FTD / Flaming Star - The Making Of Blue Hawaii

[Lee Wood]

Shame these and the Jailhouse Rock sessions and are packaged with books, because the sessions boxes are really nicely done and it would've been nice to have them next to the rest. Unless they're gonna put mostly released soundtrack sessions with the books as a bonus, if that is the case then I can see a Making Of G.I. Blues coming next.

Also, I really hope Jan Eliasson is not mastering the audio, Jailhouse Rock was mastered too loud and was a bit of a let down.

You have it backwards. The CDs are packaged with the book. No audio means FTD cannot green-light a book project. Sales have to be assured before committing to such a project. The value of these particular items is the history within. People, places and events are brought into sharp focus, thanks to diligent research. For some, that has great value, as context is always key to understanding what happened, and why.

For those who don't care about such things, and just want shiny discs, these releases should be avoided. No doubt a shady grey-market label will steal and repackage the audio at some point anyway.

Phew. Luckily it won't be MRS as they release their material legally, as you know. Good job you didn't malign them, eh?

[emjel]

So with 4 CD's would that mean this is a sessions set with 2 books ?
That would cancel out a lot of interest.I see no reason why they can't do this like the Making of Viva Las Vegas book/cd set.A sessions set separate from the book .Besides ,I really don't care that much about Blue Hawaii to need 2 books about it.

They are doing it like VLV - as far as I’m aware, the book/cd set will be called The Making of Blue Hawaii - the only difference is that there will be more discs because there were more songs recorded. As for two books, well I can only assume they have accessed far more material.

[emjel]

Does this mean the "Elvis on Tour" book (last mentioned for a Summer 2023 release) is delay or scrapped?

MT

Or they have probably already finished On Tour book.

Not completely as it is having to be revised that’s why there is such a long lead time.

[emjel]

Two books, if they are the usual 350/400 page books, plus 4 CDs for Blue Hawaii is likely to cost over $250 plus shipping and many cannot afford that kind of price with the cost of living problems currently happening.

If that's the kind of money they'll be asking, I'm definitely out... again. Guess I'll have to wait for the MRS music only release...

I’m working on the basis that previous single books with just one CD was around $85 and the more recent Making of JHR with two books and 3 CDs was around $210. If they keep to the same number of pages and with the big rise in print cost of 40%, plus the extra disc, I would be surprised to see them match that price.

[dougkapp]

Unfortunately I don't have much space to store this kind of material, besides being very expensive. I would really like FTD to make a simpler version of this release, like "complete sessions" in 8".
I bought the books VLV, JR, ABFT and TTWII, it is very difficult and expensive to buy Blue Hawaii and then On Tour... And still we can think that G.I.Blues can be next... "The Complete Memphis 1974"....

[Domino]

So with 4 CD's would that mean this is a sessions set with 2 books ?
That would cancel out a lot of interest.I see no reason why they can't do this like the Making of Viva Las Vegas book/cd set.A sessions set separate from the book .Besides ,I really don't care that much about Blue Hawaii to need 2 books about it.

They are doing it like VLV - as far as I’m aware, the book/cd set will be called The Making of Blue Hawaii - the only difference is that there will be more discs because there were more songs recorded. As for two books, well I can only assume they have accessed far more material.

So then you don't expect this to be a sessions set with books.A sessions set may be down the road.

[On Tape 1972]

This isn't your regular FTD release as there are again a bunch of different parties involved. This is gonna be the exact opposite of the recent Elvis On Tour Legacy release: large format, classy, jam packed with content and with a big price-tag attached.

I'm pretty sure everyone involved is aware of the downsides.

[Mike C]

For those who don't care about such things, and just want shiny discs, these releases should be avoided. No doubt a shady grey-market label will steal and repackage the audio at some point anyway.

For some reason the Madison bootleg label comes to mind.

Andy

Breathing Out Fire, aren't you, Andy?

[drjohncarpenter]

For those who don't care about such things, and just want shiny discs, these releases should be avoided. No doubt a shady grey-market label will steal and repackage the audio at some point anyway.

For some reason the Madison bootleg label comes to mind.

And . . . just like clockwork, they come crawling from the outback.

It's just your mind.

In the real world, a twenty year-old import title has zero to do with today's shady, grey market labels that:

- advertise in major market media
- use audio almost exclusively stolen from legitimate releases
- promote their audio as being restored or from newly-found tapes

And if you believe they compensate the photographic rights used in their artwork, you must also believe in unicorns.

Carry on, and we know you will.

[Lee Wood]

For those who don't care about such things, and just want shiny discs, these releases should be avoided. No doubt a shady grey-market label will steal and repackage the audio at some point anyway.

For some reason the Madison bootleg label comes to mind.

And . . . just like clockwork, they come crawling from the outback.

It's just your mind.

In the real world, a twenty year-old import title has zero to do with today's shady, grey market labels that:

- advertise in major market media
- use audio almost exclusively stolen from legitimate releases
- promote their audio as being restored or from newly-found tapes

And if you believe they compensate the photographic rights used in their artwork, you must also believe in unicorns.

Carry on, and we know you will.

and just like clockwork the old nonsense gets spewed. It seems you don't understand that a particular label that you keep knocking due to your very odd agenda, does things legally.

In the real world. most of us know that's the fact. How are your unicorns keeping?

[On Tape 1972]

For those who don't care about such things, and just want shiny discs, these releases should be avoided. No doubt a shady grey-market label will steal and repackage the audio at some point anyway.

For some reason the Madison bootleg label comes to mind.

Andy

That's totally wrong, Madison never ever took material from FTD/BMG/ Ernst or whatsoever. They alway BOUGHT their own material. It was actually the other way around. f.i. Ernst got the Boston tape from Madison ...

Ladies, please keep your postings on topic. Topics on this messageboard have the tendency to eventually go to hell. And they rarely come back.

[emjel]

For those who don't care about such things, and just want shiny discs, these releases should be avoided. No doubt a shady grey-market label will steal and repackage the audio at some point anyway.

For some reason the Madison bootleg label comes to mind.

Andy

Madison never ever took material from FTD/BMG/ Ernst or whatsoever. They alway BOUGHT their own material. It was actually the other way around. f.i. Ernst got the Boston tape from Madison ...

It could be argued that whoever recorded or filmed Elvis’ shows in the audience did so illegally, selling them on to make money at a later date.

[emjel]

So with 4 CD's would that mean this is a sessions set with 2 books ?
That would cancel out a lot of interest.I see no reason why they can't do this like the Making of Viva Las Vegas book/cd set.A sessions set separate from the book .Besides ,I really don't care that much about Blue Hawaii to need 2 books about it.

They are doing it like VLV - as far as I’m aware, the book/cd set will be called The Making of Blue Hawaii - the only difference is that there will be more discs because there were more songs recorded. As for two books, well I can only assume they have accessed far more material.

So then you don't expect this to be a sessions set with books.A sessions set may be down the road.

When I first heard about this project which must be about 18 months/two years ago, I envisaged a mirror release on the VLV book/CD set, but then it was out on hold as Ernst still had not secured the missing early takes of Can’t Help Falling in Love. Even now, I am not sure that they have been located but with so much work being out into the project, it was probably difficult to justify putting it on hold forever.

Now we know it is 4 CDs, this might be the only route that Ernst has to get it out as an all singing all dancing session release too, and to avoid duplication of a separate session release further down the line. Of course anything is possible, but somehow I feel that in the economic climate, this may well be the final release for this material which will follow the VLV set (mono album and sine demos), but with four discs also to include the whole sessions too.

[colonel snow]

Ku u I po
The demo acetate was produced at the time the movie was titled The beach boy,
But Mirisch Company and Columbia Pictures had protested over the title with the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) Title Registration Bureau, due to their respective projects, Hawaii and The Beach Boys. Hawaii beach boy would be re-titled due to the glut of similarly named projects in development, including Paramount Pictures’ Beach Pad, and Gidget Goes Hawaiian. On 12 january 1961 it was announced Blue Hawaii is the new title.



colonel snow

[Paul]

Remixed soundtrack recordings but released with what will no doubt be a very expensive book. I do wish they'd release these without the books for those who can't afford them.

[emjel]

Remixed soundtrack recordings but released with what will no doubt be a very expensive book. I do wish they'd release these without the books for those who can't afford them.

I think this is the problem with a specialist collector label where the releases don’t hit mainstream as it can restrict the numbers buying. Looking at the Sony releases from the Bob Dylan Bootleg Series in the last decade, they have released some very attractive deluxe sets in 8.5" boxes (a bit bigger than the recent Elvis ones) that not only include 4,5 or 6 CDs together with some really nice books that on average have around 120 pages and are obviously aimed at the collector, but then a more basic double CD release for those who cannot afford the expensive deluxe set and are aimed at the casual mainstream buyer.
Whilst the big FTD books are very nice to own (if you can afford them) and are produced very well, reducing the number of photos used especially the more well known ones, would not necessarily be detrimental to the book if it reduces the price.

[JEKHB]

I only care about newly discovered publicity photos (hoping)
The rest i could care less. Been there, done that.

[Mike Windgren]

Hi there!! .

Wow 4 cds? . I always thought there was audio left to complete a 3 cd set….. . Bye for now .

[tinseltown]

I didn't bought the JR set (cause the material on the CDs I already owned) which might have been a mistake on my part as it sure was great and I am a sucker of Elvis movie books( not TTWII or EOT), but I will buy this set.
Pics from BH interest me and the whole session will be the icing.
This will be my first FTD book I will buy.

[When In Rome]

Hi there!! .

Wow 4 cds? . I always thought there was audio left to complete a 3 cd set….. . Bye for now .

Perhaps the first CD is the original fourteen soundtrack album with a few extras and the other 3 CD's are the session bits and bobs?

[drjohncarpenter]

It could be argued that whoever recorded or filmed Elvis’ shows in the audience did so illegally, selling them on to make money at a later date.

It could also be argued that if one had a time machine they could've snuck into every concert and stolen the soundboard cassettes from the engineer at the arena. But that would make two idiotic debates.

[Mike C]

Hi there!! .

Wow 4 cds? . I always thought there was audio left to complete a 3 cd set….. . Bye for now .

Perhaps the first CD is the original fourteen soundtrack album with a few extras and the other 3 CD's are the session bits and bobs?

Maybe the original mono album?

I wonder if one discs will consists of demo versions of the soundtrack songs.

[vinelvis]

I'm thinking of getting this too, but money is tight right now. Do you guys think this will be available at a decent price next year or will the price of this set raise a lot like the FTD lps? I know it will be just speculation but maybe some of you guys now more than I do.

[emjel]

It could be argued that whoever recorded or filmed Elvis’ shows in the audience did so illegally, selling them on to make money at a later date.

It could also be argued that if one had a time machine they could've snuck into every concert and stolen the soundboard cassettes from the engineer at the arena. But that would make two idiotic debates.

Do you know…I always thought you were a sensible person, but this post of yours is quite revealing for the opposite reasons. Further the comment wasn’t about soundboard tapes but audience recordings.

So it doesn’t really matter how you wish to cut it, in an attempt to make some kind of diversion away from bootleg albums, but it was illegal to go in and record Elvis’ shows otherwise fans like Rex Martin would not have needed a specially designed coat to smuggle the recording equipment in to record the shows and then as soon as he got back to the U.K. started selling tapes to the fans, which funded the trip and probably future ones.

[emjel]

I'm thinking of getting this too, but money is tight right now. Do you guys think this will be available at a decent price next year or will the price of this set raise a lot like the FTD lps? I know it will be just speculation but maybe some of you guys now more than I do.

The price will be good so long as stocks do not run out - I don’t know of any situation on these kind of releases where the price would drop to make the price decent.