Fox News - most trusted news source or......?

[ForeverElvis]

When looking to make sense of the great divide in the USA between left and right, Democrats and Republicans - we don’t have to look any further than Fox News. Ever since Roger Ailes decided to align the News division at Fox with a Political party, financially and ideologically, the divide has been growing and will continue.

This Poll indicates 65% of those polled that identify as a Republican cite Fox News as their most trusted news source.

It is frightening, their current coverage, that Fox isn’t airing the Senate Impeachment trial, they are airing their regular lineup of opinion shows with Hannity, Ingram etc .

These hosts tell their viewers about the impeachment trial instead of airing it live and letting viewers form their own point of view outside of a prism.

This explains how bad Fox News is for usa politics and how Roger Ailes will go down in history for a lot more than raping women.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/24/politics/donald-trump-fox-news/index.html


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[brian]

CNN is a very biased liberal news organization. They shouldn't be saying anyone else is biased it's stupid and laughable for them to say that. The liberal media has always been on Fox news' ass but the truth is they aren't as biased as CNN and MSNBC is. CNN annoys me with all their liberal bias. The liberal media doesn't like Fox news because they aren't completely liberal. They want everyone to be completely liberal. They want total control of the media. It's really frightening how the liberal media and the Democrats want to silence anyone who doesn't agree with their point of view. That's Nazi Germany type stuff right there. So people better be more concerned with that. I hope CNN's ratings plummet after the election. I'm tired of hearing about all the Ukraine stuff it won't go anywhere. So if Fox news doesn't want to cover it 24/7 then more power to them. For the record I'm not a Republican or a Trump supporter I just wish the media were more fair. They should tell people the truth that's what they were meant to do.

[ForeverElvis]

CNN is a very biased liberal news organization. They shouldn't be saying anyone else is biased it's stupid and laughable for them to say that. The liberal media has always been on Fox news' ass but the truth is they aren't as biased as CNN and MSNBC is. CNN annoys me with all their liberal bias. The liberal media doesn't like Fox news because they aren't completely liberal. They want everyone to be completely liberal. They want total control of the media. It's really frightening how the liberal media and the Democrats want to silence anyone who doesn't agree with their point of view. That's Nazi Germany type stuff right there. So people better be more concerned with that. I hope CNN's ratings plummet after the election. I'm tired of hearing about all the Ukraine stuff it won't go anywhere. So if Fox news doesn't want to cover it 24/7 then more power to them.

I’m Canadian and can see the news outside of the left or right prism.

This article is about a Pew Research Poll which is not affiliated with one party or the other. The numbers are very telling.

The other points I made regarding Fox are historically correct.

To rebut your post directly, Fox isn’t presenting the facts to its viewers directly, they are filtering it through opinion based programming. This way the viewer is unable to freely make up their own mind because the presentation of the facts is already bent far to the right.

CNN and MSNBC are presenting the facts to its viewers directly. (Something Fox isn’t doing) They are also presenting opinion from both Left and right points of view but do lean a little more to the left than centre.

If you want to see coverage completely unbiased either way watch the Canadian network newscasts on the Internet.

The CBC reports the news.



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[brian]

Thanks for the suggestion about the Canadian network news. I watch CNN and I can tell that they are very liberal biased with my own ears. If anyone doesn't like Fox news my advice to them is don't watch it. There are certainly plenty of other news outlets. More propaganda from the internet.

[latebloomer]

Better still, go to YouTube, search for "Senate impeachment trial", and watch the live-stream broadcasts for yourself, without anyone telling you what you ought to make of the proceedings.

Since almost all of radio, TV, and print news outlets are now owned by six -- or is it only five -- persons, there is no "liberal" news any more (hasn't been for years), and we all are seeing and hearing pretty much what those few persons want us to see and hear.

Several polls have been taken over the past several years of people who say they keep up with the news regularly, asking for factual information as readers/watchers/listeners understand it (not controversial stuff), such as (this is off the top of my head, NOT quoted), Name the cabinet offices and office holders. How many Senators are there? What states do Bernie Sanders and Lindsey Graham represent? Name ten foreign heads of state. List the countries where we have military personnel actively engaged in combat.

Time after time, the people who give the most incorrect answers to such uncontroversial, factual questions, said they were Fox viewers. That's sobering!

[FatherJack1980]

Fox News giggles at President Braindead:

[drjohncarpenter]

CNN is a very biased liberal news organization.

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CNN (Cable News Network) is an American news-based pay television channel owned by AT&T's WarnerMedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN

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Warner Media, LLC is an American multinational mass media and entertainment conglomerate owned by AT&T and headquartered in New York City.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WarnerMedia

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The liberal media has always been on Fox news' ass but the truth is they aren't as biased as CNN and MSNBC is.

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According to former Fox News producer Charlie Reina, unlike the AP, CBS, or ABC, Fox News's editorial policy is set from the top down in the form of a daily memo: "[F]requently, Reina says, it also contains hints, suggestions and directives on how to slant the day's news—invariably, he said in 2003, in a way that was consistent with the politics and desires of the Bush administration."

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Andrew Sullivan wrote of Fox that "[o]ne alleged news network fed its audience a diet of lies, while contributing financially to the party that benefited from those lies." The same is true of Sinclair Broadcast Group, which notably instructed all its local news anchors to run a conservative message in the main news segment. Its rapid growth through station group acquisitions—especially during the lead-up to the 2016 presidential elections—had provided an increasingly large platform promoting conservative views.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_bias_in_the_United_States#Cable_news

[rickeap]

Fox News is the real Fake News

[BrianTCB]

Thanks for the suggestion about the Canadian network news. I watch CNN and I can tell that they are very liberal biased with my own ears. If anyone doesn't like Fox news my advice to them is don't watch it. There are certainly plenty of other news outlets. More propaganda from the internet.

You Trump supporters are the last people on earth who should be criticizing CNN. FOX is the worst news station on the planet for exactly this reason - they manipulate the facts to suit a right wing agenda, and they don't tell the whole story. They are state-run news in support of Trump.

I get angry whenever CNN includes right-wing extremists with left-wing arguments but they are trying to show the entire picture, which I do respect at the very least. Your assertion that they only show LIBERAL is just plain WRONG. Learn how to identify fact from fiction, truth from conspiracy theory, right wing vs. left wing, and the right news sources from the wrong news sources.

And learn what is really the truth vs what is really propaganda, even if it conflicts with your views. Your assertion that FOX news sucks is propaganda is just plain wrong. This is not propaganda. It's the truth. Propaganda is the following, by the way:

Trump is innocent (not true)
Trump's actions don't rise to the level of impeachment (they DO)
Trump was exonerated by the Mueller report (also not true)

[brian]

I'm not a Trump supporter. What I am is more fair minded than the Democrats or the liberal media. I don't think Donald Trump's the most evil man in history. He's not. I pointed out a couple months ago that Donald Trump wouldn't be impeached and the allegations against him would go nowhere. I was just pointing that out. I wasn't saying that as someone that supports Donald Trump. Fox news is a right leaning network I actually think they are more conservative now than they were a few years ago. Even a few years ago liberals would gripe about Fox news though. They aren't as bad as their biased critics say they are.

[BrianTCB]

I'm not a Trump supporter. What I am is more fair minded than the Democrats or the liberal media. I don't think Donald Trump's the most evil man in history. He's not. I pointed out a couple months ago that Donald Trump wouldn't be impeached and the allegations against him would go nowhere. I was just pointing that out. I wasn't saying that as someone that supports Donald Trump. Fox news is a right leaning network I actually think they are more conservative now than they were a few years ago. Even a few years ago liberals would gripe about Fox news though. They aren't as bad as their biased critics say they are.

Trump: Lies every day. About everything. We still have not seen his tax returns.
Trump: Jails children and keeps families apart, killing them, amounting to genocide.
Trump: Kills 188 people aboard a Ukrainian jet in Iran by performing an illegal assassination of an Iranian general -- without congressional approval.
Trump: Withholds $400 million dollars of bi-partisan, congressionally-approved aid from a U.S. ally - Ukraine - who previously passed corruption checks and were entirely cleared, by the way - to help him uncover dirt against political candidate Joe Biden - and directs a complete coverup of the scheme which includes John Bolton, Pat Cippollone, Rudy Giuliani in the room with him. Entire scheme covered up by Senators who are afraid of him.
Trump: Brags about raping and sexually assaulting women, and acts proud about it. Uses $130,000 in campaign funding to pay Stormy Daniels to cover it up. Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen jailed for his role in lying about it. Trump still allowed to be President.
Trump: At least 37 Trump administration officials have faced indictment, pled guilty, or jailed for their roles in his administration to lie and cover up the Russia investigation. Lies about being exonerated when he wasn't (the Mueller report says this).
Trump: Goes after pre-existing condition protections for people to remove them.
Trump: Guts the EPA and removes all protections for clean water, etc.
Trump: Attacks congressional women of color and calls them "The Squad" in a racist attempt to deflect attention from his own wrongdoing.

And on, and on, and on.

(sarcasm) Yeah. Sure. Real standup guy you've got there. And totally not the most evil man in history. But lying about a consensual blowjob warrants removal. (end sarcasm)

[brian]

Trump: Brags about raping and sexually assaulting women.

That is false. I've heard that said on CNN several times but that's not true. Trump said that if your famous women let you grab them by the pussy. The key work is women let him. He didn't admit to raping or sexually assaulting women.

[BrianTCB]

Trump: Brags about raping and sexually assaulting women.

That is false. I've heard that said on CNN several times but that's not true. Trump said that if your famous women let you grab them by the pussy. The key work is women let him. He didn't admit to raping or sexually assaulting women.

Yeah. It's true. When 17 women accuse you, "grabbing them by the pussy" means nothing. Sure. And they "let him do it." Right. You want to perpetuate the myth that he didn't do anything, you're as bad as Trump himself and the Senators who are covering everything up.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/list-trumps-accusers-allegations-sexual-misconduct/story?id=51956410

Trump says he "never met those women". He has also said he never met Lev Parnas. Gee, there's at least 9 photos with them together, including video. Same thing with Jeffrey Epstein. But there's video. Plenty of video.

[brian]

The accusations those women made were never proven. Those accusations came up but they went away pretty quickly. That is not fact that he did those things. It did look like those women were coming out of the woodwork. I feel if any of that were true and could be proven Donald Trump would've been destroyed. He never would've been elected in the first place. Again he didn't brag or admit to doing anything.

[BrianTCB]

The accusations those women made were never proven. Those accusations came up but they went away pretty quickly. That is not fact that he did those things. It did look like those women were coming out of the woodwork. I feel if any of that were true and could be proven Donald Trump would've been destroyed. He never would've been elected in the first place. Again he didn't brag or admit to doing anything.

Dude...you're a Trump supporter. Knock it off saying you're not. Only Trump supporters say that.

"GRAB 'EM BY THE PUSSY!!!!!!!!! JUST GRAB 'EM!!!! THEY LET YOU DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!"

[brian]

No. I am not a Trump supporter. I am a sensible person who realizes that Trump didn't admit to raping or sexual assaulting women. CNN has lied about that and liberal people believe that because they want to. He said they let him. That's not bragging about sexual assaulting women. That's bragging about consensually getting women because he's famous. Brian, What you have to say could be better.

[brian]

I don't like Trump on economic or health care issues. I strongly disagree with the Republicans on those issues. I do think Trump can sometimes be classier and more measured in his comments in public. He could be more reserved in public like all the past presidents have. I just think that Trump isn't as evil as Hitler and the hatred for him by his detractors is over the top. They all act like he's the worst human being in the history of the world and the hatred for him is so strong. That's all hyperbolic and unfair.

[BrianTCB]

No. I am not a Trump supporter. I am a sensible person who realizes that Trump didn't admit to raping or sexual assaulting women. CNN has lied about that and liberal people believe that because they want to. He said they let him. That's not bragging about sexual assaulting women. That's bragging about consensually getting women because he's famous. Brian, What you have to say could be better.

No, a sensible, logical person who takes into account ALL the EVIDENCE (not just what puts Trump in a good light) agrees that he's a liar, and lies about everything. Just putting this here, again, since you ignored it and Jeffrey Epstein, and took the easiest fact to dispute (of which it's not disputed at all, except by the person who committed the assaults). Why are you so adamant about that particular topic and deflecting? Let's put these here again. Trump WILL be held accountable, and justice is a' comin'.

Trump: Lies every day. About everything. We still have not seen his tax returns.
Trump: Jails children and keeps families apart, killing them, amounting to genocide.
Trump: Kills 188 people aboard a Ukrainian jet in Iran by performing an illegal assassination of an Iranian general -- without congressional approval.
Trump: Withholds $400 million dollars of bi-partisan, congressionally-approved aid from a U.S. ally - Ukraine - who previously passed corruption checks and were entirely cleared, by the way - to help him uncover dirt against political candidate Joe Biden - and directs a complete coverup of the scheme which includes John Bolton, Pat Cippollone, Rudy Giuliani in the room with him. Entire scheme covered up by Senators who are afraid of him.
Trump: Brags about raping and sexually assaulting women, and acts proud about it. Uses $130,000 in campaign funding to pay Stormy Daniels to cover it up. Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen jailed for his role in lying about it. Trump still allowed to be President.
Trump: At least 37 Trump administration officials have faced indictment, pled guilty, or jailed for their roles in his administration to lie and cover up the Russia investigation. Lies about being exonerated when he wasn't (the Mueller report says this).
Trump: Goes after pre-existing condition protections for people to remove them.
Trump: Guts the EPA and removes all protections for clean water, etc.
Trump: Attacks congressional women of color and calls them "The Squad" in a racist attempt to deflect attention from his own wrongdoing.

And on, and on, and on.

Oh, gee, guess what? Yet another lie. Come on. Stop lying to yourself.

Trump administration reveals it's blocking dozens of emails about Ukraine aid freeze, including President's role

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/01/politics/trump-ukraine-aid-emails-omb-justice-department/index.html

[brian]

You can believe what you want. I'm not going to change anyone's mind on this forum no matter what. Using CNN as a source is a nice touch though.

[BrianTCB]

You can believe what you want. I'm not going to change anyone's mind on this forum no matter what. Using CNN as a source is a nice touch though.

This is about reading legitimate sources vs. bull sh** sources like FOX News. There's a reason why Trump supporters and people who think like you are the laughing stock of the world.

Learn a few things about real fake news vs. what the Trump camp calls fake news.

I notice you still haven't disputed any facts.

[rickeap]

Trump: Brags about raping and sexually assaulting women.

That is false. I've heard that said on CNN several times but that's not true. Trump said that if your famous women let you grab them by the pussy. The key work is women let him. He didn't admit to raping or sexually assaulting women.

Rubbish...he clearly indicates he uses his wealth and power to force himself on people. It is disgraceful that anyone could try to defend those comments.

[brian]

Not true he wasn't. If Donald Trump was a Democrat no one would say much about it. Since he's a Republican then it's Donald Trump sexually assaults women. When that's not what he meant.

[brian]

Uses $130,000 in campaign funding to pay Stormy Daniels to cover it up. Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen jailed for his role in lying about it. Trump still allowed to be President.

I don't know about him using campaign money for it. I don't know that that's been proven but the rest is actually true. What Donald Trump did was morally wrong but he won't be thrown out of office for that. A lot of politicians cheat on their wives and then deny it when they first get caught. Bill Clinton did that. Donald Trump's affair was a few years before he was president. Donald Trump is probably going to get a second term. Donald Trump has always been a philanderer.

[Mike C]

CNN and the rest of the liberal mainstream media hates Fox News (and talk radio to a lesser degree) because Fox broken the monopoly that the mainstream media once had over the presentation of the news. No longer does the New York Times set the table for which stories are covered and how they are covered by all media. And, it is the lack of conformity which drives the mainstream media into fits.

In the 80s, Ailes spotted this slant and the disconnect between half the audience in America. That was a genius move on his part which paid off in the ratings within 5 years of its launch.

Yes, the opinion shows starting at 8 p.m. each week nights are clearly conservative. But, that is no different from the editorial pages of a newspaper. But, Fox also broadcasts several straight news shows. Best example is Special Report at 6 p.m. which is what the old nightly newscasts used to be.

[BrianTCB]

Right and left is BS.

It's right vs. wrong. Nothing else. The only reason right vs. left exists is because of Trump, so they can spew more BS in support of their own fake news and their BS agenda. In the real world, you're either right or you're wrong. Correct or incorrect. There is no in-between. Learn how to live in the real world. And learn how to take being wrong. Your colleagues and family will thank you.