Aloha From Hawaii (Deluxe Edition) coming to streaming services August 11th

[emjel]

I see Sony are still writing the usual crap in the booklet about the programme being beamed around the world and being watched by over a billion people. You’d think that Ernst would have a word with someone at Sony.

i guess All You Need Is Love broadcast of 400 million can't be true must have been less than that

You can guess what ever turns you on - I have no idea and neither do you, but at least Our World was broadcast via 4 satellites around the world whereas Aloha only had the facility of using one, which we know was only capable of reaching parts of Australia, Japan/ the Pacific region whilst Elvis was performing. Quite why some fans have a problem with that is anyone’s guess, but no doubt it’s because it shatters the myth that has been going around for the last 50 years.

You can guess what ever turns you on, 400 million way to high

Then I guess you’d have to substantiate that if you’re attempting to prove something, but I suspect you can’t. But I suppose you give it your best shot if you’re that needy.

that applies to you, you bring up the figures can't be true

I’m not that bothered in all honesty and whether it was 200 million, 300 million or 400 million. Figures given are estimates but It’s not something that continually gets pitched to all and sundry. The fact remains that Our World was broadcast as it happened around the world via 4 satellites and Aloha wasn’t.

But this is what it is saying in the latest booklet "..the concert was initially beamed around the globe, reaching an audience estimated at more than one billion people at the time". But it wasn’t - it wasn’t beamed around the globe at the time of the show and it did not have an audience if over one billion people - and evidence has shown that the numbers etc are simply mythical. It really is as simple as that.

All those stats are incorrect.

The audience viewership was 2 Billion, not 1 !!!

Y’all need to get that str8.

Wait, wait, wait. I read somewhere that the viewership was closer to 2.95 billion. What are we to believe now??

That puts a complete hole in your earlier calcs based on your extensive 58 second research earlier then if it's jumped that high. .I did some research in my office the day after the show on the 14th Jan '73 and out of 38 work colleagues, not one person watched it the previous day. And our neighbours on each side of us didn't watch it either, so not sure how that stacks up against all that earlier number crunching and mirroring with friends and familes and neighbours around the county and across the country. Perhaps there was a nationwide power failure.

[Paul Allen]

I see Sony are still writing the usual crap in the booklet about the programme being beamed around the world and being watched by over a billion people. You’d think that Ernst would have a word with someone at Sony.

i guess All You Need Is Love broadcast of 400 million can't be true must have been less than that

You can guess what ever turns you on - I have no idea and neither do you, but at least Our World was broadcast via 4 satellites around the world whereas Aloha only had the facility of using one, which we know was only capable of reaching parts of Australia, Japan/ the Pacific region whilst Elvis was performing. Quite why some fans have a problem with that is anyone’s guess, but no doubt it’s because it shatters the myth that has been going around for the last 50 years.

You can guess what ever turns you on, 400 million way to high

Then I guess you’d have to substantiate that if you’re attempting to prove something, but I suspect you can’t. But I suppose you give it your best shot if you’re that needy.

that applies to you, you bring up the figures can't be true

I’m not that bothered in all honesty and whether it was 200 million, 300 million or 400 million. Figures given are estimates but It’s not something that continually gets pitched to all and sundry. The fact remains that Our World was broadcast as it happened around the world via 4 satellites and Aloha wasn’t.

But this is what it is saying in the latest booklet "..the concert was initially beamed around the globe, reaching an audience estimated at more than one billion people at the time". But it wasn’t - it wasn’t beamed around the globe at the time of the show and it did not have an audience if over one billion people - and evidence has shown that the numbers etc are simply mythical. It really is as simple as that.

All those stats are incorrect.

The audience viewership was 2 Billion, not 1 !!!

Y’all need to get that str8.

Wait, wait, wait. I read somewhere that the viewership was closer to 2.95 billion. What are we to believe now??

That puts a complete hole in your earlier calcs based on your extensive 58 second research earlier then if it's jumped that high. .I did some research in my office the day after the show on the 14th Jan '73 and out of 38 work colleagues, not one person watched it the previous day. And our neighbours on each side of us didn't watch it either, so not sure how that stacks up against all that earlier number crunching and mirroring with friends and familes and neighbours around the county and across the country. Perhaps there was a nationwide power failure.

Wouldn't it be amazing if we found out (somehow) that only
278 people actually watched the live "worldwide" broadcast on January 14, 1973!!

The other billion (or so) people had fallen asleep in their chairs and missed the entire event!

Okay... enough of this silliness for me...

[pmp]

I have to say that, after listening to both shows today, this is certainly the best they have sounded - although one has to wonder why it's taken fifty years and several remixes to get here. There is much more of a sense of occasion in the new mixes, thanks to being able to hear more interaction between audience and singer. Elvis still isn't in great form, but it makes these shows far more listenable.

None of that excuses the crappy blu ray presentation. There's no excuse for something of that quality being issued.

[TheKingOfMusicEP]

Is there any advertising outside the Elvis Fan world about this Aloha release in the USA or UK from Sony or others involved?
This one is not expensive and should be more popular also outside the fan world.
It is a document about a TV Special that made history. As a single Performer (even it was not shown by the same time) never again that many people turned on the TV to see one man singing.
For me Aloha is the ultimate highlight of Elvis as the king of music (even he did not like the title).
He had made is fantastic 1968 TV Special, than That´s the Way it is, followed by Elvis On Tour and than this worldwide TV Speccial with a multi million selling album.

[John Coctostan]

As has been highlighted by others, the blu-ray presentation is diabolical....is it any wonder the grey market/bootleg labels do so well?
How is it possible a commercial outfit like Sony can cock something up this badly?! I guess they know that most Elvis fans will accept such slipshod product.
I'll be returning the 'deluxe' set on Monday and enjoy the new mixes via Spotify.

[pmp]

As has been highlighted by others, the blu-ray presentation is diabolical....is it any wonder the grey market/bootleg labels do so well?
How is it possible a commercial outfit like Sony can cock something up this badly?! I guess they know that most Elvis fans will accept such slipshod product.
I'll be returning the 'deluxe' set on Monday and enjoy the new mixes via Spotify.

I was tempted!

[pmp]

Is there any advertising outside the Elvis Fan world about this Aloha release in the USA or UK from Sony or others involved?
This one is not expensive and should be more popular also outside the fan world.
It is a document about a TV Special that made history. As a single Performer (even it was not shown by the same time) never again that many people turned on the TV to see one man singing.
For me Aloha is the ultimate highlight of Elvis as the king of music (even he did not like the title).
He had made is fantastic 1968 TV Special, than That´s the Way it is, followed by Elvis On Tour and than this worldwide TV Speccial with a multi million selling album.

Why would there be any big advertising? There is NOTHING here that hasn't been seen or heard before. The Aloha special has been on CD in 1989, 1998, 2013, 2022 and 2023. This is the fourth version of the Alternate show to be released on CD. The post-concert material was released on FTD last year, and much of it was available previously.

The only thing new is the worst visual presentation of the concert probably in the home video era.

[L Ray]

First, no problem with Amazon where I live. My package arrived an hour ago with zero damage to what I paid for. Second, the blu-ray has improved with brighter colors more definition than the dvd versions and sound quality is terrific. I didn’t expect this to look like Viva Las Vegas. After watching 10 minutes I realized that it is what I hoped for. Tomorrow I’ll have lots of time to listen to the wonderful cds and watch more of the Blu-ray.

[elvis-fan]

First, no problem with Amazon where I live. My package arrived an hour ago with zero damage to what I paid for. Second, the blu-ray has improved with brighter colors more definition than the dvd versions and sound quality is terrific. I didn’t expect this to look like Viva Las Vegas. After watching 10 minutes I realized that it is what I hoped for. Tomorrow I’ll have lots of time to listen to the wonderful cds and watch more of the Blu-ray.

Same... and I paid $38CDN (about 28USD) for the LP so I figured I wouldn't bother cancelling my order... my arrived together this afternoon... well packed and undamaged. But I still wanna punch a baby over the audio on the LP...

[Kylan]

First, no problem with Amazon where I live. My package arrived an hour ago with zero damage to what I paid for. Second, the blu-ray has improved with brighter colors more definition than the dvd versions and sound quality is terrific. I didn’t expect this to look like Viva Las Vegas. After watching 10 minutes I realized that it is what I hoped for. Tomorrow I’ll have lots of time to listen to the wonderful cds and watch more of the Blu-ray.

I guess you got a different set than these beautiful rays of sunshine moaning about the diabolical video presentation. •SMH•

[elvis-fan]

Yes, that's correct. The new CD set, including CD 1-3, and the LP were mastered by Vic Anesini according to the credits.

The question remains, whether the LP uses Vic Anesini's 2013 Mastering, that was used for the Music On Vinyl 4 LP, or if Vic Anesini did a new 2023 remastering of the old mix, especially for the new LP. I doubt it, but tomorrow I will listen to it.

That's why alfredotcb is asking about the sound of the LP, not about the mix.

I just listened to See See Rider on the new LP and it's definitely the original mix... for example, James' lead is in the center on the LP and on the new FTD it's panned to the right (I haven't listened to the Legacy set yet)... also the brass is way more pronounced in the original mix. What a shame...

I watched about 30 minutes of the main show on the blu ray and it left me shaking my head...

[Mike in New Jersey]

Yes, that's correct. The new CD set, including CD 1-3, and the LP were mastered by Vic Anesini according to the credits.

The question remains, whether the LP uses Vic Anesini's 2013 Mastering, that was used for the Music On Vinyl 4 LP, or if Vic Anesini did a new 2023 remastering of the old mix, especially for the new LP. I doubt it, but tomorrow I will listen to it.

That's why alfredotcb is asking about the sound of the LP, not about the mix.

I just listened to See See Rider on the new LP and it's definitely the original mix... for example, James' lead is in the center on the LP and on the new FTD it's panned to the right (I haven't listened to the Legacy set yet)... also the brass is way more pronounced in the original mix. What a shame...

I watched about 30 minutes of the main show on the blu ray and it left me shaking my head...

What was it specifically that left you shaking your head? I ask because...

I got a copy of the set today, for a great price too (free, as a gift. As I was told, "You would've caved a couple of months down the line and bought it anyway". LOL, yeah, probably.)

Packaging-wise, it's a step up from the FTD. It looks overall nicer as a package. I listened to select songs from the rehearsal show, and it is better than the previous mix of that show featured on the FTD. The MRS mix here has the best qualities of the 1987/88 (?) Alternate Aloha mix (mostly Ronnie Tutt's pounding drums), but also has great instrument separation and ambiance. It sounds better to my ears than the main show. I wonder if the rehearsal show was simply recorded better than the main show? The main show still sounds a bit "flat" in comparison, to my ears.

I also took a few minutes to give the Blu ray, a quick check. I didn't see any of the frame rate issues others have mentioned (perhaps check the upscaling settings on your respective player, which can occasionally do strange things when upscaling SD or 1080p video, if you are playing it on a 4k player). Having said that, a quick A-B of a few scenes reveals no significant improvement between the 2. I'll be keeping the Deluxe DVD set since it does have the actual Aloha show on it and Elvis' arrival, which is a nice time capsule moment.

[DanTCB]

Thanks to the wonderful definition of blu-ray we now know that Elvis was in fact badly sunburnt.

This is how it is on my pc and tv anyway. Elvis' face is oddly red on the blu-ray.

aloha-from-hawaii-red.jpg

[minkahed]

I picked up the vinyl version today, but never got around to opening it and giving it a spin. I’ll be home tomorrow so I will do just that.

[Mike in New Jersey]

Thanks to the wonderful definition of blu-ray we now know that Elvis was in fact badly sunburnt.

This is how it is on my pc and tv anyway. Elvis' face is oddly red on the blu-ray.

His tan does appear to be a bit deeper in the Blu. I chalk that up to, perhaps a bit of color boosting. Looking at the DVDs though, his tan is pretty dark there too. The Blu Ray makes him look like he has heavy TV makeup on.

[emjel]

Is there any advertising outside the Elvis Fan world about this Aloha release in the USA or UK from Sony or others involved?
This one is not expensive and should be more popular also outside the fan world.
It is a document about a TV Special that made history. As a single Performer (even it was not shown by the same time) never again that many people turned on the TV to see one man singing.
For me Aloha is the ultimate highlight of Elvis as the king of music (even he did not like the title).
He had made is fantastic 1968 TV Special, than That´s the Way it is, followed by Elvis On Tour and than this worldwide TV Speccial with a multi million selling album.

Sony will not be spending extra money outside of their awareness emails on marketing this as they will not have the budget to do it. It will get picked up by the press but that’s going to be about it. The public are no more interested in this release, which as mentioned offers nothing new apart from remixes, than they were for the On Tour set, which at least offered three unreleased shows. The main show and rehearsal have been out so many times that any member of the public who still own say the Legacy set from 2013 and the deluxe DVD set are not going to be too bothered about this. It’ll will probably pick up sales from new fans following Baz’s movie who don’t own a copy but it’s not going to be anything mind blowing and the main show is likely to get streamed more which will affect physical sales.

And I think you overestimate the public’s perception of this show 50 years after the event and the fact it was not broadcast around the world when it happened lessened any impact it might have got. Also, it was the event rather than the show that got the attention. The show itself didn’t or doesn’t stand out any more than any other show Elvis performed up to that time - it could have been a regular show performed in Vegas or Tuscaloosa. Yes, he was in great voice most of the time, which he generally was at most shows he performed at, but it doesn’t mean anything to them today in the same way that Live Aid or Rod Stewart performing in front of over 3 million people in 1994 doesn’t. They are events that happened and are in the history books but that’s about it.

As for sales and the charts, it’ll probably pop into the U.K. chart on the first week buoyed by fan purchases on day one and perhaps remain for a second week getting traction from the August anniversary. It might be the same for the US, but I’d be surprised to see any reasonably high Top 30 chart placement in either country in all honesty - None of the recent releases of the last few years have seen any chart action in the US Billboard 200 chart, but maybe this one will break the mould.

[steve in sc3]

Well after all these posts I know exactly what to expect on the bluray. It is either the worst video presentation ever or improved picture and sound or tbe same as the dvd.

[hm80ep]

Well after all these posts I know exactly what to expect on the bluray. It is either the worst video presentation ever or improved picture and sound or tbe same as the dvd.

It's always good to have options!

[JohanD]

About the alternate Aloha audio on the new set, listended to a version wich my brother got, and yes, it sounds amazing.
So , that will be absolute my last Aloha purchase ever.
Still very dissapointed about the vinyl version... why on earth is it NOT the new version?

[Sillyme]

Thanks to the wonderful definition of blu-ray we now know that Elvis was in fact badly sunburnt.

This is how it is on my pc and tv anyway. Elvis' face is oddly red on the blu-ray.

His tan does appear to be a bit deeper in the Blu. I chalk that up to, perhaps a bit of color boosting. Looking at the DVDs though, his tan is pretty dark there too. The Blu Ray makes him look like he has heavy TV makeup on.

The better the quality of these TV performances gets, the more you can see the heavy make up he had on. You can see the same on the 68 DVD's and of course EIC, where it seems like they tried to make him look like a circus clown.

[Mike in New Jersey]

Thanks to the wonderful definition of blu-ray we now know that Elvis was in fact badly sunburnt.

This is how it is on my pc and tv anyway. Elvis' face is oddly red on the blu-ray.

His tan does appear to be a bit deeper in the Blu. I chalk that up to, perhaps a bit of color boosting. Looking at the DVDs though, his tan is pretty dark there too. The Blu Ray makes him look like he has heavy TV makeup on.

The better the quality of these TV performances gets, the more you can see the heavy make up he had on. You can see the same on the 68 DVD's and of course EIC, where it seems like they tried to make him look like a circus clown.

Surely, he would have sweat off TV makeup?

Edit: then again, his face seems to be a good bit darker than his hand in that pic.

[rockinrebel]

Aloha Blu-ray offers richer colours although the tape source is obvious.

Watched a few times some of the rehearsal and main show select songs —and overall pleased. Sound is enhanced slightly too...

Got the box set. Great booklet and text...

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Is only the April 1973 edit of the jan 14th concert, with the multiple screen added songs, available on the BluRay ?
Or did they give us the additional dvd edit that Graceland had as an additional choice on the dvd set?

Straight transfer from 4.3 version with black bars either side. But that said I've been enjoying it. Colours pop a little more, sound is good.

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So the EPE re-edit from the deluxe dvd set is not included?

Don't think it is. Did that have black bars either side? Can't remember...

They should have included everything from the deluxe, plus helicopter arrival etc. Plus clean up the *Hilton hotel press conference footage which I was hoping for....
(*which was on special edition DVD)

Deluxe Blu-ray... On the way maybe??

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That would have most likely required multiple discs. The only reason they've used the blu ray format for this release is so that they can fit both shows on to one disc.

The only significant upgrade therefore is the uncompressed sound, but you still need your old DVD set for the rest of the footage.

A very poor decision really, but the whole project was poorly conceived from the minute they issued the new mix of the main show on FTD.

[Mike in New Jersey]

Is it possible, the FTD was rush released? It makes sense. Perhaps at some point in the past, Sony gave the Ok for Aloha to be released on FTD, but without a firm date. With the 50th anniversary coming, perhaps Ernst called Sony on that marker and the resultant FTD release was a compromise. It would explain why it was released last year instead of this year (they knew the Sony project was due out this year).

[rockinrebel]

Is it possible, the FTD was rush released? It makes sense. Perhaps at some point in the past, Sony gave the Ok for Aloha to be released on FTD, but without a firm date. With the 50th anniversary coming, perhaps Ernst called Sony on that marker and the resultant FTD release was a compromise. It would explain why it was released last year instead of this year (they knew the Sony project was due out this year).

I bought the FTD knowing that a mainstream release was still very likely, but I was hoping that this 50th anniversary edition would be the final word on Aloha and unfortunately it isn't. I've given up buying multiple copies of things until they finally get it right.
I'm happy with my old DVD set for the footage, and I can now stream the new mixes via Amazon, so there's no incentive for me to buy this set at all...

[Mike in New Jersey]

Is it possible, the FTD was rush released? It makes sense. Perhaps at some point in the past, Sony gave the Ok for Aloha to be released on FTD, but without a firm date. With the 50th anniversary coming, perhaps Ernst called Sony on that marker and the resultant FTD release was a compromise. It would explain why it was released last year instead of this year (they knew the Sony project was due out this year).

I bought the FTD knowing that a mainstream release was still very likely, but I was hoping that this 50th anniversary edition would be the final word on Aloha and unfortunately it isn't. I've given up buying multiple copies of things until they finally get it right.
I'm happy with my old DVD set for the footage, and I can now stream the new mixes via Amazon, so there's no incentive for me to buy this set at all...

Certainly if someone already owns the FTD and was going to buy this for the blu-ray, I'd tell them to save their money. The image quality of the blu-ray is a touch different, but I'd not argue, any better than the dvd. The rehearsal show mix, as it turns out, is better than I thought it would be, but again, not leaps and bounds better than the last mix of that show. Unless you're the type that has to own every alternate mix of songs or shows, if you already have the FTD, and the Deluxe DVD set, you can safely stand pat.

Edit: what, in your opinion, would they have to have done to "get it right" in this instance? Short of doing a fresh scan of the master videos of the shows and the rest, which I'm not sure would have resulted in significantly better PQ, it seems to me there's not much they could do about the video content. The Aloha shows never looked that great to begin with...good, but not great.