Elvis Back In Nashville (4 cd Box Set)

[LSP-4445]

Taking away the original released versions mixed on fisc 1 was awful and also the drliberate ommision of the two duet versions of "The First Time" i myself had to source from the Acetate released versions for the sake of completeness.

I couldnt disagree more
Disc 3 is the only one I play and its my favorite…no doubt.
The duets are awful and I dont mind at all that they seems lost from the Sony vault.
FTD could release them for completeness sake but they should never be released on the main label.
Edit: should have been disc1 in the text not 3.

[elvisjock]

The duets are better left lost.

[YDKM]

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The duets are better left lost.

Whilst that is maybe true- me being a completist i want them.Temple Riser does have an "earthy" quality but Ginger Holladay was completely unsuitable.Why was Kathy Westmoreland not tried?

[LSP-4445]

Im switching between tracks from both boxes now and I must say I like the sound on Back a little better.

[steve in SC]

There's not much I can add to this topic that hasn't already been discussed, but for me it's some of the glaring, discerning of mixing choices made by Matt Ross-Spang.

Whatever happened to the drum track on Merry Christmas Baby is beyond me. Maybe Matt fell asleep at the wheel, but I'll stay away from this version forever.

The best thing about this set, for me, is the inclusion of The Lord's Prayer, Lady Madonna and I Shall Be Released and, for me, The ad lib of the one liner of I Want You, I Need You, I Love You.

Just phenomenal.

Yes, I have 2 sets and each set came with 2 completely destroyed disks. The packaging just plain sucks. And I am highly disappointed with the L p's.

I sincerely hope that for next year's, Elvis on Tour, releases, something will be done to lessen that problem.

Has anyone heard anything about an OT package for 2022 yet. I'm presuming April would be the obvious release month?

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My understanding is November 2022 just like the previous two sets in November. That would tie in with the 50th anniversary release of the movie an will also be in line with Warner's re-issue of the movie.

So Warner is re-issuing the movie in theaters or just another disc release.

[emjel]

There's not much I can add to this topic that hasn't already been discussed, but for me it's some of the glaring, discerning of mixing choices made by Matt Ross-Spang.

Whatever happened to the drum track on Merry Christmas Baby is beyond me. Maybe Matt fell asleep at the wheel, but I'll stay away from this version forever.

The best thing about this set, for me, is the inclusion of The Lord's Prayer, Lady Madonna and I Shall Be Released and, for me, The ad lib of the one liner of I Want You, I Need You, I Love You.

Just phenomenal.

Yes, I have 2 sets and each set came with 2 completely destroyed disks. The packaging just plain sucks. And I am highly disappointed with the L p's.

I sincerely hope that for next year's, Elvis on Tour, releases, something will be done to lessen that problem.

Has anyone heard anything about an OT package for 2022 yet. I'm presuming April would be the obvious release month?

Sent from my Moto E (4) Plus using Tapatalk

My understanding is November 2022 just like the previous two sets in November. That would tie in with the 50th anniversary release of the movie an will also be in line with Warner's re-issue of the movie.

So Warner is re-issuing the movie in theaters or just another disc release.

Just a re-issued BluRay/DVD from what I’ve heard although it is apparently supposed to include the original Johnny B Goode song over the opening.

[Steve]

This set earns a 4 star review in the Christmas edition of 'Record Collector' magazine.

Just before the start of Take 1 of 'I'll Be Home On Christmas Day' (remake) on CD4, track 20. David Briggs plays what seems like part of the intro to 'Son Of A Preacher Man', followed a second later by James Burton. Interesting! Was this released on the 2011 FTD 2 CD set 'Elvis Sings The Wonderful World Of Christmas'?

[elvisalisellers]

This set earns a 4 star review in the Christmas edition of 'Record Collector' magazine.

Just before the start of Take 1 of 'I'll Be Home On Christmas Day' (remake) on CD4, track 20. David Briggs plays what seems like part of the intro to 'Son Of A Preacher Man', followed a second later by James Burton. Interesting! Was this released on the 2011 FTD 2 CD set 'Elvis Sings The Wonderful World Of Christmas'?

It's a track that is also rumoured to have been attempted at American Sound in '69.

[Mona Lisa]

This set earns a 4 star review in the Christmas edition of 'Record Collector' magazine.

Just before the start of Take 1 of 'I'll Be Home On Christmas Day' (remake) on CD4, track 20. David Briggs plays what seems like part of the intro to 'Son Of A Preacher Man', followed a second later by James Burton. Interesting! Was this released on the 2011 FTD 2 CD set 'Elvis Sings The Wonderful World Of Christmas'?

It's a track that is also rumoured to have been attempted at American Sound in '69.

Yes it was .

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[Steve]

Thanks Elvisalisellers and Mona Lisa.

'Preacher Man' would have needed lyric changes for Elvis to record it. Dusty recorded guide vocals at American in September '68, then the finished master at Atlantic later. 'Dusty In Memphis' is one of my fav albums.

[Mike C]

This set earns a 4 star review in the Christmas edition of 'Record Collector' magazine.

Just before the start of Take 1 of 'I'll Be Home On Christmas Day' (remake) on CD4, track 20. David Briggs plays what seems like part of the intro to 'Son Of A Preacher Man', followed a second later by James Burton. Interesting! Was this released on the 2011 FTD 2 CD set 'Elvis Sings The Wonderful World Of Christmas'?

Yes, he does. Briggs played the same lick before take 1 of "Mr. Songman" on the Promised Land FTD.

[Dan_T]

Thanks Elvisalisellers and Mona Lisa.

'Preacher Man' would have needed lyric changes for Elvis to record it. Dusty recorded guide vocals at American in September '68, then the finished master at Atlantic later. 'Dusty In Memphis' is one of my fav albums.

There's a documentary that states she refused to sing a note at American because she was too intimidated by the musicians talking about how great, Aretha was etc.. I wondered how true that was.

[mrbthebarber]

Has anyone else got a glitch at 0.56 on MOTR, on the line "long enough...", Disc 4? It may be an original tape click or something but does sound more like a digital glitch to me... perhaps just my copy.

Just played the song via Spotify but I couldnt hear any glitch there.
And usually I hear them quickly as they are annoying in many cases….and almost 20 years later I still cant forget the one in MITM on the Nashville Marathon cd. (on all copies of the release)
Worst glitch ever and in one of my all time favorite songs.

It's there plain as day on Spotify too !! But I doubt it's a "glitch" sounds like Elvis thumped something.

Then thats why I dont hear it because it isnt a glitch

Its not a digital glitch.
it sounds like a master tape bump.or he hit the microphone on something at that time.

I think so, too.
And I'm pretty sure it's also audible on the finished master.

No, it's not on 3 of the versions I have of the finished master...

[Z0S0]

Two of the Beatles are still with us and I am sure oversee all releases. If Elvis were still here we would never have seen these tracks released with backing vocalists removed for sure.

All FOUR members are represented, George harrisons wife/widow & their son Dhani speak for George and YOKO still speaks for John - all four parties have to "OK" any & every release else it doesnt happen !

aside from this, The Beatles dont have a collectors label with 200 releases and nor do they put out every scrap, far from it - they are VERY selective - The recent "let it Be" set is a great example - They have enough material to have put out a 100 cd box set but they didnt even push it to 10 discs !

And to top it all, i get the impression The Beatles are considered far cooler than our Elvis - all these factors combined results in decent sales figures !

[Z0S0]

So, the only reason Sony/BMG have been releasing all these nice and impressive sets of CDs all these years is copyright protection? I could be wrong, but to me, it resembles a conspiracy theory. This theory is based on the assumption, that without the copyright issues, these sets and these versions of the music would not be released by the official label, right? If this is so, then why bother releasing them at all, if they wouldn't release them anyhow? This looks like circular reasoning: They wouldn't release them were it not to prevent others from releasing them. Otherwise, they wouldn't be releasing them at all.

There is no conspiracy - ITS A FACT ! all these years then NO
but the past 2-3 years yes and especially the two nashville sets and its the same reason why we will get the ON TOUR material next year, im sure ON TOUR was on the agenda anyway but its next year strictly due to the copyright issue !

Shane has explained all of this extremely well, as he said its a "use it or lose it" situation !

whether you choose to believe it or not, these two sets especially have been put out at general retail EXACTLY to protect the copyright on that material !

As for the set itself, i get the complaints but i think a lot of people invest too much emotion into some of these projects, The undubbed material sound real good to me and im quite happy with it all, its not perfect..

A huge percentage of the material is very sub standard, he never should have cut crap like "padre " - especially a mere 3 years after the NBC special and telling steve binder he'd "never cut another song he didnt believe in " ...
he certainly forgot about that statement pretty quick but this aside he sounds better to me undubbed and remixed on these 71 sessions than he ever has !
so i think its a job fairly well done !

I still think the "piano" songs are awesome and 'MY WAY' grows on me with every listen, i actually prefer it to the later live versions !

lets face it, did any of us on here even really need this set ?? but we all still grab any & every release anyway, then bitch & moan about it all!

What i find interesting is that on stage he gave some excellent performances in 1971, not so much at the beginning of the year but especially in Tahoe & most of the winter tour

[Kullervo]

So, the only reason Sony/BMG have been releasing all these nice and impressive sets of CDs all these years is copyright protection? I could be wrong, but to me, it resembles a conspiracy theory. This theory is based on the assumption, that without the copyright issues, these sets and these versions of the music would not be released by the official label, right? If this is so, then why bother releasing them at all, if they wouldn't release them anyhow? This looks like circular reasoning: They wouldn't release them were it not to prevent others from releasing them. Otherwise, they wouldn't be releasing them at all.

There is no conspiracy - ITS A FACT ! all these years then NO
but the past 2-3 years yes and especially the two nashville sets and its the same reason why we will get the ON TOUR material next year, im sure ON TOUR was on the agenda anyway but its next year strictly due to the copyright issue !

Shane has explained all of this extremely well, as he said its a "use it or lose it" situation !

whether you choose to believe it or not, these two sets especially have been put out at general retail EXACTLY to protect the copyright on that material !

As for the set itself, i get the complaints but i think a lot of people invest too much emotion into some of these projects, The undubbed material sound real good to me and im quite happy with it all, its not perfect..

A huge percentage of the material is very sub standard, he never should have cut crap like "padre " - especially a mere 3 years after the NBC special and telling steve binder he'd "never cut another song he didnt believe in " ...
he certainly forgot about that statement pretty quick but this aside he sounds better to me undubbed and remixed on these 71 sessions than he ever has !
so i think its a job fairly well done !

I still think the "piano" songs are awesome and 'MY WAY' grows on me with every listen, i actually prefer it to the later live versions !

lets face it, did any of us on here even really need this set ?? but we all still grab any & every release anyway, then bitch & moan about it all!

What i find interesting is that on stage he gave some excellent performances in 1971, not so much at the beginning of the year but especially in Tahoe & most of the winter tour

I too find it remarkable that Elvis was so good on stage in 1971 still, yet so uneven in studio. Of course there are many studio higlights also. Anyway, I am glad to have these studio sets, from 1970 and 1971.

[emjel]

Two of the Beatles are still with us and I am sure oversee all releases. If Elvis were still here we would never have seen these tracks released with backing vocalists removed for sure.

All FOUR members are represented, George harrisons wife/widow & their son Dhani speak for George and YOKO still speaks for John - all four parties have to "OK" any & every release else it doesnt happen !

aside from this, The Beatles dont have a collectors label with 200 releases and nor do they put out every scrap, far from it - they are VERY selective - The recent "let it Be" set is a great example - They have enough material to have put out a 100 cd box set but they didnt even push it to 10 discs !

And to top it all, i get the impression The Beatles are considered far cooler than our Elvis - all these factors combined results in decent sales figures !

You’ve got that right.

Top 50 YTD Vinyl Album Sales U.S.: Week Ending 30/12/2021

# 8 - 201,000 The Beatles - Abbey Road
# 29 - 111,000 The Beatles - Let It Be

Amazing numbers considering this is just for vinyl sales. Total US sales in 2021 for Abbey Road inc streaming is around 510,000 with Let It Be now over 200,000 in just a couple of months.

The song, Let It Be’ is The Beatles most profitable single to feature in the recent ‘Get Back’ documentary, with a total of 420,286,720 Spotify streams, earning them £1,445,786 in royalties.

[emjel]

If Sony did not release those unreleased Nashville recordings by the 50th year, they would fall into PD regardless of whether Sony were to suddenly decide to release them during the 52nd year. Sony could not claim copyright protection retrospectively. So if FTD decided to do a session set in 2024 for those Nashville recordings, they would have no protection against anyone else releasing the material later as they would already be in the Public Domain.

[pmp]

So, the only reason Sony/BMG have been releasing all these nice and impressive sets of CDs all these years is copyright protection? I could be wrong, but to me, it resembles a conspiracy theory. This theory is based on the assumption, that without the copyright issues, these sets and these versions of the music would not be released by the official label, right? If this is so, then why bother releasing them at all, if they wouldn't release them anyhow? This looks like circular reasoning: They wouldn't release them were it not to prevent others from releasing them. Otherwise, they wouldn't be releasing them at all.

There is no conspiracy - ITS A FACT ! all these years then NO
but the past 2-3 years yes and especially the two nashville sets and its the same reason why we will get the ON TOUR material next year, im sure ON TOUR was on the agenda anyway but its next year strictly due to the copyright issue !

Shane has explained all of this extremely well, as he said its a "use it or lose it" situation !

whether you choose to believe it or not, these two sets especially have been put out at general retail EXACTLY to protect the copyright on that material !

As for the set itself, i get the complaints but i think a lot of people invest too much emotion into some of these projects, The undubbed material sound real good to me and im quite happy with it all, its not perfect..

A huge percentage of the material is very sub standard, he never should have cut crap like "padre " - especially a mere 3 years after the NBC special and telling steve binder he'd "never cut another song he didnt believe in " ...
he certainly forgot about that statement pretty quick but this aside he sounds better to me undubbed and remixed on these 71 sessions than he ever has !
so i think its a job fairly well done !

I still think the "piano" songs are awesome and 'MY WAY' grows on me with every listen, i actually prefer it to the later live versions !

lets face it, did any of us on here even really need this set ?? but we all still grab any & every release anyway, then bitch & moan about it all!

What i find interesting is that on stage he gave some excellent performances in 1971, not so much at the beginning of the year but especially in Tahoe & most of the winter tour

But he clearly DID believe in Padre. He named it as his favourite song, alongside You'll Never Walk Alone, back in 1958 during the press conference. He references Toni Arden's version, and his phrasing very much mirrors hers. Part of that problem is that he uses her phrasing and style, but with a completely different backing arrangement to her, and the tempo on his version is quicker. But I have to say I don't think Padre is actually that bad. It's been thrown about on here for years as a representation of everything Elvis shouldn't have been recording - but he clearly loved those types of songs. He loved those dramatic numbers with the big choruses. I think he believed in them very much - just as we here before when he gets lost in Sound of Your Cry for five minutes. The songs he seemed to be singing under sufferance here are the likes of Winter Wonderland and Silver Bells.

[Mike C]

What i find interesting is that on stage he gave some excellent performances in 1971, not so much at the beginning of the year but especially in Tahoe & most of the winter tour

I wonder if that had something to do with the company of Joyce Bova.

[Rockin_John]

I finally got the set. Man it's a beauty! Weird liner notes and all!

Elvis even got away with a "f***" after Silver Bells take 2. Is this the first mainstream release where he uses the word? Talking of Silver Bells take 2, the bass on that is just G R E A T!

[eric c]

love this set and will drink from this well...often.
i ordered the vinyl set and will be spinning that gem...very soon.
just some damn good enjoyable music by the greatest song man of them all.

[eric c]

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[JohanD]

My cd copy has no faults or glue things, it's in fine condition.
However, i still do not like the way the discs are stuffed in the cardbox.

I also read somewhere before that the vinyl suffers of "noise" things.
Not on my copy anyway, it's sounds pristine perfect.

I like both sets a lot!

[DEH]

the Only reason there is a bigger demand for beatle stuff is because they have starved their fans. They rarely do anything. The Elvis people have spoiled their fans. It’s not because they are cooler or anything. I don’t know anyone that thinks the Beatles are “cool” . they weren’t cool in the documentary. They are just having their big fanfare right now.