball so to
speak and go on to something else, leaving you
thinking he didn't finish the story....or provide enough
detail in words leaving one dissatisfied.....in the result
of playing it out this way.


"...........PASTE..........."

In other words: fluff.



Yea, it did appear that way at times....
PEP wrote:
Surprisely it was Geller who he seemed to think
wasn't such a bad guy....and who he felt was
a positive influence for Elvis....


There's nothing "surprising" about this.

On "Elvis By The Presleys", Schilling is a firm adherent for Elvis and his beliefs, if not those beliefs themselves. He even stands with Priscilla, nodding his head like her poodle, in a meditation garden/renewal centre somewhere in California (I forget the exact name/location). He is firmly in her.... pocket.



All what you said maybe true, but I personally didn't think
Schilling would have thought too much of Geller because
there is some real fluff there so to speak.....and for
most I would think Geller has the ability to get on anyone's nerves....
including Priscilla....

Too bad Elvis didn't see it that way and just continue to enjoy life
for what it was and for what he had......
PEP wrote:
When it came to the picture section this was
really disappointing....like 90% of the pictures
had been seen before and the ones that we
haven't seen before were not anything special...


Sounds like a fitting pictorial complement to the written aspect, don't you think......?



What can I say it is what it is....
PEP wrote:
The thing I really did like about the book was
his way of explaining how he kinda moved
up the latter with Elvis so to speak and what
he would be doing during his down time without
Elvis....


Is this a book about Elvis and Schilling.... or just Schilling? It sounds like PADDING to me.



Well, in one way yea it could appear that way, but that was
OK too as far as I was concerned , because Elvis was always
there somehow.......
PEP wrote:
Over all for the few faults the book had,
or for what it was lacking in bite I would
still recommend the book to anyone......


Sorry, PEP, but you didn't win me over. Not for now, anyway. As it turns out: I have nothing against you or Schilling. But there is such a thing as CONTEXT / PERSPECTIVE.

Are there any revelations -- mini/major -- at ALL in there, PEP? You haven't given a single example. What does Schilling's tome add to "The Elvis Web"? Anything? Just curious.



I could say you just have to find out for yourself and in reality
you do....the odds are you may end up not liking the book
but you really will never know for sure...thus here again a catch 22

That's for you to decide if there's win or no win situation....

I will add that Schilling once again offered very little
in anything new, but there were a few things that were nice
to read about, like the early Football games, the early concerts,
him meeting Ann Margaret for the first time, his thoughts
about Parker, how he got involved in the movie "Elvis On Tour"
his meeting with John Lennon and what he thought of John Lennon
his luck of bumping into certain celebrities from the very beginning
and throughout his life and just the way it appeared he had horse shoes
up his ass at times.....was kinda interesting to read....

But again these are all things you have to decide if its worth
the read...and your time....for what it is....

If your looking for dirt or something that will blow you away
in the book its unlikely that you will find those things here,
but if you want to just go through some innocent reading about
Elvis this is the book for you....

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Thanks for the writeup Pep. It almost sounds like Jerry Schilling's life has been a fairytale, at least maybe he personally perceives it that way. Given where he came from, I can see why he would think that.



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PEP, thanks for clarifying -- especially with regards to "Catch-22".

I'll probably read this book at some point.......... in the distant future. Maybe.

Schilling seems like a nice guy. I appreciate(d) his presence in "Elvis By The Presleys". I wish him all the best. His life story -- seen as a whole -- does indeed sound like a "fairy tale", Joe. And that makes him an interesting part of the Elvis Legacy however you slice it. But his book still sounds like fluffy placation for the masses. Ah, well.



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Joe Car wrote:Thanks for the writeup Pep. It almost sounds like Jerry Schilling's life has been a fairytale, at least maybe he personally perceives it that way. Given where he came from, I can see why he would think that.
Well wasn't his tenure as head of the Memphis/Shelby County Music Commission, or whatever his title was, so dripping with ego that the first secretary hired to work for him promptly quit and returned to her old job and the board members/whoever were leaning toward a no-confidence vote toward the end of the term?

He left of his own accord. So it hasn't all been a fairy tale.



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Joe Car wrote:Thanks for the writeup Pep. It almost sounds like Jerry Schilling's life has been a fairytale, at least maybe he personally perceives it that way. Given where he came from, I can see why he would think that.
Joe you hit the nail on the head, Schilling ironically
is the one who had the fairytale life and still does....

He doesn't deny it either and continues to give Elvis
credit for his fairytale life to this day......

I've met Schilling a few times over the years, not that
he would ever remember me, but I can say especially
after reading his book from what I saw of him and now from
what I read, I will still say he's one of the good guys and
I wish him the best.....

Outside looking in it would appear
Elvis was lucky to have him around too......
Cryogenic wrote:PEP, thanks for clarifying -- especially with regards to "Catch-22".
Your welcome....
But his book still sounds like fluffy placation for the masses. Ah, well.
In a lot of ways, that's exactly what it is.....
there is no denying that, but least its in a good way..
Memphis Flash wrote:
Well wasn't his tenure as head of the Memphis/Shelby County Music Commission, or whatever his title was, so dripping with ego that the first secretary hired to work for him promptly quit and returned to her old job and the board members/whoever were leaning toward a no-confidence vote toward the end of the term?

He left of his own accord. So it hasn't all been a fairy tale.
If that's all the bad that has happen in his life
Memphis Flash I don't see how that takes away his
Fairytale status...

sh*t happens even in fairytales, I'm sure he's still doing OK
to this day....

Once again because of Elvis... :wink:

PEP 8)
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I've not read an Elvis biography for a few years -partly because theres not much left to be said - but mostly because I find myself having to listen to his music afterwards to remind myself what I liked about the man in the first place.

The revelationary books are all well and good but thier main purpose is to titilate rather than educate and the overall picture painted of Elvis is not good.

From PEPs review it sounds like Jerry has written a book that will leave a postive impression upon the reader. Thats might well be fluff but its not to be sniffed at - because there ain't many like that around.

Priscilla in her book touched on the subject of Elvis jealousy and recalled an incident when he got upset when he caught her talking to Jerry - presumably because he suspected they were flirting or having an affair behind his back. This incident has been dramatised in a couple of bio-pics but its been skated over and we are left thinking they were just friends and Elvis was just being the unreasonable and possesive boyfriend/husband.


Does Jerry deal with his relationship with Priscilla and how it might have effected Elvis at all?

Its been said by others that Elvis was sometimes irked by Jerrys politics - is this true and if so was Jerry aware of it?

Also what was his role in the Elvis entourage exactly and why did ELvis need him?

When you see clips from On Tour - it looks like when Jerrys around Elvis he was busy doing nothing in particular- just like the rest of them. I know he worked on that film behind the scenes - but as a member of the MM I don't get why Elvis needed him or any of the others around him all the time. Maybe Elvis wouldn't have been so alone - if he hadn't have hired so many friends to work for him or hired so many people to be his friends.

I was watching the beginning of the ALOHA DVD when Elvis landed in the helicopter and it struck me as ironic that the bodyguards who protected him from his fans protected thier own position by keeping people away from him - and they all had a different story to sell at the end of it all because no one person really got to know Elvis - not even them.

All you with these books are little pieces that you have to put together to get a part of a picture and I don't expect Jerry or anyone else to tell the whole story.



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See, the problem is, when someone makes a fluffy account, particularly charting their friendship with a man as turbulent, and living as turbulent a life, through as turbulent a period of history, as Elvis Presley, alarm bells should start ringing. "What's he not telling us?" JS has no doubt sweetened his recollections and tamed them for our "benefit", and, let's not fool ourselves, EPE's, with which he is closely associated. I'm not after dirt; I'm after truth. This book is just a fantasy piece. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I'm shutting up now. Point made.



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paulwood wrote:
Priscilla in her book touched on the subject of Elvis jealousy and recalled an incident when he got upset when he caught her talking to Jerry - presumably because he suspected they were flirting or having an affair behind his back. This incident has been dramatised in a couple of bio-pics but its been skated over and we are left thinking they were just friends and Elvis was just being the unreasonable and possesive boyfriend/husband.


Does Jerry deal with his relationship with Priscilla and how it might have effected Elvis at all?
paulwood...Schilling does talk about it a little, but it is suggested that there appeared to be really No relationship between him and Priscilla at least in a romantic sense at anytime...

He does talk about the situation you mention, which was innocent, he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and really said nothing other than asking if Priscilla was Ok when she entered the kitchen after taking a break from an argument Elvis and her were having ...Schilling was not aware Elvis and Priscilla were having an argument at the time when he asked the question.....Priscilla it seems went back upstairs soon after Schilling asked her if she was OK....to which the argument continued between her and Elvis where she ended up mentioning during whatever they were arguing about, pointing out to Elvis "at least Jerry cares"...or something like that....in return Elvis soon ends up down stairs where he ends up directing some of his anger directly towards Schilling pointing he doesn't need any person looking after Priscilla needs or anything else for that matter....and points out everyone there that they should mind their own business in other words......

Because of what took place out of innocence Schilling indicates he and Priscilla ended up not talking to each other for over a year.....it appears Priscilla and him really didn't become close in the sense of a one on one type of friendship until Elvis died ....
paulwood wrote: Its been said by others that Elvis was sometimes irked by Jerrys politics - is this true and if so was Jerry aware of it?
If Schilling was aware of it, he does not talk about it in the book....

paulwood wrote:Also what was his role in the Elvis entourage exactly and why did ELvis need him?
Outside looking in it appears Schilling did various things for Elvis over the years which were not any more important or less important
than what pretty much anyone else was doing...at certain times Schilling may have been given more responsibility
for certain things, but again its not like somebody else couldn't have done the same thing...its just that here
again Schilling was in the right place at the right time and it was him who Elvis chose or decided what worked
best for him and his personality..meaning Schilling....

paulwood wrote:When you see clips from On Tour - it looks like when Jerrys around Elvis he was busy doing nothing in particular- just like the rest of them. I know he worked on that film behind the scenes - but as a member of the MM I don't get why Elvis needed him or any of the others around him all the time. Maybe Elvis wouldn't have been so alone - if he hadn't have hired so many friends to work for him or hired so many people to be his friends.
Here again outside looking in it appears Schilling wasn't doing anything more for Elvis than any of the other guys...with the regard to the film "Elvis On Tour"...Schilling was lucky enough to be once again in the right place at the right time, where he had the opportunity to convince the producers he could be
helpful in some of the editing required to be done for the movie.....plus other future projects they were considering doing because of some of the experience he had and his wiliness to learn.
paulwood wrote:I was watching the beginning of the ALOHA DVD when Elvis landed in the helicopter and it struck me as ironic that the bodyguards who protected him from his fans protected thier own position by keeping people away from him - and they all had a different story to sell at the end of it all because no one person really got to know Elvis - not even them.

All you with these books are little pieces that you have to put together to get a part of a picture and I don't expect Jerry or anyone else to tell the whole story.
I agree with you, it appears any book which has been written about Elvis by whom ever, have had some amount of bias to either make themselves look or sound more important or special...but I guess that's just human nature to do so....still for what ever has been written all have some truth to what they have said to a certain degree, its up to the Elvis fan to use common sense to fit the pieces together to come closer to the truth.

Cryogenic wrote:See, the problem is, when someone makes a fluffy account, particularly charting their friendship with a man as turbulent, and living as turbulent a life, through as turbulent a period of history, as Elvis Presley, alarm bells should start ringing. "What's he not telling us?" JS has no doubt sweetened his recollections and tamed them for our "benefit", and, let's not fool ourselves, EPE's, with which he is closely associated. I'm not after dirt; I'm after truth. This book is just a fantasy piece. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I'm shutting up now. Point made.
In this case Cryogenic I would like to believe Schilling is trying to be as honest as he can be without offending the family....if we compare this book to lets say other's like for example Geller's book I personally got the feeling he exaggerated a lot of things stretching the truth...for the "Revelations of the Memphis Mafia" or lets say "Elvis What Happened' for these two books I thing there was at least more harsh truth with some exaggeration of the truth ....Priscilla's book felt more like what Schilling has done....the truth is there somwhere its just not as clear or as harsh as some of the others.....

But again that's just an opinion....

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This is a very VERY good book(recommended!) Jerry doesn't skimp over much at all and the only time i found he totally missed out on commenting on was the Las Vegas seasons August and December 1975, otherwise every time seems well and honestly covered. it's a very touching book and highly recommended to read all the in-sight into the years is their and after reading it you feel as if your their in Vail Colorado or wherever else Jerry was at the time- best Elvis book in many MANY years! :lol:


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Just to be absolutely clear: as fluff goes, I'm thinking this book -- unlike, say, Prickly Priscilla's -- is good fluff. "Elvis and Me" was a trashy title for a trashy book. By contrast, "Me and a Guy Named Elvis" sounds easy-going, quasi-lyrical, you might say, and very typical of Jerry.




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Did JS admit to contributing to E's downfall? What was his excuse for not helping his friend?

I will probably pass on this book…

Every time I read an Elvis biography he dies at the end.

I just got to the part in Alanna Nash’s “The Colonel: The Extraordinary Story of Colonel Tom Parker and Elvis” where Elvis dies. Again I’m furious that the men that Elvis called friends didn’t step up to helping him (including the Colonel and His Father). I could go on…

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bpd wrote:Did JS admit to contributing to E's downfall? What was his excuse for not helping his friend?
Let's not lose sight of the fact that a person has to want to be helped for that help to be of any use. Now, if you believe that Elvis wanted help, then perhaps Jerry shares some blame. I don't believe Elvis was looking for assistance, because he didn't believe that there was a problem.



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IF youv'e read the book you'll know Jerry certainly did try to help and the best example was when he had to help Elvis in dec 74' get up of the floor in Ghanems suite because he couldn't walk... jerry reminded elvis of the previous year when he got sick and after dr nicks supervision came out from hospital 'well' in nov 73 did great recordings in dec 73 and a solid season in vegas that jan/feb 74' apparently Elvis didn't like bein told this but Jerry told him anyhow. trouble was Elvis wouldn't take a good advice from a friend like jerry...rest is history.


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KHoots wrote:
bpd wrote:Did JS admit to contributing to E's downfall? What was his excuse for not helping his friend?
Let's not lose sight of the fact that a person has to want to be helped for that help to be of any use. Now, if you believe that Elvis wanted help, then perhaps Jerry shares some blame. I don't believe Elvis was looking for assistance, because he didn't believe that there was a problem.
The part of my post that you quoted above is a little pompous...now that I read it again.

Let me just say that I see it different...I don't buy the 'how can you save a man from himself?' bit...that's just a cover for 'we didn't want the party to end' thinking. This includes his family, friends, management, press (to an extent), and (collectively) his fans.

One example of what could have been done…

When he was too stoned to go on stage his head was dunked in ice water to revive him, he was given the ‘corrective drug packet, and then sent up on stage. Does that make sense? How about, calling an ambulance and rushing him to the hospital? Let the press get a hold of that!

It just seems that he was surrounded by a bunch of co-dependants who had a lot to lose if he stopped ‘being Elvis’. He was screaming for help and no one was up to the challenge...

Oh well…sorry for hijacking the thread…I’ll stop now.

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P.S. No offence to those who read and enjoyed the book.
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YDKM wrote:IF youv'e read the book you'll know Jerry certainly did try to help and the best example was when he had to help Elvis in dec 74' get up of the floor in Ghanems suite because he couldn't walk... jerry reminded elvis of the previous year when he got sick and after dr nicks supervision came out from hospital 'well' in nov 73 did great recordings in dec 73 and a solid season in vegas that jan/feb 74' apparently Elvis didn't like bein told this but Jerry told him anyhow. trouble was Elvis wouldn't take a good advice from a friend like jerry...rest is history.
Sorry, pompous again on my part. First I criticize then refuse to read the book. Not a good day for thinking through a post before hitting 'Submit'.

You set me straight rather nicely though.

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Jerry dedicates his book on aug. 26.

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"This book kept me up late into the night as I turned the pages, reliving every situation and every story as if I were there all over again, until I finished. Jerry Schilling's words brought tears to my eyes, making me smile and nod as it filled my head with things I had forgotten but thankfully he remembered. Jerry tells his story with the freshness and purity of a man who truly loved his friend. Me and a Guy Named Elvis is not only authentic, honest and truly moving - it is a marvel." - Priscilla Presley


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