James1954 on Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:20 pm wrote:There is absolutely no chance that Presley went to any other recording facility to record anything. I grew up in the region, I knew many of the people that were there at the time and who knew Presley. If he had done anything someone would have said something, someone would have tried to cash-in. Before Sun's breakthrough there were very few places in the area to record, in the latter part of the fifties there were over 80 labels in the Memphis region but Presley was already at RCA. WDIA was only interested in African American performers and would have advised Presley to go and see Sam Phillips, Lillian McMurry at Trumpet in Mississippi, Sun's competitor, had very little interest in white performers and preferred dealing with more experienced artists. Meteor, where several Sun performers moonlighted, is a possibility but the Biharis would have released anything they had on Presley and it would have been found by now.
The Memphis scene was extremely tight and small, if Presley was going around to other facilities people would have talked about it merely because he was so weird - Presley was known around Memphis and he was considered pretty strange, and Memphis had its share of weirdos. The reason he took off in Texas first was that his style of dressing and music was much more common there, he fit right in. Much of this topic is just fantasy without any background knowledge.
Thanks for underscoring what I already wrote in a VERY detailed reply to rjm
, and her thoughtful post a page back. Did you see it?
It is not feasible Elvis recorded anywhere other than Sun in 1953-1954. We know for a fact he did record elsewhere in 1955.
"Much of this topic is just fantasy without any background knowledge."
I have no idea what this comment means, as these facts
have been made plain in the course of the discussion:
- Elvis adored the song "Tiger Man" from the moment it was released on Sun Records
- Elvis listened to WDIA Radio in Memphis, knew the disc jockeys and the music
- Elvis attended the WDIA Benefit shows in December 1956 and December 1957
- Sam Phillips
made acetates of unreleased songs cut by Elvis for disc jockeys to preview on-air
- The majority of the small combo songs rehearsed or done live in June 1968 were from 1954-1957
- Elvis rehearsed "When It Rains It Pours" with the small combo in June 1968, and in 1983 a Sun recording
of it was released
- Elvis rehearsed and performed "Tiger Man" live in June 1968
- The 1968 performance of "Tiger Man" was issued on LP in November 1968
- The 1968 performance of "Tiger Man" was seen by millions on national TV in August 1969
- Elvis performed, at minimum, EIGHT stand-alone live versions of "Tiger Man" in August 1970
- Each of these stand-alone live versions had pointed, serious introductions where he called it his "second record"
- More "second record" introductions where he sings "Tiger Man" are found on sporadic live recordings in 1971 and 1972
- There are no
known, stand-alone live versions of "Mystery Train" from July 1969 to June 1977
- No other introductions are known of Elvis calling something a "second record" without a performance of "Tiger Man" involved
All of these things deserve serious consideration, but if you believe this is "just fantasy" I cannot agree.