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Inspired by this topic...

The Golden Gate Quartet
http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=49252#p694437

... And the questions this topic evoked with me, I did a little bit of research on the net, focussing especially on French sites.


It's common knowledge that Elvis had a jamsession with the Golden Gate Quartet in Paris (somewhere between 12-16 January 1960). Lesser known - it seems - is that French singer Line Renaud was also singing along in that jam session. Here you see her singing the song "Jeremy" with the Golden Gate quartet in that same period in time (1959/1960):


JEREMY Line Renaud et le GOLDEN GATE QUARTET
posted on Youtube by yoko lele on June 10, 2012
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So some songs they sung that night, might have sound a bit like this (with Elvis' voice, and guitar sound, added of course).



From a (freely translated) article about Line Renaud, published on June 25, 2015 on elpresse.eklablog.com:
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In 1960, Elvis Presley did his military service in Germany. He went to Paris with four other friends/soldiers who joined him.

At one time in January he met Line Renaud at the Lido Show at the Casino The Paris. He followed her and her husband LouLou Gasté to her dressing room. (Louis "Loulou" Gasté (18 March 1908 – 8 January 1995) was a French composer of several successful mélodies.He discovered and launched Line Renaud, a famous French singer and actress in 1945, and married her in 1950)
1960 Martine Carol Line Renaud and LouLou Gaste - Paris.png
Gasté showed him a guitar which Django Reinhardt had played, and Elvis began to caress it and played a little. It lasted until 6 am. The musicians of the Golden Gate joined in, and Line Renaud sang along.
The Golden Gate Quartet. Paris, February 1960.png
Line Renaud and Elvis became friends, and both artists often met later in Las Vegas.


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With Line Renaud and Edward G. Robinson, July 1968 - Dunes Hotel, Las Vegas, NV*


From an interview with her in 2002. She just returned to Paris from a visit to Las Vegas:

What remains today, in your eyes, of the Elvis myth?
Yesterday I was in the US. I can assure you that we can not open a newspaper there, tune in to radio or watch TV without finding Elvis in or on it. Just as in the best days of his fame. Elvis is really still an idol. I know of no other example of such loyalty in admiration and affection.

You had, yourself, the privilege of knowing ...
I can even say with precision in what circumstance I met him. It was January 8, 1960. A date that I will not forget: it turns out that it was his birthday. He was 25 years old and arrived from Germany enjoying a permission for leave. As for me, I just began at the Casino de Paris. Needless to say I was on tenterhooks ... Thereupon an usher came to tell my husband, Louis Gasté, in the lodge there were four US soldiers, one of which looked like Elvis Presley. Loulou went to have a look, recognized Elvis and invited him to come to my dressing room, with friends, at the end of the show. And Elvis came ...

How did he come about?
Shy and discreet. He immediately noticed the guitar Loulou had standing. He fondled it and pinched a few strings. "On it I composed Feeling" said Loulou.


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At the Moulin Rouge in France. For illustration purpose only. Not taken at the meeting described!

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Django Reinhardt with (probably) the guitar Elvis played at this jam session. This is a close-up.


Elvis found himself in familiar territory and was more familiar. The Golden Gate Quartet joined us and then I got the best concert of my life. Elvis had dropped his jacket and, with the four singers of the Golden Gate, he chained blues, gospel and rock until 6 am ... It was fabulous and I will never forgive myself for not being able to save this sitting. We totally improvised. When Elvis went with his buddies, we were already friends and promised to attend the premiere of my show in Las Vegas, scheduled for late October 1963 (might be July 1968 - MFH). Promise kept ... Of course, I was also at his first show ...

Beyond the star, what impression gave Elvis as a person?
What struck me most is his kindness, his simplicity, his courtesy, his delicacy. No star for two pennies. Ultimately, I would say he was humble. He really had everything to seduce. He was handsome and impeccably dressed. And then there was this exceptional voice, this stamp, this phrasing, vocal color that ...

Until the end ?
I do not want to go there. It is true that within a few years Elvis had become unrecognizable. All I can say is that I want the doctor who trained in forfeiture. The first who prescribed drugs to sleep and others to keep awake, making Elvis a slave without a will which had lost its glamor, charm and softness. This is his fame that killed him. But I want to keep only the memory of a single singer and a very human man. It is one that remains, and will remain, at the heart of millions of fans and admirers. As mine ...

An interview with Line Renaud (probably from 2014) on French Television channel Europe1. Use YouTube subtitles in your own language to understand what is being said. In short:
Line Renaud was told during her show at the Casino de Paris that there were 4 American soldiers in the audience and that Elvis was among them. So the 4 were invited to Line's apartment after the show and stayed for the next 6 hours. When asked what she did with Elvis for 6 hours, Line replied: 'Unfortunately, I was not alone with him!' (audience laughs)

Elvis sang and played guitar in her apartment, and together with the Golden Gate Quartet who were in the house as well, they sang gospel songs. This was the only time that Elvis gave a (private) concert in France.

Line Renaud raconte son concert privé avec Elvis Presley
Line Renaud est l’invitée de Nikos Aliagas dans « Sortez du cadre » pour « La douce empoisonneuse », une fiction réalisée par Bernard Stora, le 12 décembre sur Arte.
Posted on YouTube by Europe 1 on November 28, 2014
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Line Renaud Plaisirs 1959
Line Renaud dans sa 1ère revue au Casino de Paris en 1959, spectacle qui se jouera jusqu'en 1963.
Le Golden Gate Quartet faisait partie de la revue. Translation: Line Renaud in her first show at the Casino de Paris in 1959. The show ran till 1963. The Golden gate Quartet had a part in this "revue"
Posted on YouTube by hyppolite1 on June 25, 2009
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Line Renaud and the Golden Gate Quartet.png

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Bit better quality


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Less cropped: Pierre Guillermin, Line Renaud, Hubert Rostaing (standing), Louis Gasté, Django Reinhardt


Loulou Gasté at the Cannes Film Festival with wife Line Renaud..jpg

Biography
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Nice to know:
"Pour Toi" / "Feelings"/ "Dis-Lui" : Story of a single song

In September 1956, Loulou composed "Pour Toi" ("For you") with lyrics by Albert Simonin and his wife Marie-Hélène Bourquin, for the popular singer Dario Moreno. Dario Moreno sang it in the film Le Feu aux Poudres. It was sung later by Line Renaud, and was reinterpreted in France and internationally by various singers.

In 1974, Morris Albert sang it in English and was associated as the original author in "Feelings", launched in São Paulo by Augusta Do Brazil. In 1975, Mike Brant brought it back to France under the title "Dis-Lui" ("Tell her").

In 1976, "Feelings" was a worldwide success (..)

In 1977, Loulou discovered the song was one of his own melodies and later sued Morris Albert. On 22 December 1988, a court found in favor of Loulou Gasté, and he is now officially the sole creator of the song, gaining seven-eighths of all royalties (though Albert gets the rest for his lyrics contribution).


QUESTION TO ALL
These men are no members of the Golden Gate Quartet, though some websites say they are. Does anyone know who they really are?

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BONUS


July 18, 1957 Cinemonde No.1197 - Vintage Magazine with Pier Angeli Elvis Presley Line Renaud Giulietta Masina

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Cinemonde 1957 Line Renaud.png
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* Date found in this topic published by drjohncarpenter on at May 22, 2010 3:25 am:
Elvis Says Hello To Line Renaud --> July 1968 !
http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=53203#p764427


SOURCES
http://elpresse.eklablog.com/reflexion-elvis-paris-rencontre-line-renaud-a118008106
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Qi33AwAAQBAJ&pg=PT52&lpg=PT52&dq=elvis+to+paris&source=bl&ots=A2YlQ1gi7W&sig=O4Un7BZcFi27jABnDND5RfAKoU4&hl=nl&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwitqPb3yqbLAhVCPRoKHcMBBZI4ChDoAQhfMAk#v=onepage&q=elvis%20to%20paris&f=false
https://books.google.nl/books?id=Qi33AwAAQBAJ&pg=PT88&lpg=PT88&dq=elvis+and+line+renaud&source=bl&ots=A2YlQ27m62&sig=bDDxPP8_tHuhGz5yO7KF7lSefSs&hl=nl&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQ6biS0KbLAhVLWhoKHXcCAG0Q6AEIcDAN#v=onepage&q=elvis%20and%20line%20renaud&f=false
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=781223128651796&id=532001900240588
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhTriaTugT4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMBJfxS0aHg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpO1dt9hav0&spfreload=10
http://www.moulinrouge.fr/histoire/periods/paris-entre-montmartre-et-la-place-blanche?lang=en
http://www.elvismyhappiness.com/site/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=151:mardi-12-janvier-1960-paris&catid=91&Itemid=479
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loulou_Gasté
http://www.parisenimages.fr/en/collections-gallery/11692-3-golden-gate-quartet-paris-february-1960
http://photos.lavoix.com/main.php?g2_itemId=37976
http://www.linerenaud.com/cd_dvd_livres.php
http://www.djangobooks.com/blog/djangos-pictorial-legacy-the-twa-photos/

http://starducine.com/wordpress/shop/magazine/a-to-c/magazine-a-to-c-cinemonde/pier-angeli-elvis-presley-line-renaud-giulietta-masina/
http://www.elvisturk.com/tr/Faal_esra.asp
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One word for this post Mike "SUPERB" :D


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rollinson1 wrote:One word for this post Mike "SUPERB" :D
You're welcome!

Just found this one. A nice extra:

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It's possible that Elvis was indeed in Vegas in October 1963 (after filming Kissing' Cousins) to attend the premiere of Line's opening show - as she said in the interview.
In 1959, she started a four-year run of ‘Plaisir de Paris’ for Henri Varna and then went on to perform in a Las Vegas show at Dunes from 1963 to 1965. In 1966 she returned to Paris and the Casino de Paris starring in a new show, Desir de Paris. In 1968, she returned to Las Vegas for a number of performances
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_Renaud

Opening night was on December 27, 1963 however. If you believe this site:
http://doubbletroubble.wix.com/vegasreport#!exhibit-showgirl/ciol


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French superstar singer Line Renaud opened the show. Frederic Apcar producer. (12/27/1963)

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The Dunes Sign on the Las Vegas Strip 1965


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Casino de Paris Line Renaud Dunes Las Vegas postcard


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Elvis Presley signed Postcard. Inscription reads "Best wishes to Sally". Front of the postcard is from the Dunes Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas advertising Minsky Follies. The lady pictured: Janet Boyd.
http://www.tucsoncoinandautograph.com/elvis-presley-signed-postcard-dunes-hotel-casino-vegas-p-180.html

The Casino De Paris Showroom showcased Casino de Paris, starring Rouvaun w/Karmelo, alternating w/Berl Williams/Mitch & Jillian/Jean Leocia Singers/Mogyarosis Dogs/Rudas Acrobatic Dancers/Gimma Brothers/Ruppert Bears/Rassy Pigeons/Jean Leccia Singers/Earl Green Orchestra; and Casino de Paris - All New '68 Edition starring Line Renaud/Gimma Brothers/Earl Green Orchestra/Jean Leocia Singers/Mitch & Jillian/Rassy Pigeons/Ruppert Bears. The Maitre d' was Murray Moskowitz.

Later in 1968, Casino de Paris starred Line Renaud, with Les Dollies/Russ Lewis/Mitch & Jillian/Gimma Brothers/Ruppert Bears/Rassy Pigeons/Jean Leccia Singers/Earl Green Orchestra. It was stated that Line Renaud had won the European equivalent of the Emmy. She also was awarded Le Prix Du Prestige De La France, the French version of our best actress award for her moving portrayal in the movie La Madelon. As a little girl in 1940, Renaud sang for the French, British, Canadian, and American soldiers in a sidewalk cafe owned by her parents in Armentieres. The doughboys tagged her with Nightingale of Armentieres.
Source:http://www.lvstriphistory.com/ie/dunes94.htm

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QUESTION TO ALL
These men are no members of the Golden Gate Quartet, though some websites say they are. Does anyone know who they really are?

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I guess today I solved my own question:

Elvis meets the Nicholas brothers - January 1960
http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=92053&p=1468051#p1468051

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Nice post. Some thoughts:

- Actually Elvis does not meet the Nicholas Brothers, just Harold Nicholas:
http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=92053&p=1468073#p1468073



- Some of the songs the Golden Gate Quartet released which could have been a part of their jam session are below, all have Elvis connections. Of them I'd bet the house these three were sung: "I Will Be Home Again," "Joshua Fit The Battle Of Jericho" and "Swing Down, Sweet Chariot"

1937
Born Ten Thousand years Ago

1938
John The Revelator
Rock My Soul
Bye And Bye Little Children
When The Saints Go Marching In

1941
Blind Barnabas

1943
Run On

1945
I Will Be Home Again

1947
Joshua Fit The Battle Of Jericho
Swing Down, Sweet Chariot

1949
John Saw the Wheel



- The Line Renaud information is very nice, but a lot seems to have originated on FECC, including the identification of the photos from July 1968, possibly July 2nd.

Elvis Says Hello To Line Renaud --> July 1968 !
http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=53203



- That little fellow at the Moulin Rouge with Elvis and the guitar is Italian entertainer Torrebruno, aka Rocco "Walter" Torrebruno:

Presley Having Fun In Paris -> June 14, 1959
http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31864


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rollinson1 wrote:One word for this post Mike "SUPERB" :D
Yes...Mike your topics are the best!....wonderful (and without the hassle).......now ::rocks



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drjohncarpenter wrote: - The Line Renaud information is very nice, but a lot seems to have originated on FECC, including the identification of the photos from July 1968, possibly July 2nd.

Elvis Says Hello To Line Renaud --> July 1968 !
http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=53203
Big nonsense and you know it.

From my Original Post (please, check):

* Date found in this topic published by drjohncarpenter on at May 22, 2010 3:25 am:
Elvis Says Hello To Line Renaud --> July 1968 !
http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=53203#p764427

And that date and venue information was the ONLY thing I had from that post. The rest comes from original French sites as you can see in my list with sources.


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MikeFromHolland wrote:Big nonsense and you know it.

From my Original Post (please, check):

* Date found in this topic published by drjohncarpenter on at May 22, 2010 3:25 am:
Elvis Says Hello To Line Renaud --> July 1968 !
http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=53203#p764427

And that date and venue information was the ONLY thing I had from that post. The rest comes from original French sites as you can see in my list with sources.


I like to share and learn here, but please don't ever try to ridicule my efforts again.

Thank you.
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You misunderstood my comment. What I am saying is that a lot of original information that first appear on this forum, be it via photos, articles or research, end up on other internet sites, and usually not credited as being from FECC.

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drjohncarpenter wrote:
:shock:

You misunderstood my comment. What I am saying is that a lot of original information that first appear on this forum, be it via photos, articles or research, end up on other internet sites, and usually not credited as being from FECC.

Have a nice day.

I am happy to read it was a misunderstanding from my part, I'm sorry. Let's go on inspiring each other. That's much more fun!


It's hard to check if you're right, though. It can be the other way around as well (photos from articles or research) that end up here. Unfortunately no sources are mentioned in this topic:

http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=53203#p764427

Except for the snippet from the Los Angeles Times, Saturday, June 15, 1968.

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This is an excellent topic. Line Renaud was clearly fond of Elvis. I really enjoyed her highly positive recollection of Elvis' jam with the Golden Gate Quartet. Too bad that we'll probably never hear it.


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TJ wrote:This is an excellent topic. Line Renaud was clearly fond of Elvis. I really enjoyed her highly positive recollection of Elvis' jam with the Golden Gate Quartet. Too bad that we'll probably never hear it.
In future books we won't read "Elvis had a jam session with the Golden Gate Quartet that night. We should read something like:

"Gasté showed him a guitar which Django Reinhardt had played, and Elvis began to caress it and played a little. It lasted until 6 am. The musicians of the Golden Gate joined in, and Line Renaud sang along".

In Europe (especially in France) she's a big (and still lasting) name...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_Renaud

According to her, the session wasn't recorded, taped, filmed or photographed. So we have to do it with the stories and our fantasy.

Thanks for the appreciation!

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Line Renaud has the photos of her and Elvis as well, and shares them...
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MikeFromHolland wrote:
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Line Renaud has the photos of her and Elvis as well, and shares them...

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That Las Vegas photo, and several others, may be found here:



Elvis Says Hello To Line Renaud --> July 1968 !
https://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=53203


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drjohncarpenter wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:36 am
MikeFromHolland wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:05 pm


Line Renaud has the photos of her and Elvis as well, and shares them...

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That Las Vegas photo, and several others, may be found here:



Elvis Says Hello To Line Renaud --> July 1968 !
https://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=53203

Yes, we know. The link is in my OP :wink:

The news now was that Line Renaud is now sharing this specific picture herself, on Twitter.


But thanks for the reminder, it’s a very good topic which deserves attention as well.

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MikeFromHolland wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:22 am
drjohncarpenter wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:36 am
That Las Vegas photo, and several others, may be found here:



Elvis Says Hello To Line Renaud --> July 1968 !
https://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=53203


Yes, we know. The link is in my OP :wink:

The news now was that Line Renaud is now sharing this specific picture herself, on Twitter.


But thanks for the reminder, it’s a very good topic which deserves attention as well.

::rocks


The topic has been revised since 2010, most recently just a few months ago, which is why I posted the reminder.

Line is 92 now, amazing.


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