Aloha From Hawaii (Deluxe Edition) coming to streaming services August 11th

[rockinrebel]

Is it possible, the FTD was rush released? It makes sense. Perhaps at some point in the past, Sony gave the Ok for Aloha to be released on FTD, but without a firm date. With the 50th anniversary coming, perhaps Ernst called Sony on that marker and the resultant FTD release was a compromise. It would explain why it was released last year instead of this year (they knew the Sony project was due out this year).

I bought the FTD knowing that a mainstream release was still very likely, but I was hoping that this 50th anniversary edition would be the final word on Aloha and unfortunately it isn't. I've given up buying multiple copies of things until they finally get it right.
I'm happy with my old DVD set for the footage, and I can now stream the new mixes via Amazon, so there's no incentive for me to buy this set at all...

Certainly if someone already owns the FTD and was going to buy this for the blu-ray, I'd tell them to save their money. The image quality of the blu-ray is a touch different, but I'd not argue, any better than the dvd. The rehearsal show mix, as it turns out, is better than I thought it would be, but again, not leaps and bounds better than the last mix of that show. Unless you're the type that has to own every alternate mix of songs or shows, if you already have the FTD, and the Deluxe DVD set, you can safely stand pat.

Edit: what, in your opinion, would they have to have done to "get it right" in this instance? Short of doing a fresh scan of the master videos of the shows and the rest, which I'm not sure would have resulted in significantly better PQ, it seems to me there's not much they could do about the video content. The Aloha shows never looked that great to begin with...good, but not great.

I have no complaints re: the audio, as I'm pretty sure they've given us everything they've got, and I'm happy with the mixes.

Re: the blu ray, if re-scanning would have produced any significant improvements then I would have expected Sony to do that.

But at the very least, the set should have included all the available footage including the arrival and the press conferences, and i would also have liked the option of watching the shows with Matt Ross's new mixes.

The 40th anniversary re-edit went a bit overboard with the split screens and special effects, so I think there was also an opportunity here for a new, tasteful re-edit.

A documentary is long overdue too, and could have presented the opportunity to use the pro shot Japanese footage from November '72, and any super 8 concert film EPE have in the archive from the '72 - '73 period.

But do we ever see such creativity with mainstream Presley projects?

[Mike in New Jersey]

Is it possible, the FTD was rush released? It makes sense. Perhaps at some point in the past, Sony gave the Ok for Aloha to be released on FTD, but without a firm date. With the 50th anniversary coming, perhaps Ernst called Sony on that marker and the resultant FTD release was a compromise. It would explain why it was released last year instead of this year (they knew the Sony project was due out this year).

I bought the FTD knowing that a mainstream release was still very likely, but I was hoping that this 50th anniversary edition would be the final word on Aloha and unfortunately it isn't. I've given up buying multiple copies of things until they finally get it right.
I'm happy with my old DVD set for the footage, and I can now stream the new mixes via Amazon, so there's no incentive for me to buy this set at all...

Certainly if someone already owns the FTD and was going to buy this for the blu-ray, I'd tell them to save their money. The image quality of the blu-ray is a touch different, but I'd not argue, any better than the dvd. The rehearsal show mix, as it turns out, is better than I thought it would be, but again, not leaps and bounds better than the last mix of that show. Unless you're the type that has to own every alternate mix of songs or shows, if you already have the FTD, and the Deluxe DVD set, you can safely stand pat.

Edit: what, in your opinion, would they have to have done to "get it right" in this instance? Short of doing a fresh scan of the master videos of the shows and the rest, which I'm not sure would have resulted in significantly better PQ, it seems to me there's not much they could do about the video content. The Aloha shows never looked that great to begin with...good, but not great.

I have no complaints re: the audio, as I'm pretty sure they've given us everything they've got, and I'm happy with the mixes.

Re: the blu ray, if re-scanning would have produced any significant improvements then I would have expected Sony to do that.

But at the very least, the set should have included all the available footage including the arrival and the press conferences, and i would also have liked the option of watching the shows with Matt Ross's new mixes.

The 40th anniversary re-edit went a bit overboard with the split screens and special effects, so I think there was also an opportunity here for a new, tasteful re-edit.

A documentary is long overdue too, and could have presented the opportunity to use the pro shot Japanese footage from November '72, and any super 8 concert film EPE have in the archive from the '72 - '73 period.

But do we ever see such creativity with mainstream Presley projects?

Something like the documentary they did for PFAP would have been a nice addition to the set, that's for sure.

[RKSNASHVILLE]

RockinRebel wrote:

I can now stream the new mixes via Amazon

Are you able to listen to the new mixes streaming on Amazon?

When I click on the streaming link it takes me to the 2 disc Legacy Edition.


RKS

[rockinrebel]

RockinRebel wrote:

I can now stream the new mixes via Amazon

Are you able to listen to the new mixes streaming on Amazon?

When I click on the streaming link it takes me to the 2 disc Legacy Edition.


RKS

To be honest, I've just added the new release to my music, but I haven't listened to it yet. Will let you know...

[Gary Crawford]

Is it possible, the FTD was rush released? It makes sense. Perhaps at some point in the past, Sony gave the Ok for Aloha to be released on FTD, but without a firm date. With the 50th anniversary coming, perhaps Ernst called Sony on that marker and the resultant FTD release was a compromise. It would explain why it was released last year instead of this year (they knew the Sony project was due out this year).

I bought the FTD knowing that a mainstream release was still very likely, but I was hoping that this 50th anniversary edition would be the final word on Aloha and unfortunately it isn't. I've given up buying multiple copies of things until they finally get it right.
I'm happy with my old DVD set for the footage, and I can now stream the new mixes via Amazon, so there's no incentive for me to buy this set at all...

Certainly if someone already owns the FTD and was going to buy this for the blu-ray, I'd tell them to save their money. The image quality of the blu-ray is a touch different, but I'd not argue, any better than the dvd. The rehearsal show mix, as it turns out, is better than I thought it would be, but again, not leaps and bounds better than the last mix of that show. Unless you're the type that has to own every alternate mix of songs or shows, if you already have the FTD, and the Deluxe DVD set, you can safely stand pat.

Edit: what, in your opinion, would they have to have done to "get it right" in this instance? Short of doing a fresh scan of the master videos of the shows and the rest, which I'm not sure would have resulted in significantly better PQ, it seems to me there's not much they could do about the video content. The Aloha shows never looked that great to begin with...good, but not great.

I have no complaints re: the audio, as I'm pretty sure they've given us everything they've got, and I'm happy with the mixes.

Re: the blu ray, if re-scanning would have produced any significant improvements then I would have expected Sony to do that.

But at the very least, the set should have included all the available footage including the arrival and the press conferences, and i would also have liked the option of watching the shows with Matt Ross's new mixes.

The 40th anniversary re-edit went a bit overboard with the split screens and special effects, so I think there was also an opportunity here for a new, tasteful re-edit.

A documentary is long overdue too, and could have presented the opportunity to use the pro shot Japanese footage from November '72, and any super 8 concert film EPE have in the archive from the '72 - '73 period.

But do we ever see such creativity with mainstream Presley projects?

Something like the documentary they did for PFAP would have been a nice addition to the set, that's for sure.

In terms of re-scanning video it is not like film where the film goes through scanning machines and then digitalises all the information on the reels and stores to a hard drive. The videotape would be played on the relevant equipment and the analogue outputs would be connected via analogue cables with digital conversion adaptor to a hard drive after being converted to digital by the relevant software. The software to interpret the information on the analogue signal may have got better in the last 20 years. However with standard definition source material it would unlikely have yielded much of an improvement. The only future hope for this material is AI upscaling which is becoming increasingly sophisticated. It will be able to intelligently recreate the missing information in terms of definition. The use of 35mm still photographs from Aloha and 68 could likely be scanned into a computer to provide the AI programme with more detailed image information to re-animate the original footage which would essentially act as a sort of storyboard template for AI to write over. Done this way it would not really be fake in-terms of what we are seeing with other AI related projects, as everything that was sung and all actions would be the same as actually happened.

[Mike Windgren]

Hi there!! .

Got my set yesterday on release date .

Packing by www.amazon.es was awesome, this is done in the correct way it should be, you´ll never receive a damage product! . Bye for now .

[londonflash]

Went to my local town centre this morning to buy some new shoes for my little man. Ended up in HMV and walked out with the new set, despite buying the FTD set only four months ago. Who needs shoes?

Did it for the 12/01 remix, as I don't even have a Bluray player. Have to say the concert sounded great in the car (hi Rob).

Secretly, I think a lot of us Elvis fans do actually enjoy repurchasing stuff. Is there a twelve step programme I can sign up to?

[ElSandro68]

I would like to know if anyone has compared the 4 lps with the new 2023 and if it is a simple reissue, I am commenting on it because if the sound is the same, it is not worth buying a new reissue and it is not complete since the previous one bring the 2 shows

I compared the LPs today. It is not a reissue of the MOV LP. MOV had added a bit of treble back then, but hardly worth mentioning. The Sony LP on the other hand sounds absolutely identical to the Legacy CD. The MOV LP sounded a bit quiet, the new Sony LP sounds louder. That is more pleasant, running noises are therefore hardly noticeable. All in all, however, nothing that really makes a repeat purchase necessary.

[elvis-fan]

I have no complaints re: the audio, as I'm pretty sure they've given us everything they've got, and I'm happy with the mixes.

Re: the blu ray, if re-scanning would have produced any significant improvements then I would have expected Sony to do that.

But at the very least, the set should have included all the available footage including the arrival and the press conferences, and i would also have liked the option of watching the shows with Matt Ross's new mixes.

The 40th anniversary re-edit went a bit overboard with the split screens and special effects, so I think there was also an opportunity here for a new, tasteful re-edit.

A documentary is long overdue too, and could have presented the opportunity to use the pro shot Japanese footage from November '72, and any super 8 concert film EPE have in the archive from the '72 - '73 period.

But do we ever see such creativity with mainstream Presley projects?

My thoughts exactly, nearly word for word.

Why was this project such a rush and thrown together? It's not like they didn't know the 50th anniversary was coming. Instead they waste time and money on reissuing the MSG shows a year after their 50th anniversary? I mean that came out of nowhere. Not that I don't appreciate the new MRS mixes but it seems like they threw all these remixing projects at Matt and said "let us know when you have those done"...

I also can't stand watching that multi-screen, Elvis On Tour wannabe, good for nothing reedit of AFH... I watched it once and that was enough.
With regard to this new release, it seems like Sony has firmly adopted the Parker creedo... "Always keep them wanting more"...

[elvis-fan]

Yup but you have to receive it first

The art department screwed up big time with one of the photos on the printed innersleeves. Look at the oversized head they put to Elvis’ body. He looks downright weird me thinks. With SONY it’s one mistake after another hehe

OMG that's funny... and yet it's also sad...
Do these guys have bets around the office on how bad they can f*ck something up to see if fans will still buy it???

Now that I've seen this for myself, there's nothing wrong with the photo...

[midniteflyer]

Been a few years since I watched Aloha and had a never seen that moment during A Big Hunk with Elvis throwing water over Charlie and then the cup which Charlie missed resulting in it bouncing along the stage.

Colours do seem brighter on this release but that could be down to a change of equipment since last watching,and I did notice a couple of brief blurring of image as previously mentioned but no frame lagging.

It's a beautiful package and I believe great value for money and glad I purchased a copy.

[RKSNASHVILLE]

RKSNASHVILLE wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 5:25 am
RockinRebel wrote:

I can now stream the new mixes via Amazon

Are you able to listen to the new mixes streaming on Amazon?

When I click on the streaming link it takes me to the 2 disc Legacy Edition.


RKS

To be honest, I've just added the new release to my music, but I haven't listened to it yet. Will let you know...

I went to the Amazon app on my phone and the new version (Deluxe) popped right up. It doesn't through the website.



RKS

[Mona Lisa]

Been a few years since I watched Aloha and had a never seen that moment during A Big Hunk with Elvis throwing water over Charlie and then the cup which Charlie missed resulting in it bouncing along the stage.

Colours do seem brighter on this release but that could be down to a change of equipment since last watching,and I did notice a couple of brief blurring of image as previously mentioned but no frame lagging.

It's a beautiful package and I believe great value for money and glad I purchased a copy.

Didnt realise elvis sang 'bold headed Sally' during LONG TALL SALLY either. But colours definitely are a little more vivid. The Sweet Inspirations outfits and those silver shoes stand out more. You couldn't see before--- Little details that enhance the experience...

Jerry scheff sticker on his bass, is that a bison??

And close ups of Elvis reveal American eagle head in detail....

Many close ups of elvis look pretty sharp at times....

Enjoying this Blu-ray......

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[Paul Allen]

His tan does appear to be a bit deeper in the Blu.

His tan?

You mean his makeup...

[Mona Lisa]

Been a few years since I watched Aloha and had a never seen that moment during A Big Hunk with Elvis throwing water over Charlie and then the cup which Charlie missed resulting in it bouncing along the stage.

Colours do seem brighter on this release but that could be down to a change of equipment since last watching,and I did notice a couple of brief blurring of image as previously mentioned but no frame lagging.

It's a beautiful package and I believe great value for money and glad I purchased a copy.

Agree.

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[L Ray]

Been a few years since I watched Aloha and had a never seen that moment during A Big Hunk with Elvis throwing water over Charlie and then the cup which Charlie missed resulting in it bouncing along the stage.

Colours do seem brighter on this release but that could be down to a change of equipment since last watching,and I did notice a couple of brief blurring of image as previously mentioned but no frame lagging.

It's a beautiful package and I believe great value for money and glad I purchased a copy.

Didnt realise elvis sang 'bold headed Sally' during LONG TALL SALLY either. But colours definitely are a little more vivid. The Sweet Inspirations outfits and those silver shoes stand out more. You couldn't see before--- Little details that enhance the experience...

Jerry scheff sticker on his bass, is that a bison??

And close ups of Elvis reveal American eagle head in detail....

Many close ups of elvis look pretty sharp at times....

Enjoying this Blu-ray......

Sent from my ANE-LX1 using Tapatalk

My feelings exactly. I have watched the main show all the way through and it is the the best Aloha version so far and easily so. Any blurring is on the original tape and the mention from someone about ‘frame lagging’ just isn’t so. It’s possible though that some may have received a defective disc. I want to be fair not rule that out. Today I’ll be watching the rehearsal concert. I’ll say one more thing. If you are in the camp of fans that thought the 68 Special Blu-ray was not an improvement you probably will think the same about Aloha Blu-ray. If you’re in the camp that thought it was an improvement, like myself, then I think you will feel the same about Aloha and feel pretty damn happy that they put in the box set!! Relax and enjoy all the great Elvis items that we have been getting recently.

[ForeverElvis]

Been a few years since I watched Aloha and had a never seen that moment during A Big Hunk with Elvis throwing water over Charlie and then the cup which Charlie missed resulting in it bouncing along the stage.

Colours do seem brighter on this release but that could be down to a change of equipment since last watching,and I did notice a couple of brief blurring of image as previously mentioned but no frame lagging.

It's a beautiful package and I believe great value for money and glad I purchased a copy.

Didnt realise elvis sang 'bold headed Sally' during LONG TALL SALLY either. But colours definitely are a little more vivid. The Sweet Inspirations outfits and those silver shoes stand out more. You couldn't see before--- Little details that enhance the experience...

Jerry scheff sticker on his bass, is that a bison??

And close ups of Elvis reveal American eagle head in detail....

Many close ups of elvis look pretty sharp at times....

Enjoying this Blu-ray......

Sent from my ANE-LX1 using Tapatalk

I’ve not watched my copy yet but, if these sorts of details are sharper and can now be seen clearer, the Bluray has improved the picture significantly. You couldn’t see those details, as just described, as sharp before.

[Mona Lisa]

Been a few years since I watched Aloha and had a never seen that moment during A Big Hunk with Elvis throwing water over Charlie and then the cup which Charlie missed resulting in it bouncing along the stage.

Colours do seem brighter on this release but that could be down to a change of equipment since last watching,and I did notice a couple of brief blurring of image as previously mentioned but no frame lagging.

It's a beautiful package and I believe great value for money and glad I purchased a copy.

Didnt realise elvis sang 'bold headed Sally' during LONG TALL SALLY either. But colours definitely are a little more vivid. The Sweet Inspirations outfits and those silver shoes stand out more. You couldn't see before--- Little details that enhance the experience...

Jerry scheff sticker on his bass, is that a bison??

And close ups of Elvis reveal American eagle head in detail....

Many close ups of elvis look pretty sharp at times....

Enjoying this Blu-ray......

Sent from my ANE-LX1 using Tapatalk

I’ve not watched my copy yet but if these sorts of details are sharper and can now be seen clearer then the Bluray has improved the picture significantly, as you couldn’t see those details as sharp before, as just described.

Be interesting what you think when you see it.... Most definitely a little improvement. Plus the 'Elvis presley' on his black acoustic on the neck stands out more during 'see see rider '......

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[Squire Smart]

Hi there!! .

Got my set yesterday on release date .

Packing by www.amazon.es was awesome, this is done in the correct way it should be, you´ll never receive a damage product! . Bye for now .

Now, that's how it should be done!! Bravo Amazon Spain.

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[Mona Lisa]

Been a few years since I watched Aloha and had a never seen that moment during A Big Hunk with Elvis throwing water over Charlie and then the cup which Charlie missed resulting in it bouncing along the stage.

Colours do seem brighter on this release but that could be down to a change of equipment since last watching,and I did notice a couple of brief blurring of image as previously mentioned but no frame lagging.

It's a beautiful package and I believe great value for money and glad I purchased a copy.

Didnt realise elvis sang 'bold headed Sally' during LONG TALL SALLY either. But colours definitely are a little more vivid. The Sweet Inspirations outfits and those silver shoes stand out more. You couldn't see before--- Little details that enhance the experience...

Jerry scheff sticker on his bass, is that a bison??

And close ups of Elvis reveal American eagle head in detail....

Many close ups of elvis look pretty sharp at times....

Enjoying this Blu-ray......

Sent from my ANE-LX1 using Tapatalk

My feelings exactly. I have watched the main show all the way through and it is the the best Aloha version so far and easily so. Any blurring is on the original tape and the mention from someone about ‘frame lagging’ just isn’t so. It’s possible though that some may have received a defective disc. I want to be fair not rule that out. Today I’ll be watching the rehearsal concert. I’ll say one more thing. If you are in the camp of fans that thought the 68 Special Blu-ray was not an improvement you probably will think the same about Aloha Blu-ray. If you’re in the camp that thought it was an improvement, like myself, then I think you will feel the same about Aloha and feel pretty damn happy that they put in the box set!! Relax and enjoy all the great Elvis items that we have been getting recently.

That sums up nicely. I'm enjoying it - - thumbed through the booklet again and it's very nice with some good, interesting text.

Played the bonus songs disc and like that too.... Those gorgeous laid back BLUE HAWAII songs with colourful in between comments from the 3.ooam rehearsal - - sounds really good quality too.



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[londonflash]

12/01/73 concert......as Joe would have remarked afterwards "good show, good show". Spun it twice today and I play concerts infrequently.

[TheKingOfMusicEP]

Is there any advertising outside the Elvis Fan world about this Aloha release in the USA or UK from Sony or others involved?
This one is not expensive and should be more popular also outside the fan world.
It is a document about a TV Special that made history. As a single Performer (even it was not shown by the same time) never again that many people turned on the TV to see one man singing.
For me Aloha is the ultimate highlight of Elvis as the king of music (even he did not like the title).
He had made is fantastic 1968 TV Special, than That´s the Way it is, followed by Elvis On Tour and than this worldwide TV Speccial with a multi million selling album.

Sony will not be spending extra money outside of their awareness emails on marketing this as they will not have the budget to do it. It will get picked up by the press but that’s going to be about it. The public are no more interested in this release, which as mentioned offers nothing new apart from remixes, than they were for the On Tour set, which at least offered three unreleased shows. The main show and rehearsal have been out so many times that any member of the public who still own say the Legacy set from 2013 and the deluxe DVD set are not going to be too bothered about this. It’ll will probably pick up sales from new fans following Baz’s movie who don’t own a copy but it’s not going to be anything mind blowing and the main show is likely to get streamed more which will affect physical sales.

And I think you overestimate the public’s perception of this show 50 years after the event and the fact it was not broadcast around the world when it happened lessened any impact it might have got. Also, it was the event rather than the show that got the attention. The show itself didn’t or doesn’t stand out any more than any other show Elvis performed up to that time - it could have been a regular show performed in Vegas or Tuscaloosa. Yes, he was in great voice most of the time, which he generally was at most shows he performed at, but it doesn’t mean anything to them today in the same way that Live Aid or Rod Stewart performing in front of over 3 million people in 1994 doesn’t. They are events that happened and are in the history books but that’s about it.

As for sales and the charts, it’ll probably pop into the U.K. chart on the first week buoyed by fan purchases on day one and perhaps remain for a second week getting traction from the August anniversary. It might be the same for the US, but I’d be surprised to see any reasonably high Top 30 chart placement in either country in all honesty - None of the recent releases of the last few years have seen any chart action in the US Billboard 200 chart, but maybe this one will break the mould.

An TV comercial or a special on one of this shopping channels or an TV Special made for CMT would sure help the selling of this product.
The Image of Elvis Aloha from Hawaii is one of the most famous in the memory of the people

[YDKM]

I just looked on Amazon.com au and they want A$66 for me to recieve a set that only offers me "new" the re mixed rehearsal show, that sucks!

[Rob]

As has been highlighted by others, the blu-ray presentation is diabolical....is it any wonder the grey market/bootleg labels do so well?
How is it possible a commercial outfit like Sony can cock something up this badly?! I guess they know that most Elvis fans will accept such slipshod product.
I'll be returning the 'deluxe' set on Monday and enjoy the new mixes via Spotify.

First, no problem with Amazon where I live. My package arrived an hour ago with zero damage to what I paid for. Second, the blu-ray has improved with brighter colors more definition than the dvd versions and sound quality is terrific. I didn’t expect this to look like Viva Las Vegas. After watching 10 minutes I realized that it is what I hoped for. Tomorrow I’ll have lots of time to listen to the wonderful cds and watch more of the Blu-ray.

The same product by two different people.

Elvis fans are some funny folks.

[TheKingOfMusicEP]

Is there any advertising outside the Elvis Fan world about this Aloha release in the USA or UK from Sony or others involved?
This one is not expensive and should be more popular also outside the fan world.
It is a document about a TV Special that made history. As a single Performer (even it was not shown by the same time) never again that many people turned on the TV to see one man singing.
For me Aloha is the ultimate highlight of Elvis as the king of music (even he did not like the title).
He had made is fantastic 1968 TV Special, than That´s the Way it is, followed by Elvis On Tour and than this worldwide TV Speccial with a multi million selling album.

Why would there be any big advertising? There is NOTHING here that hasn't been seen or heard before. The Aloha special has been on CD in 1989, 1998, 2013, 2022 and 2023. This is the fourth version of the Alternate show to be released on CD. The post-concert material was released on FTD last year, and much of it was available previously.

The only thing new is the worst visual presentation of the concert probably in the home video era.

Because of it was Elvis biggest worldwide TV show and it is not that expansive and it is a nice looking box and it was 50 years ago.
They could double or triple the sellings.
But if they calculate that only a part of the fanbase buying it and that is enough for them to make a winning, than they are not going to invest more.
It was the same with the special screening of "Reinventing Elvis". Hardly all the fans knew about it and almost no one outside the Elvis fan world knew about it.
The result was that in many cineams You could find about 25 people watching it. If they would have done more on letting the people know about it, than it would have endet up in maybe 100 people per cinema.