Aloha From Hawaii (Deluxe Edition) coming to streaming services August 11th

[TheKingOfMusicEP]

Looking forward to get this!

[minkahed]

I re-read the e-mail that was sent to me regarding this release, and it says three (3) remixed and mastered shows.

[elvis-fan]

Both shows on this new release are remixed. 100%

Do you have a source for that information?

[1015elvis]

Two questions: What is the point of releasing this along side the FTD version? And if so what is gonna be the difference outside of a blu-ray disc?

[steve in sc3]

I think the key word here is “beamed” to. They don’t say beamed live to. When it was broadcast in the U.S. it was certainly beamd.

[minkahed]

Looking at the press release used in some mags and above in Goldmine, it seems that Sony have now slightly re-worded their press release to indicate that all three discs have been newly remixed and remastered.
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Re-worded ?? The e-mail, (and other sites) I got had the same information listed.

[frus75]

Whatever the case, FTD charged us some money for 3 cds for a 49th Ann release and now Sony is charging less for a proper 50th Ann. Release and including a blue ray. Those are the facts. Go ahead and judge them.

No judgement necessary. If you don`t want it don`t buy it. There isn't anybody on this board and I do mean "anybody" who is going to change any release plan that FTD or Sony has. Those are the facts and they are undisputed.

????!? It was released last year and it wasn’t cheap. And one year later it’s released much cheaper and with a blue ray. It’s not an “if you don’t want it don’t buy it” situation.

[Rockin_John]

Two questions: What is the point of releasing this along side the FTD version? And if so what is gonna be the difference outside of a blu-ray disc?

1) Money
2) Probably not

[emjel]

I re-read the e-mail that was sent to me regarding this release, and it says three (3) remixed and mastered shows.

Well the two I got never mentioned it at all - it was rather vague hence the reason I suspect that many fans are questioning whether it was going to mirror the FTD release or whether the rehearsal disc was going to contain a remixed version.

This is what I received and what I have seen on a variety of sites.

RCA Records and Legacy Recordings celebrating the 50th Anniversary of Elvis Presley's monumental 'Aloha from Hawaii via Satellite Worldwide Broadcast' and top-selling double album with the release of a Definitive Deluxe Edition on Friday, August 11, 2023

RCA Records and Legacy Recordings, the catalog division of Sony Music Entertainment, will release the definitive 50th anniversary edition of Elvis Presley's monumental Aloha from Hawaii via Satellite record-setting global concert telecast/double live album on Friday, August 11.

The 50th anniversary edition of Elvis Aloha from Hawaii via Satellite - newly remixed and remastered for the occasion - will be available in a 3CD plus Blu-ray combined package as well as in 2-LP and digital configurations.

Nowhere does it mention the all important info that all three discs have been remastered.

Even as recently as today, there is this where someone is asking for a source of confirmation: https://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=115442&p=1944460#p1944445

[ForeverElvis]

Why are members here so obsessive about how many people saw the show? So unimportant people, give it a break and find something enjoyable to do today.

If according to you, it is unimportant, then why do certain parties like Sony and EPE continue to push out such ridiculous stats. Perhaps some fans have a problem with that in the same way as some fans have a problem in Billboard missing out Elvis first early hits when Billboard compile their listings of artists who have the most number ones in the Hot 100.

Billboard has always acknowledged Elvis` hits from `56 to `58...usually as some sort of (subtitle) so Billboard really does know the truth deep down. Fact is going back to the 80`s and 90`s they were acknowledging it more than ever. I tell anyone today who inquires to just pick up one of Whitburns books for the real truth.

Yet some fans still complain and do not understand why the numbers cannot simply be brought together. Whatever way you want to look at it, some fans want facts to be correct as long as it elevates Elvis, but they are not so keen on the facts being presented when it goes the other way.

What seems to get lost in the discussion on viewership is that 1 TV doesn’t mean 1 viewer.

Very common in the early seventies, not as much as in the 1950’s and 60’s, was communal TV watching. (Particularly outside of North America).

I know that the night my family watched Aloha in April 1973, there was my family of 5 and two neighbors , totaling at least 9 people. If we were a Nielsen Ratings family we would have been counted as 1.

It seems most discussions don’t include what the average family size was in various countries at the time.

Did 1.5B watch? No. Did 1B? Likely not. But more than a couple of hundred million did when average family size is taken into account.

The press release doesn't say 1bn+ watched. It said it was beamed in 1bn+ TELEVISION SETS. There simply were not 1.5bn TV sets in existence in 1973 in the countries it was beamed to. So the whole notion of it reaching that many tv sets is absolute BS. It always was, and always will be. There are only 1.7bn TV sets NOW in the world, so I doubt that even 1bn existed worldwide in 1973, let alone in the part of the world that broadcast Aloha live.

I didn’t write anything about there being 1.5b TV sets then or now. I was talking about average family size not being taken into account by discussions regarding Aloha viewership.

[emjel]

I think the key word here is “beamed” to. They don’t say beamed live to. When it was broadcast in the U.S. it was certainly beamd.

There are so many things in that blurb that are vague and open to all kinds of misinterpretation.

"Recorded live on January 12 and 14, 1973 at the Honolulu International Center Arena (capacity approximately 6000) and beamed into an estimated billion-plus television sets around the world, Aloha from Hawaii via Satellite made a new kind of broadcast history as Elvis and emerging global satellite technology instantaneously connected a major artist with his audience in previously unprecedented numbers".

So were both shows "beamed" into one billion TV sets at the same time. Or were both shows recorded and edited and later beamed into one billion TV sets. Stating that the show made "a new kind of broadcast history as Elvis and emerging global satellite technology instantaneously connected a major artist with his audience in previously unprecedented numbers" itself is misleading. There was no historic instantaneous connection with Elvis when it was screened to the US three months after the show was performed or when it was eventually screened in the U.K. nearly one year after his death.

[Kylan]

I think the key word here is “beamed” to. They don’t say beamed live to. When it was broadcast in the U.S. it was certainly beamd.

There are so many things in that blurb that are vague and open to all kinds of misinterpretation.

"Recorded live on January 12 and 14, 1973 at the Honolulu International Center Arena (capacity approximately 6000) and beamed into an estimated billion-plus television sets around the world, Aloha from Hawaii via Satellite made a new kind of broadcast history as Elvis and emerging global satellite technology instantaneously connected a major artist with his audience in previously unprecedented numbers".

So were both shows "beamed" into one billion TV sets at the same time. Or were both shows recorded and edited and later beamed into one billion TV sets. Stating that the show made "a new kind of broadcast history as Elvis and emerging global satellite technology instantaneously connected a major artist with his audience in previously unprecedented numbers" itself is misleading. There was no historic instantaneous connection with Elvis when it was screened to the US three months after the show was performed or when it was eventually screened in the U.K. nearly one year after his death.

If you got as excercised about the Blue Hawaii cd set being heavy edited as you do the pub from Aloha then we might be making some progress! But then again your priorities are elsewhere. Cough cough

[emjel]

Why are members here so obsessive about how many people saw the show? So unimportant people, give it a break and find something enjoyable to do today.

If according to you, it is unimportant, then why do certain parties like Sony and EPE continue to push out such ridiculous stats. Perhaps some fans have a problem with that in the same way as some fans have a problem in Billboard missing out Elvis first early hits when Billboard compile their listings of artists who have the most number ones in the Hot 100.

Billboard has always acknowledged Elvis` hits from `56 to `58...usually as some sort of (subtitle) so Billboard really does know the truth deep down. Fact is going back to the 80`s and 90`s they were acknowledging it more than ever. I tell anyone today who inquires to just pick up one of Whitburns books for the real truth.

Yet some fans still complain and do not understand why the numbers cannot simply be brought together. Whatever way you want to look at it, some fans want facts to be correct as long as it elevates Elvis, but they are not so keen on the facts being presented when it goes the other way.

What seems to get lost in the discussion on viewership is that 1 TV doesn’t mean 1 viewer.

Very common in the early seventies, not as much as in the 1950’s and 60’s, was communal TV watching. (Particularly outside of North America).

I know that the night my family watched Aloha in April 1973, there was my family of 5 and two neighbors , totaling at least 9 people. If we were a Nielsen Ratings family we would have been counted as 1.

It seems most discussions don’t include what the average family size was in various countries at the time.

Did 1.5B watch? No. Did 1B? Likely not. But more than a couple of hundred million did when average family size is taken into account.

The press release doesn't say 1bn+ watched. It said it was beamed in 1bn+ TELEVISION SETS. There simply were not 1.5bn TV sets in existence in 1973 in the countries it was beamed to. So the whole notion of it reaching that many tv sets is absolute BS. It always was, and always will be. There are only 1.7bn TV sets NOW in the world, so I doubt that even 1bn existed worldwide in 1973, let alone in the part of the world that broadcast Aloha live.

I didn’t write anything about there being 1.5b TV sets then or now. I was talking about average family size not being taken into account by discussions regarding Aloha viewership.

So are you talking about the approximate 200 million who watched it live in the Pacific region when you write "more than a couple of hundred million did when average family size is taken into account".

[emjel]

I think the key word here is “beamed” to. They don’t say beamed live to. When it was broadcast in the U.S. it was certainly beamd.

There are so many things in that blurb that are vague and open to all kinds of misinterpretation.

"Recorded live on January 12 and 14, 1973 at the Honolulu International Center Arena (capacity approximately 6000) and beamed into an estimated billion-plus television sets around the world, Aloha from Hawaii via Satellite made a new kind of broadcast history as Elvis and emerging global satellite technology instantaneously connected a major artist with his audience in previously unprecedented numbers".

So were both shows "beamed" into one billion TV sets at the same time. Or were both shows recorded and edited and later beamed into one billion TV sets. Stating that the show made "a new kind of broadcast history as Elvis and emerging global satellite technology instantaneously connected a major artist with his audience in previously unprecedented numbers" itself is misleading. There was no historic instantaneous connection with Elvis when it was screened to the US three months after the show was performed or when it was eventually screened in the U.K. nearly one year after his death.

If you got as excercised about the Blue Hawaii cd set being heavy edited as you do the pub from Aloha then we might be making some progress! But then again your priorities are elsewhere. Cough cough

If I got as excercised about the Blue Hawaii CD set being heavily edited? What are you rambling on about.

[Kylan]

I think the key word here is “beamed” to. They don’t say beamed live to. When it was broadcast in the U.S. it was certainly beamd.

There are so many things in that blurb that are vague and open to all kinds of misinterpretation.

"Recorded live on January 12 and 14, 1973 at the Honolulu International Center Arena (capacity approximately 6000) and beamed into an estimated billion-plus television sets around the world, Aloha from Hawaii via Satellite made a new kind of broadcast history as Elvis and emerging global satellite technology instantaneously connected a major artist with his audience in previously unprecedented numbers".

So were both shows "beamed" into one billion TV sets at the same time. Or were both shows recorded and edited and later beamed into one billion TV sets. Stating that the show made "a new kind of broadcast history as Elvis and emerging global satellite technology instantaneously connected a major artist with his audience in previously unprecedented numbers" itself is misleading. There was no historic instantaneous connection with Elvis when it was screened to the US three months after the show was performed or when it was eventually screened in the U.K. nearly one year after his death.

If you got as excercised about the Blue Hawaii cd set being heavy edited as you do the pub from Aloha then we might be making some progress! But then again your priorities are elsewhere. Cough cough

If I got as excercised about the Blue Hawaii CD set being heavily edited? What are you rambling on about.

The cds from the Blue Hawaii sessions with the big book by David and Pal. Those are missing bits and even dialogue that was on the Blue Hawaii classic album ftd.

[emjel]

I think the key word here is “beamed” to. They don’t say beamed live to. When it was broadcast in the U.S. it was certainly beamd.

There are so many things in that blurb that are vague and open to all kinds of misinterpretation.

"Recorded live on January 12 and 14, 1973 at the Honolulu International Center Arena (capacity approximately 6000) and beamed into an estimated billion-plus television sets around the world, Aloha from Hawaii via Satellite made a new kind of broadcast history as Elvis and emerging global satellite technology instantaneously connected a major artist with his audience in previously unprecedented numbers".

So were both shows "beamed" into one billion TV sets at the same time. Or were both shows recorded and edited and later beamed into one billion TV sets. Stating that the show made "a new kind of broadcast history as Elvis and emerging global satellite technology instantaneously connected a major artist with his audience in previously unprecedented numbers" itself is misleading. There was no historic instantaneous connection with Elvis when it was screened to the US three months after the show was performed or when it was eventually screened in the U.K. nearly one year after his death.

If you got as excercised about the Blue Hawaii cd set being heavy edited as you do the pub from Aloha then we might be making some progress! But then again your priorities are elsewhere. Cough cough

If I got as excercised about the Blue Hawaii CD set being heavily edited? What are you rambling on about.

The cds from the Blue Hawaii sessions with the big book by David and Pal. Those are missing bits and even dialogue that was on the Blue Hawaii classic album ftd.

Oh okay….if you say so. Not sure what that has to do with Sony’s marketing blurb for Aloha though.

[ElvisNZ]

Quite frankly we are having this discussion again because many Elvis fans purchase product releases regardless.
I dont
My opinion is this release is aimed at the "new Elvis fan" and the "Completist Elvis fan" after the success of
the movie Elvis last year
Like some I passed on FTD simply because I suspected Aloha had to be a main label release for its 50th anniversary
But I would like to see that the "complete shows of both the main show and the rehearsal are released in its entirety"
PLUS that the product is released without errors - in other words all material published is checked and someone that
has knowledge listens to the audio does a sound check and makes sure there are no speed issues
Anyone that believes BLU RAY will be a major visual upgrade is dreaming due to the videotape recording it would have
been a different situation if that shows were filmed
So I am actually going to wait and see when the product is reviewed as to its quality before I will consider any purchase

[Mike Windgren]

Hi there!! .

Get it here for $17.49 or 16 euros + shipping.
https://imusic.co/music/0196588019524/elvis-presley-2023-aloha-from-hawaii-via-satellite-cd

Thanks!. At that price SONY will sell this release like candies, loads of them! . Bye for now .

[pmp]

Why are members here so obsessive about how many people saw the show? So unimportant people, give it a break and find something enjoyable to do today.

If according to you, it is unimportant, then why do certain parties like Sony and EPE continue to push out such ridiculous stats. Perhaps some fans have a problem with that in the same way as some fans have a problem in Billboard missing out Elvis first early hits when Billboard compile their listings of artists who have the most number ones in the Hot 100.

Billboard has always acknowledged Elvis` hits from `56 to `58...usually as some sort of (subtitle) so Billboard really does know the truth deep down. Fact is going back to the 80`s and 90`s they were acknowledging it more than ever. I tell anyone today who inquires to just pick up one of Whitburns books for the real truth.

Yet some fans still complain and do not understand why the numbers cannot simply be brought together. Whatever way you want to look at it, some fans want facts to be correct as long as it elevates Elvis, but they are not so keen on the facts being presented when it goes the other way.

What seems to get lost in the discussion on viewership is that 1 TV doesn’t mean 1 viewer.

Very common in the early seventies, not as much as in the 1950’s and 60’s, was communal TV watching. (Particularly outside of North America).

I know that the night my family watched Aloha in April 1973, there was my family of 5 and two neighbors , totaling at least 9 people. If we were a Nielsen Ratings family we would have been counted as 1.

It seems most discussions don’t include what the average family size was in various countries at the time.

Did 1.5B watch? No. Did 1B? Likely not. But more than a couple of hundred million did when average family size is taken into account.

The press release doesn't say 1bn+ watched. It said it was beamed in 1bn+ TELEVISION SETS. There simply were not 1.5bn TV sets in existence in 1973 in the countries it was beamed to. So the whole notion of it reaching that many tv sets is absolute BS. It always was, and always will be. There are only 1.7bn TV sets NOW in the world, so I doubt that even 1bn existed worldwide in 1973, let alone in the part of the world that broadcast Aloha live.

I didn’t write anything about there being 1.5b TV sets then or now. I was talking about average family size not being taken into account by discussions regarding Aloha viewership.

But we have been discussing the lie on the press release.

[Sebitomi6]

I have to say that I share the views of those who complain about FTD. First, let us not forget that FTD is made for fans, with special products not available in the mainstream market. It is therefore surprising that they choosed to release Aloha last year and the Madison square guarden set this year. Nevertheless, as I read right on this forum that the sound on the Aloha set was greatly improved, I eventually decided to buy it... two months ago. Personnaly, I was not impressed by the new remix and it certainly did not justify the high price that was asked. Much to my disapointment, I also received the set, ordered from Elvis matters, with the cover damaged. Anyway, I skipped, for that reason, the MSG set. And now we learn that Sony shall release the same set (perhaps even with both shows remixed instead of one) with a blu-ray which shall include all shows + the rehearsals. I must add that the main reason why I eventually decided to buy the FTD set was the presence, for the first time ever, of the complete after the show rehearsals. Now, these shall also be available on the new Sony set. What's the point to have bought the FTD set at such a high price when Sony release the same set, with the additional blu-ray, at a better price? It is very cynical, to say the least. I really feel ripped off by the FTD team. As some have said, it is not a "if you don't want it, don't buy it" thing. It is rather a "we have screwed you" thing. Lesson: FTD is no longer a dream for collectors with exclusive stuff. It has become an anticipation of what should or not be later released for the mainstream market and a way to simply make more money without putting to much effort on it. Granted, they have done that before: many shows from 1969 were first released on FTD and then released by Sony on the extensive 1969 Vegas set. But the release by Sony was years later after the FTDs came out, on the one hand, and at that time FTDs were not as expensive as they are now, on the other.
To sum up, we were really taken for idiots here.

[sweetangeline]

Whatever the case, FTD charged us some money for 3 cds for a 49th Ann release and now Sony is charging less for a proper 50th Ann. Release and including a blue ray. Those are the facts. Go ahead and judge them.

No judgement necessary. If you don`t want it don`t buy it. There isn't anybody on this board and I do mean "anybody" who is going to change any release plan that FTD or Sony has. Those are the facts and they are undisputed.

????!? It was released last year and it wasn’t cheap. And one year later it’s released much cheaper and with a blue ray. It’s not an “if you don’t want it don’t buy it” situation.

...just in case you missed it

[Mike Windgren]

Hi there!! .

At this stage of my life, with space problems at home with the ever growing music collection, if the video quality is at least the same or slightly better than the old video release and has improved audio, I´ll be pleased. I´ll have a former old 2 dvd set in just one Bluray disc! . The old dvd set will be a gift for a family member or sold on the on-line markets.

By the way, don´t know if the booklet in the new set will have some duplicate info or pictures, but the fact is that the former FTD release has 23 pages and the new SONY release will have 28 pages. The new liner notes will be done by a different music critic too, on FTD it was "Alan Hannson" and on SONY it will be a different person "Randy Lewis".

So there are some improvements on the SONY release compared to the FTD one. !6 euros wouldn´t do any harm at least in my pocket!. Bye for now .

P.S: The only regret I´ve with this new SONY set is that the two 1972 press conferences looks like it won´t be included.... , at the end I´ll have to decide to keep or not the old dvd set! .

[Sebitomi6]

I have to say that I share the views of those who complain about FTD. First, let us not forget that FTD is made for fans, with special products not available in the mainstream market. It is therefore surprising that they choosed to release Aloha last year and the Madison square guarden set this year. Nevertheless, as I read right on this forum that the sound on the Aloha set was greatly improved, I eventually decided to buy it... two months ago. Personnaly, I was not impressed by the new remix and it certainly did not justify the high price that was asked. Much to my disapointment, I also received the set, ordered from Elvis matters, with the cover damaged. Anyway, I skipped, for that reason, the MSG set. And now we learn that Sony shall release the same set (perhaps even with both shows remixed instead of one) with a blu-ray which shall include all shows + the rehearsals. I must add that the main reason why I eventually decided to buy the FTD set was the presence, for the first time ever, of the complete after the show rehearsals. Now, these shall also be available on the new Sony set. What's the point to have bought the FTD set at such a high price when Sony release the same set, with the additional blu-ray, at a better price? It is very cynical, to say the least. I really feel ripped off by the FTD team. As some have said, it is not a "if you don't want it, don't buy it" thing. It is rather a "we have screwed you" thing. Lesson: FTD is no longer a dream for collectors with exclusive stuff. It has become an anticipation of what should or not be later released for the mainstream market and a way to simply make more money without putting too much effort on it. Granted, they have done that before: many shows from 1969 were first released on FTD and then released by Sony on the extensive 1969 Vegas set. But the release by Sony was years later after the FTDs came out, on the one hand, and at that time FTDs were not as expensive as they are now, on the other.
To sum up, we were really taken for idiots here.

[Mike Windgren]

Hi there!! .

What's the point to have bought the FTD set at such a high price when Sony release the same set, with the additional blu-ray, at a better price? It is very cynical, to say the least. in 20I really feel ripped off by the FTD team.To sum up, we were really taken for idiots here.

In my opinion it was a startegic move on FTD to release the Aloha From Hawaii set in 2022, they just knew that a SONY 2023 release was coming soon after.... We have been asking for Madison Square Garden & Aloha From Hawaii FTD releases for many years to complete our collections, no we have them . Bye for now .

[emjel]

Hi there!! .

What's the point to have bought the FTD set at such a high price when Sony release the same set, with the additional blu-ray, at a better price? It is very cynical, to say the least. in 20I really feel ripped off by the FTD team.To sum up, we were really taken for idiots here.

In my opinion it was a startegic move on FTD to release the Aloha From Hawaii set in 2022, they just knew that a SONY 2023 release was coming soon after.... We have been asking for Madison Square Garden & Aloha From Hawaii FTD releases for many years to complete our collections, no we have them . Bye for now .

I’m not sure “strategic move” are the words I would use especially as Ernst has advocated in the past that he would not release or approve of album releases whereby fans would have to buy a new album just to get one or two new things.