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New unseen (by me) '57 photo ✌🏻

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Lovely photo.



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Can anyone identify the girl or date/locate the photo?


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Mr. Craig Barr was so kind to share this photo of his mother with Elvis Presley on the public facebook page of the Elvis Presley Fan Club Luxembourg on April 23. 2023.


As we can see the photo was processed in March 1957. At the time Elvis (age 22) was making his second movie LOVING YOU at Paramount Studios in Hollywood, CA. I and several other people wrote comments and asked Mr. Barr some questions about this photo of his mother and Elvis but he didn't reply. Mr. Barr's hometown is Irvine, CA which is 48 miles or 77 km from Hollywood.

Here is the photo again, posted on Mr. Craig Barr's personal facebook page on May 10, 2021.


And again posted in a distorted 3D way by him on his personal fb page on May 14, 2023.


This time a commenter named Mary McLaughlin wrote in her comment "that's cousin Craig's mom, Sydney Mae!🥰🥰🥰"
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Nice information, and thanks for a copy of the full photo. I may have more to add shortly!

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Red Cat wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 9:48 pm
Mr. Craig Barr was so kind to share this photo of his mother with Elvis Presley on the public facebook page of the Elvis Presley Fan Club Luxembourg on April 23. 2023.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3308419406077643&set=p.3308419406077643&type=3

As we can see the photo was processed in March 1957. At the time Elvis (age 22) was making his second movie LOVING YOU at Paramount Studios in Hollywood, CA. I and several other people wrote comments and asked Mr. Barr some questions about this photo of his mother and Elvis but he didn't reply. Mr. Barr's hometown is Irvine, CA which is 48 miles or 77 km from Hollywood.


Here is the photo again, posted on Mr. Craig Barr's personal facebook page on May 10, 2021.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2789889207930668&set=pb.100007288475351.-2207520000.&type=3


And again posted in a distorted 3D way by him on his personal fb page on May 14, 2023.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3322146174704966&set=pb.100007288475351.-2207520000.&type=3

This time a commenter named Mary McLaughlin wrote in her comment "that's cousin Craig's mom, Sydney Mae!🥰🥰🥰"

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latebloomer wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:45 pm
Can anyone identify the girl or date/locate the photo?



Think I've got the likely date and location, plus a bit more, to complement the work of Red Cat.

Read on!


Craig Barr's mom Sydney is still with us at 82, and lives in Oakhurst, CA:
https://www.fastpeoplesearch.com/sydney-barr_id_G-822809080581698869

The site shows Sydney's birth year as 1941, so she's about 16 in this candid.
It also lists son Craig's birthdate as December 1957 . . . which means she got pregnant about the time she took that photo !!

The candid with Sydney also shows Elvis' 1957 Cadillac Eldorado Seville Series 62 behind them, which he'd shipped out to Los Angeles to use while making "Loving You" at Paramount Studios. Maybe to show off a bit, too.


Given Elvis' clothing, it's likely the photo comes from the day Elvis toured MGM Studios with actress Barbara Lang in mid-March 1957, perhaps Friday, March 15th. Elvis left on Saturday for Memphis. And Sydney's Irvine location back then was just a 50-mile drive to Culver City.

The first reports of Barbara and Elvis popped up nationally just days later.



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Rock 'n' roll singer Elvis Presley gets together with his new screen sweetheart, Barbara Lang, in Hollywood. They will start a movie next month. Elvis will be at the Arena here on Friday and Saturday.

Philadelphia Inquirer - Wednesday, April 3, 1957
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/174938914/



It was pre-publicity for his next film, and at least some fans were allowed to be there for photos. Lang was originally cast as "Peggy" but officially withdrew on May 2nd.




With actress Barbara Lang at MGM Studios in Culver City - (maybe) Friday, March 15, 1957

(and 16 year-old fan Sydney Barr, too)


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drjohncarpenter wrote:
latebloomer wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 5:45 pm
Can anyone identify the girl or date/locate the photo?



Think I've got the likely date and location, plus a bit more, to complement the work of Red Cat.

Read on!


Craig Barr's mom Sydney is still with us at 82, and lives in Oakhurst, CA:
https://www.fastpeoplesearch.com/sydney-barr_id_G-822809080581698869

The site shows Sydney's birth year as 1941, so she's about 16 in this candid.
It also lists son Craig's birthdate as December 1957 . . . which means she got pregnant about the time she took that photo !!

The candid with Sydney also shows Elvis' 1957 Cadillac Eldorado Seville Series 62 behind them, which he'd shipped out to Los Angeles to use while making "Loving You" at Paramount Studios. Maybe to show off a bit, too.


Given Elvis' clothing, it's likely the photo comes from the day Elvis toured MGM Studios with actress Barbara Lang in mid-March 1957, perhaps Friday, March 15th. Elvis left on Saturday for Memphis. And Sydney's Irvine location back then was just a 50-mile drive to Culver City.

The first reports of Barbara and Elvis popped up nationally just days later.



570315_w Barbara Lang_MGM_01.jpg
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Rock 'n' roll singer Elvis Presley gets together with his new screen sweetheart, Barbara Lang, in Hollywood. They will start a movie next month. Elvis will be at the Arena here on Friday and Saturday.

Philadelphia Inquirer - Wednesday, April 3, 1957
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/174938914/



It was pre-publicity for his next film, and at least some fans were allowed to be there for photos. Lang was originally cast as "Peggy" but officially withdrew on May 2nd.




With actress Barbara Lang at MGM Studios in Culver City - (maybe) Friday, March 15, 1957


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Fantastic research! Thanks Doc. I’d like to add this to Candid Central if you don’t mind, with acknowledgements and credit to you.



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paulsweeney wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 1:26 pm
Fantastic research! Thanks Doc. I’d like to add this to Candid Central if you don’t mind, with acknowledgements and credit to you.



Sure.

The date of Friday, March 15th is an educated guess. That school kids were part of the photos taken seems most likely best on a Friday.

Also, the location of Elvis and fan Sydney Barr is likely MGM Studios in Culver City, but I could not positively identify the building behind them.


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drjohncarpenter wrote:
paulsweeney wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 1:26 pm
Fantastic research! Thanks Doc. I’d like to add this to Candid Central if you don’t mind, with acknowledgements and credit to you.



Sure.

The date of Friday, March 15th is an educated guess. That school kids were part of the photos taken seems most likely best on a Friday.

Also, the location of Elvis and fan Sydney Barr is likely MGM Studios in Culver City, but I could not positively identify the building behind them.
Ok, sounds good. Thanks Doc.



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Another possibility is reaching out to Sydney Barr. The people search link I found shows a wireless phone number for her in Oakhurst, CA. The city is 46 miles north of Fresno. Maybe she could fill in more of the story about the meeting, including where and when back in March 1957.


Sydney Barr - Oakhurst, CA:
https://www.fastpeoplesearch.com/sydney-barr_id_G-822809080581698869


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