Clyde McPhatter Says Hello -> August 1970

[mike Edwards]

well i tell you what i have listened to 4 versions of this show and without any doubt this FTD is the BEST 1970's show i have heard for the sound mix- EVERY TRACK sounds brilliant here and would turn a non fan into an Elvis Fan because this releasze is such an enjoyable CD!

what?

[GERRY]

I took the liberty of emailing a huge Clyde McPhatter fan and got this reply:-

I have seen that video and watched it several times. I am not 100% sure if it is Clyde or not

Oh and for the record yeah i enjoyed this post and yeah personally i think it is Clyde,not 100% certain but the bridge of the nose and the bent shape etc plus other striking facial features make me decide yes

One last thing-isnt it really sad that this man had his last LP out in 1970 and it didnt chart

And Clyde passed away just 20 or so months after this after show party

He looked normal and healthy in this

What a strange world Elvis lived in,people burning themselves up fast etc

What a talent R.I.P

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[GERRY]

Just found that Clyde McPhatter moved to England in the late 1960's and stayed there for around 3 years

he performed to enthusiastic audiences of US service personnel based in the uk

Not saying he wasnt in Las Vegas during Aug 1970 though

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[Bodie]

I think this is a great thread and very interesting. It is not Clyde McPhatter with Elvis in my opinion. Anyway here are two images of Clyde if this helps one way or another I dont know.

Kevin, where have you been? Those are great photos.

Do you know exactly when or where they were taken?

There is in my opinion absolutely no resemblance to the gentleman standing next to Elvis.

Actually the many similarities remain quite evident, but your photos are actually the first piece of evidence I have seen that throws some doubt onto this subject.

It still boils down to two questions:

(1) Is that Clyde McPhatter?
(2) If not, who in God's name is it??

Well looking at the footage again im certain Elvis shakes hands with him and calls him 'Ellis' and im certain Elvis doesnt know who he is cause just before the handshake someone introduces 'Ellis' to Elvis.

[PEP]

Has anyone noticed, in these latest pictures of McPhatter, he is wearing, shall we call them Elvis sideburns.....
Who stole from who.....???
Style of the times tho,...of course.
Anyway, it would appear by looking at these pictures, McPhatter did change over the years,..... slightly, but changed just the same...One can now see, that the odds that McPhatter is with Elvis, August the 10th, 1970, is slim...
My guess, in regard's to the comment made by the gentlemen talking to Elvis, he was just a nervous guy who wanted to come up with something different or funny to say to him, and so, suggesting to Elvis, that he had done all his moves,...it was basically just a joke from a nervous man, in my opinion.
This does not say that the guy wasn't a entertainer, because, the odds are that he was, just that sadly it would appear, he is not McPhatter.
As suggested earlier, Jimmy Velvet felt he had seen the fellow before, so let's hope when I am able to get intouch with Jimmy again, he may beable to come up with, who that fellow is in the picture.
In the mean time, I just sent off the email to EPE tonight, requesting their help in the matter. Let's cross our fingers and hope they are willing to help with a list as to who attended the party or are, at least willing to come up with the name of this person.
Thank you for the photos kevinstevenage you really helped out this thread,.
I looked forever on the net and came up dry on anything on McPhatter in the 70's.
I can only guess, kevinstevenage you are the first to post these pictures of McPhatter on the net, thanks again.

PEP

[drjohncarpenter]

One can now see, that the odds that McPhatter is with Elvis, August the 10th, 1970, is slim...

Oh, dear ...

[PEP]

One can now see, that the odds that McPhatter is with Elvis, August the 10th, 1970, is slim...

Oh, dear ...

Sorry, Doc......that's the way it looks to me now, more than ever....
PEP

[stupot]

Surely one of the Sweets would know if it was Clyde McPhatter. Also, was he seated in the showroom during the movie?

[drjohncarpenter]

To The Doc
I believe they are 1970, and I am researching it further to get a date and what the photos were from ... I hope this has been of some help.

Kevin, thank you. Your kind and intelligent input is greatly appreciated. Those are superb-quality photos I have never seen anywhere else. If you have anything more to offer on this topic, I welcome it.

For now, though, I'm sticking with it being Clyde, along with Lacker, Fike, Jorgensen and several other members of this forum who have offered their generous insight.

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[mrbthebarber]

Doesn't look like Clyde to me ( WHAT a singer ) but has some resemblances to Ben E King from some angles.

[Ben]

I think you're right Chris, I can't see the resemblance at all.

Clyde master.jpg

It seems that, after 8 months of 'searching' Speedoo had the answer [to who it isn't] all along on page one of this very thread.

[drjohncarpenter]

Doesn't look like Clyde to me ( WHAT a singer ) but has some resemblances to Ben E King from some angles.

There's no resemblance, really, to the great Ben E. King. I wish there was, then this topic could be considered done.

[drjohncarpenter]

Yes, it does -- poor Clyde was a bit sad to be losing his hair.

[Ben]

Yes, it does -- poor Clyde was a bit sad to be losing his hair.

Well that's sure as hell not a toupee on the man in the footage with Elvis.

[PEP]

I think you're right Chris, I can't see the resemblance at all.

Clyde master.jpg

It seems that, after 8 months of 'searching' Speedoo had the answer [to who it isn't] all along on page one of this very thread.

Ben that is nice to know, but, not really, as there has been doubt on both sides of the fence regardless, what this ex member wrote. So...., keep in mind, what the 2 times ex member wrote, was and is, No great revelation that helped with the thread, it other word's, it meant nothing from a nothing person. Further research had to be done regardless. As it could have gone the other way too.

On another topic, EPE has now gotten back to me through their archive department. They were,.... really of No help. Whom ever replied, did try to help with a suggestion. However, the suggestion they gave, which related to a book, which mentioned a few names of who attended the party, ended No where and sadly they do not have a list of who attended the August 10th 1970 party in their archives.

I think we are somewhat, still at a stand still, I will continue to search as time goes by. If I am able to confirm who that person is, at some point I will update the thread or anyone else can, if they can come up with any new evidence too.

On a side note, I would also like to try and find out who the Elvis guy was, with Charlie Rich as well.

PEP

[walter hale]

That's our PEP He just won't leave no stone unturned.

You're a champion and a classic example of pursuing issues right to the end.


Now my friend, what about Joe Esposito that I suggested to you before?

It may well be that , in showing him the picture of the mystery man , Esposito might
remember if he's seen him around either before or after Aug 10 1970 and if before (let's say 1968 or 1969) then it has to be someone else as McPhatter was residing in England.

[Bodie]

Well as i have said in a previous post, it sounds like this guy's name is 'Ellis' so surely that is something to go on.

[PEP]

That's our PEP He just won't leave no stone unturned.

You're a champion and a classic example of pursuing issues right to the end.


Now my friend, what about Joe Esposito that I suggested to you before?

It may well be that , in showing him the picture of the mystery man , Esposito might
remember if he's seen him around either before or after Aug 10 1970 and if before (let's say 1968 or 1969) then it has to be someone else as McPhatter was residing in England.

Esposito will still be contacted again. I did try months ago, tho I do not think the message ever really got to him.
I need to try a different route....
PEP

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