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Your move, republicans.

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So, forum Trumpers...you're really voting for this guy huh? Wow.

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Nice to hear a classic Australian song You're the Voice by John Farnham being used for a good cause in a new video supporting Kamala Harris's campaign.

Sadly, Trump has been using If I Can Dream by Elvis at his rallies. I bet he didn't get approval.



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Be interesting when Ms. Harris starts getting some real questions from the press. Here's a recent example. Can you explain her answer?



That said, I do love her new campaign ad!



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Mike C wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2024 5:11 am
Be interesting when Ms. Harris starts getting some real questions from the press. Here's a recent example. Can you explain her answer?

[snip right wing propaganda video about racist Border junk]

That said, I do love her new campaign ad!

[snip right wing propaganda video]
Typical racist Trumper. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

"They're not white like me, so we need to invent border issues that don't exist to appeal to our base."

"They're not white like me, so they need to be deported!!!"

"They're not white like me, so we need to place extra restrictions on them for entry."

"They're not white like me, so they need to go back where they came from."



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Wait, didn't the Harris campaign hold a fund raising event entitled "White Dudes for Harris" two days ago?

Like Gavin Newsom, you seem to be upset at the use of satire. Elon Musk had the perfect response.



To me, her ethnic and racial composition and gender are not why I will vote against her. It is the policy positions she advocates which turn me off.
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Mike C wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2024 1:37 pm
BrianTCB wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2024 11:49 am
Mike C wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2024 5:11 am
Be interesting when Ms. Harris starts getting some real questions from the press. Here's a recent example. Can you explain her answer?

[snip right wing propaganda video about racist Border junk]

That said, I do love her new campaign ad!

[snip right wing propaganda video]
Typical racist Trumper. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

"They're not white like me, so we need to invent border issues that don't exist to appeal to our base."

"They're not white like me, so they need to be deported!!!"

"They're not white like me, so we need to place extra restrictions on them for entry."

"They're not white like me, so they need to go back where they came from."
Wait, didn't the Harris campaign hold a fund raising event entitled "White Dudes for Harris" two days ago?

Like Gavin Newsom, you seem to be upset at the use of satire. Elon Musk had the perfect response.



To me, her ethnic composition and gender are not why I will vote against her. It is the policy positions she advocates which turn me off.
Which ones?


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Her push for equity which is just another name for communism and/or socialism.



I support the idea of equality, particular equity before the law.

She has pushed the elimination of private health insurance -- I am against that.

She is against closing our border to the South. She also proposes more personal and corporate taxes which will simply retard economic growth.

Lastly, I find the proposals for the Supreme Court which Biden announced this week and she said she fully supports to be authoritarian and another version of court packing. All because the Court ruled against them in a couple of cases. She clearly did not read the Presidential immunity case she complained about.

Here's a very good summary of why it is wrong and a key fact left of our his proposal. Mr. Johnson is a lawyer fully aware of how the courts work.
BIDEN’S COURT-WHACKING PLAN
The White House has posted a fact sheet on President Biden’s big stick-it-to-the-Court plan. His big plan comprises three disparate elements:

1. No Immunity for Crimes a Former President Committed in Office: This would require a constitutional amendment to overrule Trump v. United States.

2. Term Limits for Supreme Court Justices: This would require a constitutional amendment to alter Article III, Section One of the Constitution, but why stop with Supreme Court justices?

3. Binding Code of Conduct for the Supreme Court: Here Biden “thinks” this can be effected by statute, but the statute would raise a question of constitutionality on which the the Supreme Court itself would have to rule.

Here is one fact that goes unnoted in the White House fact sheet. Under the Constitution, an amendment may be proposed by a two-thirds vote of both Houses of Congress or, if two-thirds of the States request one, by a convention called for that purpose. The amendment must then be ratified by three-fourths of the State legislatures or three-fourths of conventions called in each State for ratification.

In short, the chances that the first two elements of Biden’s big plan might are nil. The third element of Biden’s big plan is window dressing for the Democrats’ assault on the Court. Taken all together, Biden’s big plan is the lamest of lame duckery.

The process for making amendments is onerous and countermajoritarian or undemocratic in the obvious sense. It reveals a knowing distrust of demagogues and tyrants. It puts up roadblocks for the likes of Joe Biden.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/07/bidens-court-whacking-plan.php
Do I need to provide more?
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Mike C wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:03 pm
Her push for equity which is just another name for communism and or socialism.

[snip right wing propaganda]

I support the idea of equality, particular equity before the law.

She has pushed the elimination of private health insurance -- I am against that.

She is against closing our border to the South. She also proposes more personal and corporate taxes which will simply retard economic growth.

Do I need to provide more?
Incorrect on your communism and socialism points. Those are right wing slurs that describe a disdain for liberals and calling them offensive names with little or no basis in reality.

So - you don't want everyone to be able to have health insurance. Typical selfish republican.

You're right - she believes that we should welcome others who are different than us because we are all the same - the same composition when you come right down to it. We are all humans. It doesn't matter whether you're white or brown or whatever skin color you want to think of.

But you republicans are so racist and prejudiced against somebody because of their gender or skin color you disguise that as being about policy when your policies are clearly about skin color, or gender, or where someone comes from.

You just proved my point.



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Try again, Brian. I fully support legal immigration to this nation. However, I am against someone (white, black, brown, mixed race, etc.) illegally crossing our border in order to immigrate into the nation. Does any other nation on earth permit this?

The crisis on the border -- caused by the actions of the Biden-Harris regime -- has lead to sex trafficking of minors and the rape of thousands of woman. You really support this?

Your point was not proven -- you simply read into the statements things that I never said. I must be over he target if you are getting this upset.


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Mike C wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2024 4:45 pm
Try again, Brian. I fully support legal immigration to this nation. However, I am against someone (white, black, brown, mixed race, etc.) illegally crossing our border in order to immigrate into the nation. Does any other nation on earth permit this?

The crisis on the border -- caused by the actions of the Biden-Harris regime -- has lead to sex trafficking of minors and the rape of thousands of woman. You really support this?

Your point was not proven -- you simply read into the statements things that I never said. I must be over he target if you are getting this upset.
It was proven. You just refuse to see it because of your short-sightedness.

And, we don't need more racist, republican propaganda brought to us from your friend Ted Cruz and the RNC:

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-misinformation-republican-convention-illegal-immigration-204ae438725d5b15126325a63330ce5c

CRUZ: “Every day Americans are dying — murdered, assaulted, raped by illegal immigrants that the Democrats have released.”

THE FACTS: A number of heinous and high-profile crimes involving people in the U.S. illegally have been in the news in recent months. But there is nothing to support the claim that it happens every day.

The foreign-born population, immigrants in the country both legally and illegally, was estimated to be 46.2 million, or almost 14% of the U.S. total, in 2022, according to the Census Bureau, including about 11 million in the country illegally. Hardly a month passes without at least one person in the country illegally getting charged with a high-profile, horrific crime, such as the February slaying of a 22-year-old Georgia nursing student or the June strangling death of a 12-year-old Houston girl.

Texas is the only state that tracks crime by immigration status. A study published by the National Academy of Sciences, based on Texas Department of Public Safety data from 2012 to 2016, found people in the U.S. illegally had “substantially lower crime rates than native-born citizens and legal immigrants across a range of felony offenses.

While FBI statistics do not separate out crimes by the immigration status of the assailant, there is no evidence of a spike in crime perpetrated by migrants, either along the U.S.-Mexico border or in cities seeing the greatest influx of migrants, like New York. Studies have found that people living in the U.S. illegally are less likely than native-born Americans to have been arrested for violent, drug and property crimes.


Do you have anything that's actually substantial that's NOT right wing propaganda?

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The fact check you cite is irrelevant. I never said the crimes happen every day.

Here's a nice of summary of the crime committed by a few of the illegals let in by the Biden-Harris border policy.

https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/increased-illegal-immigration-brings-increased-crime-almost-23-federal
A 2021 Department of Justice report revealed that 64% of federal arrests in 2018 involved noncitizens, despite them comprising only 7% of the population at that time. While the Biden administration fails to provide continuous updates on illegal alien crime data, Texas’ Department of Public Safety maintains a running database of such incidents. Other states should follow suit.

Several chilling examples underscore the urgency of the situation. Alexis Saborit, an illegal alien from Cuba with a history of violence, beheaded his girlfriend with a machete in July 2021.

In April of this year, Francisco Oropeza, deported four times in the last 14 years, was accused of gunning down five Honduran immigrants in Cleveland, Texas—including an innocent 8-year-old.

In February, Bryan Marquez, who had deportation orders but was still in the United States, brutally murdered his roommate by beating him. He was charged with first-degree murder.

In January, Jose Hernandez faced five counts of indecency with a minor after allegedly sexually assaulting a young child multiple times.

And in March of last year, Jean Macean, an illegal alien who posed as an unaccompanied minor, was charged with two counts of first-degree murder after allegedly murdering a Daytona Beach couple. Macean had previous arrests related to drug charges, which were dropped due to the soft-on-crime predilections of George Soros-backed Florida State Attorney Aramis Ayala.
Gee, why is the Biden DOJ unwilling to provide continuous updates on illegal alien crime data?


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Mike C wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2024 7:03 pm
The fact check you cite is irrelevant. I never said the crimes happen every day.

Here's a nice of summary of the crime committed by a few of the illegals let in by the Biden-Harris border policy.

https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/increased-illegal-immigration-brings-increased-crime-almost-23-federal
A 2021 Department of Justice report revealed that 64% of federal arrests in 2018 involved noncitizens, despite them comprising only 7% of the population at that time. While the Biden administration fails to provide continuous updates on illegal alien crime data, Texas’ Department of Public Safety maintains a running database of such incidents. Other states should follow suit.

Several chilling examples underscore the urgency of the situation. Alexis Saborit, an illegal alien from Cuba with a history of violence, beheaded his girlfriend with a machete in July 2021.

In April of this year, Francisco Oropeza, deported four times in the last 14 years, was accused of gunning down five Honduran immigrants in Cleveland, Texas—including an innocent 8-year-old.

In February, Bryan Marquez, who had deportation orders but was still in the United States, brutally murdered his roommate by beating him. He was charged with first-degree murder.

In January, Jose Hernandez faced five counts of indecency with a minor after allegedly sexually assaulting a young child multiple times.

And in March of last year, Jean Macean, an illegal alien who posed as an unaccompanied minor, was charged with two counts of first-degree murder after allegedly murdering a Daytona Beach couple. Macean had previous arrests related to drug charges, which were dropped due to the soft-on-crime predilections of George Soros-backed Florida State Attorney Aramis Ayala.
Gee, why is the Biden DOJ unwilling to provide continuous updates on illegal alien crime data?
LOL...Who cares? Non-citizens comprise what....7 percent of 341 billion people? Like your "article" states?

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The U.S. has total population of 341 billion people?

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So you are fine with non-citizens committing violent crimes so long as their number of crimes are less than citizens? By any chance, do you live in San Francisco?
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As someone who was living in NYC on 9/11 and endured the horror, the willingness of the Harris-Biden regime to make a plea deal with mass-murdering terrorist sickens me.
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Mike C wrote:
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The U.S. has total population of 341 billion people?

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So you are fine with non-citizens committing violent crimes so long as their number of crimes are less than citizens? By any chance, do you live in San Francisco?
So you are fine with spreading bullsh*t lies that have no basis in fact? Oh yes, you're a Trumper. Of course you are. :roll:



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To borrow a line from Trump at last month's debate: I really don't know what you said in your last statement. I don't think you know what you said either.



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Funny, I recall Reagan getting back the 52 hostages from Iran in 1981 without paying a single thing or exchanging any prisoners. Trump followed the same approach as Robert O'Brien notes below.



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Gee, how come the Doc and Brian are not touting Joe and Kamala's handling of the KSM 9/11 deal?

Cannot wait to hear the spin on this one.

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