CONCERTS AT WRONG SPEED

[Elvis2000]

I'm working on updating my FTD list, I'll post it as soon as I'm done double checking everything.

[Frenchie]

I'm working on updating my FTD list, I'll post it as soon as I'm done double checking everything.

Great news!!!!!

[Elvis2000]

Here's my list. There's a few I'm still a little uncertain about, I'll update when I'm 100% sure. (black = fine, green = fast, red = slow)

Tucson ’76 – fine
Dixieland Rocks – 0.75% too fast (compared to the Today Legacy release)
It’s Midnight – fine
Dinner At Eight – fine
Dragonheart – fine
Takin’ Tahoe Tonight – fine
The Impossible Dream – fine
Closing Night – 1.5% too slow
Big Boss Man – fine
Summer Festival – 1.5% too slow
I Found My Thrill – 1.5% too fast (The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face runs 3.5% too fast, the rest of the bonus tracks are fine)
Unchained Melody – 1.5% too fast
Live In LA – 3% too slow
America – 1.5% too slow
Nevada Nights CD2 – 1.5% too slow
I’ll Remember You – fine
Dixieland Delight – fine
New Haven ’76 – fine
Rockin’ Across Texas CD1 & CD2 – 2.5% too slow & 1.5% too slow
A Minnesota Moment – 1.5% too slow
High Sierra – 1.5% too slow
Showtime! - fine
As Recorded At Boston Garden ’71 – 1.5% too slow
Chicago Stadium – fine
Amarillo ’77 – fine
Fashion For A King CD1 – 2.5% too slow
Forty Eight Hours To Memphis – fine
Another Saturday Night – fine
3000 South Paradise Road CD1 – 1.5% too slow
Sold Out! CD1 – 1.5% too slow
The On Stage Season – fine
Destination USA – 1.5% too slow
The Return To Vegas – fine
Elvis In Florida – fine
Elvis In West Texas – fine
Elvis In Alabama – fine
The West Coast Tour ’76 – fine
Las Vegas 1975 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
Hometown Shows CD1 – 2.5% too slow
Spirit Of Jackson, MS CD1 – 1.5% too fast
Las Vegas ’74 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
Elvis In Atlanta – fine
Lake Tahoe ’74 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
The Bicentennial Show CD1/2 – 1.5% too slow
Murfreesboro ’74 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
Omaha, Nebraska ’74 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
What Now My Love CD2 – 1.5% too slow
Holiday Season In Vegas CD2 – 2.5% too slow
St. Paul To Wichita CD1/2 – 1.5% too slow
From Georgia To Florida – fine
Elvis In California CD1/2 – 1.5% too slow (all tracks from Help Me onwards on CD1 come from May 10 and they sound fine, FTD incorrectly state Help Me and An American Trilogy come from May 12)
St. Louis & Spokane CD2 – 1.5% too slow
On The Road With Elvis CD1 – fine
Las Vegas, Hilton 1973 CD1/2 – 2.5% too fast & 3.5% too fast
Fort Worth, Texas 1974 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
South Bound – fine
Pine Bluff To Madison – fine
From Vegas To Tahoe – fine
Las Vegas ’71 CD1/CD3 – 1.5% too slow
From Louisiana And Memphis – fine
Let Me Be There CD1/CD2 & CD3 - 1.5% too fast / 3.5% too fast
Houston, Fort Worth, Baton Rouge 1974 CD2 – 1.5% too slow

[Christopher]

Here's my list. There's a few I'm still a little uncertain about, I'll update when I'm 100% sure. (black = fine, green = fast, red = slow)
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thanks a lot! exactly what i´ve been waiting for!

now we need another one for bootleg releases.

a list like this should be considered essential for a forum like this. i´m going to "report" your post and ask a moderator if the thread and/or your list can be made a "sticky".

[Z0S0]

48hrs and Live On Stage In Memphis are fine. Hometown shows disc one is slow

This is because they are both professional multi track recordings and they dont run slow or fast !

The soundboard tapes are cassete tapes and its the actual tape deck recorder that is the source of the pitch issue - just like most 8mm cine film will run too fast through a projector !

70's tape decks are notorious for dragging (spinning a shade too slow)

[elvisalisellers]

The Legacy release of Recorded Live On Stage In Memphis drags in comparison to the original mix.

FTD's Las Vegas, Hilton 1973 runs too fast.

[DearGeorgie]

Here's my list. There's a few I'm still a little uncertain about, I'll update when I'm 100% sure. (black = fine, green = fast, red = slow)

Tucson ’76 – fine
Dixieland Rocks – 0.75% too fast (compared to the Today Legacy release)
It’s Midnight – fine
Dinner At Eight – fine
Dragonheart – fine
Takin’ Tahoe Tonight – fine
The Impossible Dream – fine
Closing Night – 1.5% too slow
Big Boss Man – fine
Summer Festival – 1.5% too slow
I Found My Thrill – 1.5% too fast (The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face runs 4% too fast, the rest of the bonus tracks are fine)
Unchained Melody – 1.5% too fast
Live In LA – 3% too slow
America – 1.5% too slow
Nevada Nights CD2 – 1.5% too slow
I’ll Remember You – fine
Dixieland Delight – fine
New Haven ’76 – fine
Rockin’ Across Texas CD1 – 2.5% too slow
A Minnesota Moment – 1.5% too slow
High Sierra – 1.5% too slow
Showtime! - fine
As Recorded At Boston Garden ’71 – 1.5% too slow
Chicago Stadium – fine
Amarillo ’77 – fine
Fashion For A King CD1 – 2.5% too slow
Forty Eight Hours To Memphis – fine
Another Saturday Night – fine
3000 South Paradise Road CD1 – 1.5% too slow
Sold Out! CD1 – 1.5% too slow
The On Stage Season – fine
Destination USA – 1.5% too slow
The Return To Vegas – fine
Elvis In Florida – fine
Elvis In West Texas – fine
Elvis In Alabama – fine
The West Coast Tour ’76 – fine
Las Vegas 1975 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
Hometown Shows CD1 – 2.5% too slow
Spirit Of Jackson, MS CD1 – 1.5% too fast
Las Vegas ’74 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
Elvis In Atlanta – fine
Lake Tahoe ’74 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
The Bicentennial Show CD1/2 – 1.5% too slow
Murfreesboro ’74 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
Omaha, Nebraska ’74 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
What Now My Love CD2 – 1.5% too slow
Holiday Season In Vegas CD2 – 2.5% too slow
St. Paul To Wichita CD1/2 – 1.5% too slow
From Georgia To Florida – fine
Elvis In California CD1/2 – 1.5% too slow (all tracks from Help Me onwards on CD1 come from May 10 and they sound fine, FTD incorrectly state Help Me and An American Trilogy come from May 12)
St. Louis & Spokane CD2 – 1.5% too slow
On The Road With Elvis CD1 – 1.5% too slow
Las Vegas, Hilton 1973 CD1/2 – 3.5% too slow
Fort Worth, Texas 1974 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow

I thought Las Vegas 1973 was too fast

[Elvis2000]

Here's my list. There's a few I'm still a little uncertain about, I'll update when I'm 100% sure. (black = fine, green = fast, red = slow)

Tucson ’76 – fine
Dixieland Rocks – 0.75% too fast (compared to the Today Legacy release)
It’s Midnight – fine
Dinner At Eight – fine
Dragonheart – fine
Takin’ Tahoe Tonight – fine
The Impossible Dream – fine
Closing Night – 1.5% too slow
Big Boss Man – fine
Summer Festival – 1.5% too slow
I Found My Thrill – 1.5% too fast (The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face runs 4% too fast, the rest of the bonus tracks are fine)
Unchained Melody – 1.5% too fast
Live In LA – 3% too slow
America – 1.5% too slow
Nevada Nights CD2 – 1.5% too slow
I’ll Remember You – fine
Dixieland Delight – fine
New Haven ’76 – fine
Rockin’ Across Texas CD1 – 2.5% too slow
A Minnesota Moment – 1.5% too slow
High Sierra – 1.5% too slow
Showtime! - fine
As Recorded At Boston Garden ’71 – 1.5% too slow
Chicago Stadium – fine
Amarillo ’77 – fine
Fashion For A King CD1 – 2.5% too slow
Forty Eight Hours To Memphis – fine
Another Saturday Night – fine
3000 South Paradise Road CD1 – 1.5% too slow
Sold Out! CD1 – 1.5% too slow
The On Stage Season – fine
Destination USA – 1.5% too slow
The Return To Vegas – fine
Elvis In Florida – fine
Elvis In West Texas – fine
Elvis In Alabama – fine
The West Coast Tour ’76 – fine
Las Vegas 1975 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
Hometown Shows CD1 – 2.5% too slow
Spirit Of Jackson, MS CD1 – 1.5% too fast
Las Vegas ’74 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
Elvis In Atlanta – fine
Lake Tahoe ’74 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
The Bicentennial Show CD1/2 – 1.5% too slow
Murfreesboro ’74 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
Omaha, Nebraska ’74 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
What Now My Love CD2 – 1.5% too slow
Holiday Season In Vegas CD2 – 2.5% too slow
St. Paul To Wichita CD1/2 – 1.5% too slow
From Georgia To Florida – fine
Elvis In California CD1/2 – 1.5% too slow (all tracks from Help Me onwards on CD1 come from May 10 and they sound fine, FTD incorrectly state Help Me and An American Trilogy come from May 12)
St. Louis & Spokane CD2 – 1.5% too slow
On The Road With Elvis CD1 – 1.5% too slow
Las Vegas, Hilton 1973 CD1/2 – 3.5% too fast
Fort Worth, Texas 1974 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow

I thought Las Vegas 1973 was too fast

oops, I'll change it now.

[Elvis2000]

48hrs and Live On Stage In Memphis are fine. Hometown shows disc one is slow

This is because they are both professional multi track recordings and they dont run slow or fast !

The soundboard tapes are cassete tapes and its the actual tape deck recorder that is the source of the pitch issue - just like most 8mm cine film will run too fast through a projector !

70's tape decks are notorious for dragging (spinning a shade too slow)

Isn't Hometown Shows disc one a reel to reel recording?

[Frenchie]

Thank you !!!

You noticed in an other thread that the impossible dream was 1,5 too fast.
Is it finally at the right speed?

[Elvis2000]

Thank you !!!

You noticed in an other thread that the impossible dream was 1,5 too fast.
Is it finally at the right speed?

No problem.

How it sounds on the FTD is how it should be, I was wrong last time.

[Z0S0]

Isn't Hometown Shows disc one a reel to reel recording?

I have to be honest i cant really answer this, it could well be?

im not sure how that show was recorded BUT its top quality so its either a very rare almost perfect soundboard (either reel to reel or cassette)

or it was captured on the multi-track machines but ive always been led to believe that they didnt just record extra shows due to tape cost -

just like they only captured the saturday shows at madison square garden when they could easily have caught the sunday show & i suspect the friday too

not forgetting only FOUR shows from the 19 shows on the april Tour
(though there was said to be a minimum of FOUR soundboards from other dates)

They used a 7" Reel to Reel machine quite a lot :
The first two vegas engagements and the autumn 70 tour(s) -
there are photos (JAT's book of that tour for 1) that show felton at the side of the stage with the deck in front of him but its a small portable machine, nothing like the wally heider mobile - which captured MSG and memphis etc

just like this:

https://equipboard.com/items/sony-tc-366-reel-to-reel-tape-recorder

But yeah - a portable reel to reel deck is subject to the same issues a cassette deck is, its the same just slightly superior but the speed issue originates from either the wrong recording speed, the deck never running correctly in the first place or the tape - cassette or reel stretching over time !

The 75 "dinner at Eight" show came from that same reel to reel source -
These shows we're somewhat catalogued and joan deary was purportedly
handed various boxes of tapes that had labels such as
" BOX 6 cassettes & reel to reel " : las vegas show/reel number 1 "
" 7" scotch Box no 10 : dates unknown etc"

[Z0S0]

something else i just thought about is that obviously the FTD team have to transfer these tapes in the studio - be it cassette or reels and i assumed they would have a brand new state of the art set-up but it may be the case they are having to use a vintage reel to reel tape deck to play & transfer these tapes into a mac

(obviously the pitch should still be checked & corrected in the digital domain but clearly they are not being)

A vintage deck is very likely to run slow - a few drops of oil would help, as would Demagnetizing the heads -
A "glazed" pinch roller can make some decks run slow !
the capstan springs weaken with age and speed is set by the capstan motor, which is generally direct drive, also quite often there is a fine adjustment control too so the tapes could have been recorded at the wrong speed in the first place

or the issue could be aged tape stretching :

SO: the deck was maybe 1% fast, decades of storage and the tape has stretched 1or2%.
Tape stretch is much more obvious at 3 3/4IPS than at higher speeds.
and those shows may have been recorded at that speed!

REMEMBER that recording a show on either cassette or reel was NEVER for any kind of professional release - forget the silly "reference" line - though there is sense to it but what it means is, they we're made for a keepsake - they we're used for new band members and such things, ronnie and james playing last nights show by the pool (thats actually true and is in print)

BUT they we're never supposed to 'escape' the organisation - i very much doubt Elvis himself was ever played or requested a soundboard of ANY show - infact i suspect he wasnt even aware of their existence .

so my point is, bruce /felton or al pachucki all we're aware of a tape running in real time as 1 of those would have put it in & took it out of the deck - BUT they were not about to worry about the heads, rollers and springs being clean and running at correct speed- adjustable or not on a cassette deck that honestly no one would have given a Sh8T about

no more than they we're concerned with mic overload - which SHOULD have been an easy fix to avoid - thats the point of recording meters -
you dont run it in the red ! but it wasnt important !

AND they we're concerned with the show in front of them on the stage and what A) the onstage monitors so everyone could hear each other AND themselves - and lets remember ELVIS had a hell of a lot to take into his ear and stay on top off !

B) The sound inside the building (for the audience) - THIS...is where the soundboard tapes originate from - the ROOM mixing desk !

[SpyGuyUK]

[/quote]

I haven't touched the Live In Las Vegas in a very long time, so i can't remember, but it most likely will have the same issue.
Also, I forgot to mention that Rockin' Across Texas disc one is running 3.5% too slow, it sounds so much better when corrected. In fact it improved the show so much that it is now my favorite recording from the tour it comes from, because the orchestra sounds like it wasn't recorded, which is a great thing.

Here's my list. There's a few I'm still a little uncertain about, I'll update when I'm 100% sure. (black = fine, green = fast, red = slow)

Tucson ’76 – fine
Dixieland Rocks – 0.75% too fast (compared to the Today Legacy release)
It’s Midnight – fine
Dinner At Eight – fine
Dragonheart – fine
Takin’ Tahoe Tonight – fine
The Impossible Dream – fine
Closing Night – 1.5% too slow
Big Boss Man – fine
Summer Festival – 1.5% too slow
I Found My Thrill – 1.5% too fast (The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face runs 4% too fast, the rest of the bonus tracks are fine)
Unchained Melody – 1.5% too fast
Live In LA – 3% too slow
America – 1.5% too slow
Nevada Nights CD2 – 1.5% too slow
I’ll Remember You – fine
Dixieland Delight – fine
New Haven ’76 – fine
Rockin’ Across Texas CD1 – 2.5% too slow
A Minnesota Moment – 1.5% too slow
High Sierra – 1.5% too slow
Showtime! - fine
As Recorded At Boston Garden ’71 – 1.5% too slow
Chicago Stadium – fine
Amarillo ’77 – fine
Fashion For A King CD1 – 2.5% too slow
Forty Eight Hours To Memphis – fine
Another Saturday Night – fine
3000 South Paradise Road CD1 – 1.5% too slow
Sold Out! CD1 – 1.5% too slow
The On Stage Season – fine
Destination USA – 1.5% too slow
The Return To Vegas – fine
Elvis In Florida – fine
Elvis In West Texas – fine
Elvis In Alabama – fine
The West Coast Tour ’76 – fine
Las Vegas 1975 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
Hometown Shows CD1 – 2.5% too slow
Spirit Of Jackson, MS CD1 – 1.5% too fast
Las Vegas ’74 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
Elvis In Atlanta – fine
Lake Tahoe ’74 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
The Bicentennial Show CD1/2 – 1.5% too slow
Murfreesboro ’74 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
Omaha, Nebraska ’74 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
What Now My Love CD2 – 1.5% too slow
Holiday Season In Vegas CD2 – 2.5% too slow
St. Paul To Wichita CD1/2 – 1.5% too slow
From Georgia To Florida – fine
Elvis In California CD1/2 – 1.5% too slow (all tracks from Help Me onwards on CD1 come from May 10 and they sound fine, FTD incorrectly state Help Me and An American Trilogy come from May 12)
St. Louis & Spokane CD2 – 1.5% too slow
On The Road With Elvis CD1 – fine
Las Vegas, Hilton 1973 CD1/2 – 3.5% too fast
Fort Worth, Texas 1974 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow

Hi,

Thanx for doing this. I noticed in your previous post you said that Rockin' Across Texas - Disc 1 (Amarillo 1974) was going too slow at 3.5% but on the list above it says 2.5%. I take it the list is the correct figure?

Thanks again.

[Elvis2000]

I haven't touched the Live In Las Vegas in a very long time, so i can't remember, but it most likely will have the same issue.
Also, I forgot to mention that Rockin' Across Texas disc one is running 3.5% too slow, it sounds so much better when corrected. In fact it improved the show so much that it is now my favorite recording from the tour it comes from, because the orchestra sounds like it wasn't recorded, which is a great thing.

Here's my list. There's a few I'm still a little uncertain about, I'll update when I'm 100% sure. (black = fine, green = fast, red = slow)

Tucson ’76 – fine
Dixieland Rocks – 0.75% too fast (compared to the Today Legacy release)
It’s Midnight – fine
Dinner At Eight – fine
Dragonheart – fine
Takin’ Tahoe Tonight – fine
The Impossible Dream – fine
Closing Night – 1.5% too slow
Big Boss Man – fine
Summer Festival – 1.5% too slow
I Found My Thrill – 1.5% too fast (The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face runs 4% too fast, the rest of the bonus tracks are fine)
Unchained Melody – 1.5% too fast
Live In LA – 3% too slow
America – 1.5% too slow
Nevada Nights CD2 – 1.5% too slow
I’ll Remember You – fine
Dixieland Delight – fine
New Haven ’76 – fine
Rockin’ Across Texas CD1 – 2.5% too slow
A Minnesota Moment – 1.5% too slow
High Sierra – 1.5% too slow
Showtime! - fine
As Recorded At Boston Garden ’71 – 1.5% too slow
Chicago Stadium – fine
Amarillo ’77 – fine
Fashion For A King CD1 – 2.5% too slow
Forty Eight Hours To Memphis – fine
Another Saturday Night – fine
3000 South Paradise Road CD1 – 1.5% too slow
Sold Out! CD1 – 1.5% too slow
The On Stage Season – fine
Destination USA – 1.5% too slow
The Return To Vegas – fine
Elvis In Florida – fine
Elvis In West Texas – fine
Elvis In Alabama – fine
The West Coast Tour ’76 – fine
Las Vegas 1975 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
Hometown Shows CD1 – 2.5% too slow
Spirit Of Jackson, MS CD1 – 1.5% too fast
Las Vegas ’74 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
Elvis In Atlanta – fine
Lake Tahoe ’74 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
The Bicentennial Show CD1/2 – 1.5% too slow
Murfreesboro ’74 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
Omaha, Nebraska ’74 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow
What Now My Love CD2 – 1.5% too slow
Holiday Season In Vegas CD2 – 2.5% too slow
St. Paul To Wichita CD1/2 – 1.5% too slow
From Georgia To Florida – fine
Elvis In California CD1/2 – 1.5% too slow (all tracks from Help Me onwards on CD1 come from May 10 and they sound fine, FTD incorrectly state Help Me and An American Trilogy come from May 12)
St. Louis & Spokane CD2 – 1.5% too slow
On The Road With Elvis CD1 – fine
Las Vegas, Hilton 1973 CD1/2 – 3.5% too fast
Fort Worth, Texas 1974 CD1/2 – 2.5% too slow

Hi,

Thanx for doing this. I noticed in your previous post you said that Rockin' Across Texas - Disc 1 (Amarillo 1974) was going too slow at 3.5% but on the list above it says 2.5%. I take it the list is the correct figure?

Thanks again.

Yeah the list is correct.

[pmp]

It's worth adding that the most recent Jailhouse Rock release is also at the wrong speed.

[Elvis2000]

Here's what I got when I compared it to the previous FTDs.

Jailhouse Rock – 2.35%
Treat Me Nice (Movie Version) – 2.3%
Young And Beautiful (Record) – 2.3%
Young And Beautiful (Jail version) – 0.3%
Young And Beautiful (Florita Club version) – 0.5%
Treat Me Nice (Second Movie version) – 1.1%
I Want To Be Free (Prison TV-Version) – 2.1%
(You’re So Square) Baby I Don’t Care – 1.45%
Don’t Leave Me Now (First Version) – 1.4%
Don’t Leave Me Now (Second Version) – 3%

[pmp]

Here's what I got when I compared it to the previous FTDs.

Jailhouse Rock – 2.35%
Treat Me Nice (Movie Version) – 2.3%
Young And Beautiful (Record) – 2.3%
Young And Beautiful (Jail version) – 0.3%
Young And Beautiful (Florita Club version) – 0.5%
Treat Me Nice (Second Movie version) – 1.1%
I Want To Be Free (Prison TV-Version) – 2.1%
(You’re So Square) Baby I Don’t Care – 1.45%
Don’t Leave Me Now (First Version) – 1.4%
Don’t Leave Me Now (Second Version) – 3%

The problem here, though, is that previous engineers spotted that the tapes played at the wrong speed and corrected it. Now, if they were able to do that, why couldn't the latest engineer do the same.? It's embarrassing.

[Christopher]

Here's what I got when I compared it to the previous FTDs.

Jailhouse Rock – 2.35%
Treat Me Nice (Movie Version) – 2.3%
Young And Beautiful (Record) – 2.3%
Young And Beautiful (Jail version) – 0.3%
Young And Beautiful (Florita Club version) – 0.5%
Treat Me Nice (Second Movie version) – 1.1%
I Want To Be Free (Prison TV-Version) – 2.1%
(You’re So Square) Baby I Don’t Care – 1.45%
Don’t Leave Me Now (First Version) – 1.4%
Don’t Leave Me Now (Second Version) – 3%

i understand we´re talking of the book/cd-combo "the making of jailhouse rock" here.
does that mean, all the other tracks on that release do have the right speed?

and does it also mean that the single ftd "jailhouse rock" releases (vol. 1 & vol. 2) do have the same tracks at the right speed?

[pmp]

Here's what I got when I compared it to the previous FTDs.

Jailhouse Rock – 2.35%
Treat Me Nice (Movie Version) – 2.3%
Young And Beautiful (Record) – 2.3%
Young And Beautiful (Jail version) – 0.3%
Young And Beautiful (Florita Club version) – 0.5%
Treat Me Nice (Second Movie version) – 1.1%
I Want To Be Free (Prison TV-Version) – 2.1%
(You’re So Square) Baby I Don’t Care – 1.45%
Don’t Leave Me Now (First Version) – 1.4%
Don’t Leave Me Now (Second Version) – 3%

i understand we´re talking of the book/cd-combo "the making of jailhouse rock" here.
does that mean, all the other tracks on that release do have the right speed?

and does it also mean that the single ftd "jailhouse rock" releases (vol. 1 & vol. 2) do have the same tracks at the right speed?

I didn't get them. My understanding is that binaural Jailhouse releases with Sebastian or Kevan at the helm were speed corrected and without problems - which may answer your question.

[SpyGuyUK]

Yeah the list is correct.

Thanks, that's great! You seemed to really like this show. Is the 1976 show at correct speed? I'm assuming it is as you never mentioned it

[TCB Band]

I know they won’t do this but it’s be awesome if FTD reissued these concerts with the right speed. It would likely be a slap in the face to collectors, though.

[SpyGuyUK]

It's good of Elvis2000 to do this for all of us to benefit from. If he hadn't done I must admit I may not have been any the wiser. I hadn't notice when listening as I assumed they wouldn't have had these issues.
I'm glad he did but did any of you notice these issues in the first place when listening on any of the titles that you own? I realise it can be corrected but if you don't notice it by ear how do you detect speed issues?

[pmp]

It's good of Elvis2000 to do this for all of us to benefit from. If he hadn't done I must admit I may not have been any the wiser. I hadn't notice when listening as I assumed they wouldn't have had these issues.
I'm glad he did but did any of you notice these issues in the first place when listening on any of the titles that you own? I realise it can be corrected but if you don't notice it by ear how do you detect speed issues?

I think some are more noticeable than others. I doubt that anything of 1% or thereabouts is particularly noticeable without checking, but beyond that it can be pretty obvious - but it's not clear cut, in my opinion, that 2% (for example) is noticeable across the board. But if you already have a sluggish Elvis performance and then you play is at 2.5% slower than it should be, it all becomes pretty obvious. But that's why the Hometown Shows issue is IMO less obvious than, say, a 1976 show.

But that list from Elvis 2000 shows that there are more soundboards releases running at the wrong speed than at the right speed! Whether they are instantly noticeable or not, it shouldn't happen EVER. It takes little time to check this kind of thing and put it right, and, for the most part, it's just damned laziness and a lack of pride in work. I mean, how can Jan Elasson (to name one of several) not know that concerts were running 3.5% too fast on the Las Vegas 1973 release recently? Even worse was the Live in LA release, first issued with a book that was then reissued as a stand alone disc WITH THE SAME PROBLEM!

And, of course, as most of us know, these aren't the only issues, either!

[SpyGuyUK]

I think some are more noticeable than others. I doubt that anything of 1% or thereabouts is particularly noticeable without checking, but beyond that it can be pretty obvious - but it's not clear cut, in my opinion, that 2% (for example) is noticeable across the board. But if you already have a sluggish Elvis performance and then you play is at 2.5% slower than it should be, it all becomes pretty obvious. But that's why the Hometown Shows issue is IMO less obvious than, say, a 1976 show.

But that list from Elvis 2000 shows that there are more soundboards releases running at the wrong speed than at the right speed! Whether they are instantly noticeable or not, it shouldn't happen EVER. It takes little time to check this kind of thing and put it right, and, for the most part, it's just damned laziness and a lack of pride in work. I mean, how can Jan Elasson (to name one of several) not know that concerts were running 3.5% too fast on the Las Vegas 1973 release recently? Even worse was the Live in LA release, first issued with a book that was then reissued as a stand alone disc WITH THE SAME PROBLEM!

And, of course, as most of us know, these aren't the only issues, either!

I listened to the intros in 'Rockin Across Texas' - Amarillo 1974 a few times so I could hear Elvis vocal and the band playing and the more I did I think I did notice it but if I hadn't have known about the speed issues I would have just put it down not just to Elvis being sluggish as you say but just the fact he talks in that slow southern drawl of his or that the band were simply playing slower at that point.