Aloha From Hawaii (Deluxe Edition) coming to streaming services August 11th

[Rob]

Been a few years since I watched Aloha and had a never seen that moment during A Big Hunk with Elvis throwing water over Charlie and then the cup which Charlie missed resulting in it bouncing along the stage.

Elvis was actually throwing water on Glen as he did many times before. Glen knew it was coming, too. You can see it in his face and he flinched to avoid it at the end of his piano lead.

That Elvis was such a rascal!

[ElSandro68]

The mastering of CD 1 + 3 on the Sony set is definitely not the same as on the FTD set. Vic Anesini reduces the background noise on CD 3, which now is much more pleasant to listen to. In adjustment to this, he has reduced the treble on CD 1 by a very small nuance. Very nice job, Vic.

[pmp]

Is there any advertising outside the Elvis Fan world about this Aloha release in the USA or UK from Sony or others involved?
This one is not expensive and should be more popular also outside the fan world.
It is a document about a TV Special that made history. As a single Performer (even it was not shown by the same time) never again that many people turned on the TV to see one man singing.
For me Aloha is the ultimate highlight of Elvis as the king of music (even he did not like the title).
He had made is fantastic 1968 TV Special, than That´s the Way it is, followed by Elvis On Tour and than this worldwide TV Speccial with a multi million selling album.

Why would there be any big advertising? There is NOTHING here that hasn't been seen or heard before. The Aloha special has been on CD in 1989, 1998, 2013, 2022 and 2023. This is the fourth version of the Alternate show to be released on CD. The post-concert material was released on FTD last year, and much of it was available previously.

The only thing new is the worst visual presentation of the concert probably in the home video era.

Because of it was Elvis biggest worldwide TV show and it is not that expansive and it is a nice looking box and it was 50 years ago.
They could double or triple the sellings.
But if they calculate that only a part of the fanbase buying it and that is enough for them to make a winning, than they are not going to invest more.
It was the same with the special screening of "Reinventing Elvis". Hardly all the fans knew about it and almost no one outside the Elvis fan world knew about it.
The result was that in many cineams You could find about 25 people watching it. If they would have done more on letting the people know about it, than it would have endet up in maybe 100 people per cinema.

No, you're making an assumption that people would be interested. But from what evidence? we hear this all the time but the truth is clear:

1. If it would be financially viable, then money would be spent on publicity. No question.
2. Elvis has been over-exposed, hence why nobody outside the diehard fans are remotely interested in the 50th anniversary of something like Aloha.
3. There is no more interest in Elvis among the general population than before the biopic last year.

[TheKingOfMusicEP]

Is there any advertising outside the Elvis Fan world about this Aloha release in the USA or UK from Sony or others involved?
This one is not expensive and should be more popular also outside the fan world.
It is a document about a TV Special that made history. As a single Performer (even it was not shown by the same time) never again that many people turned on the TV to see one man singing.
For me Aloha is the ultimate highlight of Elvis as the king of music (even he did not like the title).
He had made is fantastic 1968 TV Special, than That´s the Way it is, followed by Elvis On Tour and than this worldwide TV Speccial with a multi million selling album.

Why would there be any big advertising? There is NOTHING here that hasn't been seen or heard before. The Aloha special has been on CD in 1989, 1998, 2013, 2022 and 2023. This is the fourth version of the Alternate show to be released on CD. The post-concert material was released on FTD last year, and much of it was available previously.

The only thing new is the worst visual presentation of the concert probably in the home video era.

Because of it was Elvis biggest worldwide TV show and it is not that expansive and it is a nice looking box and it was 50 years ago.
They could double or triple the sellings.
But if they calculate that only a part of the fanbase buying it and that is enough for them to make a winning, than they are not going to invest more.
It was the same with the special screening of "Reinventing Elvis". Hardly all the fans knew about it and almost no one outside the Elvis fan world knew about it.
The result was that in many cineams You could find about 25 people watching it. If they would have done more on letting the people know about it, than it would have endet up in maybe 100 people per cinema.

No, you're making an assumption that people would be interested. But from what evidence? we hear this all the time but the truth is clear:

1. If it would be financially viable, then money would be spent on publicity. No question.
2. Elvis has been over-exposed, hence why nobody outside the diehard fans are remotely interested in the 50th anniversary of something like Aloha.
3. There is no more interest in Elvis among the general population than before the biopic last year.

There is still very much going on in memory of Elvis Presley. He is in many countrys like UK, Ireland and USA almost all the time in the album charts. There is this new documentary about 1968, a big musical in Australia, the Elvis Week in Memphis and in Germany.
The Festival in UK (Porthcawl) and in Australia (Parkes) with 1000´s of visitors and many smaller fanclub concerts + the great Elvis on Screen Tour in England + Graceland in London,... . There is a touring Elvis musical here in Europe. And if You like it or not there are still many impersonater shows.
The income of Elvis was last year much higher than the year before and I believe it will be not lower this year.
People streaming more Elvis than years before.

[emjel]

Is there any advertising outside the Elvis Fan world about this Aloha release in the USA or UK from Sony or others involved?
This one is not expensive and should be more popular also outside the fan world.
It is a document about a TV Special that made history. As a single Performer (even it was not shown by the same time) never again that many people turned on the TV to see one man singing.
For me Aloha is the ultimate highlight of Elvis as the king of music (even he did not like the title).
He had made is fantastic 1968 TV Special, than That´s the Way it is, followed by Elvis On Tour and than this worldwide TV Speccial with a multi million selling album.

Sony will not be spending extra money outside of their awareness emails on marketing this as they will not have the budget to do it. It will get picked up by the press but that’s going to be about it. The public are no more interested in this release, which as mentioned offers nothing new apart from remixes, than they were for the On Tour set, which at least offered three unreleased shows. The main show and rehearsal have been out so many times that any member of the public who still own say the Legacy set from 2013 and the deluxe DVD set are not going to be too bothered about this. It’ll will probably pick up sales from new fans following Baz’s movie who don’t own a copy but it’s not going to be anything mind blowing and the main show is likely to get streamed more which will affect physical sales.

And I think you overestimate the public’s perception of this show 50 years after the event and the fact it was not broadcast around the world when it happened lessened any impact it might have got. Also, it was the event rather than the show that got the attention. The show itself didn’t or doesn’t stand out any more than any other show Elvis performed up to that time - it could have been a regular show performed in Vegas or Tuscaloosa. Yes, he was in great voice most of the time, which he generally was at most shows he performed at, but it doesn’t mean anything to them today in the same way that Live Aid or Rod Stewart performing in front of over 3 million people in 1994 doesn’t. They are events that happened and are in the history books but that’s about it.

As for sales and the charts, it’ll probably pop into the U.K. chart on the first week buoyed by fan purchases on day one and perhaps remain for a second week getting traction from the August anniversary. It might be the same for the US, but I’d be surprised to see any reasonably high Top 30 chart placement in either country in all honesty - None of the recent releases of the last few years have seen any chart action in the US Billboard 200 chart, but maybe this one will break the mould.

An TV comercial or a special on one of this shopping channels or an TV Special made for CMT would sure help the selling of this product.
The Image of Elvis Aloha from Hawaii is one of the most famous in the memory of the people

Maybe in the memory of the people several decades ago, but not now in a way that is going to make people rush out and buy this release. And do you have any idea how much TV adverts cost. Sony are not going to spend high costs on TV advertising on a product which is not going to sell many copies. They know what the market will stand and if they thought that they could sell loads of copies through advertising in a big way, they would, because no business I know of turns away the opportunity of making a really nice profit. But they know this release has a limited appeal just like all the recent releases in the last four or five years.

You need to understand that the majority of record sales for this show were generated 50 years ago, and since then, there have been drip feed sales from the various releases that have occurred in the last couple of decades.

[minkahed]

Been a few years since I watched Aloha and had a never seen that moment during A Big Hunk with Elvis throwing water over Charlie and then the cup which Charlie missed resulting in it bouncing along the stage.

Colours do seem brighter on this release but that could be down to a change of equipment since last watching,and I did notice a couple of brief blurring of image as previously mentioned but no frame lagging.

It's a beautiful package and I believe great value for money and glad I purchased a copy.

Crazy Kookie me always thought it was Glen Hardin that Elvis threw the remaining water at !?

I think I get what you’re referring to.

[minkahed]

Is there any advertising outside the Elvis Fan world about this Aloha release in the USA or UK from Sony or others involved?
This one is not expensive and should be more popular also outside the fan world.
It is a document about a TV Special that made history. As a single Performer (even it was not shown by the same time) never again that many people turned on the TV to see one man singing.
For me Aloha is the ultimate highlight of Elvis as the king of music (even he did not like the title).
He had made is fantastic 1968 TV Special, than That´s the Way it is, followed by Elvis On Tour and than this worldwide TV Speccial with a multi million selling album.

Sony will not be spending extra money outside of their awareness emails on marketing this as they will not have the budget to do it. It will get picked up by the press but that’s going to be about it. The public are no more interested in this release, which as mentioned offers nothing new apart from remixes, than they were for the On Tour set, which at least offered three unreleased shows. The main show and rehearsal have been out so many times that any member of the public who still own say the Legacy set from 2013 and the deluxe DVD set are not going to be too bothered about this. It’ll will probably pick up sales from new fans following Baz’s movie who don’t own a copy but it’s not going to be anything mind blowing and the main show is likely to get streamed more which will affect physical sales.

And I think you overestimate the public’s perception of this show 50 years after the event and the fact it was not broadcast around the world when it happened lessened any impact it might have got. Also, it was the event rather than the show that got the attention. The show itself didn’t or doesn’t stand out any more than any other show Elvis performed up to that time - it could have been a regular show performed in Vegas or Tuscaloosa. Yes, he was in great voice most of the time, which he generally was at most shows he performed at, but it doesn’t mean anything to them today in the same way that Live Aid or Rod Stewart performing in front of over 3 million people in 1994 doesn’t. They are events that happened and are in the history books but that’s about it.

As for sales and the charts, it’ll probably pop into the U.K. chart on the first week buoyed by fan purchases on day one and perhaps remain for a second week getting traction from the August anniversary. It might be the same for the US, but I’d be surprised to see any reasonably high Top 30 chart placement in either country in all honesty - None of the recent releases of the last few years have seen any chart action in the US Billboard 200 chart, but maybe this one will break the mould.

An TV comercial or a special on one of this shopping channels or an TV Special made for CMT would sure help the selling of this product.
The Image of Elvis Aloha from Hawaii is one of the most famous in the memory of the people

Maybe in the memory of the people several decades ago, but not now in a way that is going to make people rush out and buy this release. And do you have any idea how much TV adverts cost. Sony are not going to spend high costs on TV advertising on a product which is not going to sell many copies. They know what the market will stand and if they thought that they could sell loads of copies through advertising in a big way, they would, because no business I know of turns away the opportunity of making a really nice profit. But they know this release has a limited appeal just like all the recent releases in the last four or five years.

You need to understand that the majority of record sales for this show were generated 50 years ago, and since then, there have been drip feed sales from the various releases that have occurred in the last couple of decades.

At last check, I do know that the 1998 25th anniversary of Aloha from Hawaii scanned over 600K.

[emjel]

Is there any advertising outside the Elvis Fan world about this Aloha release in the USA or UK from Sony or others involved?
This one is not expensive and should be more popular also outside the fan world.
It is a document about a TV Special that made history. As a single Performer (even it was not shown by the same time) never again that many people turned on the TV to see one man singing.
For me Aloha is the ultimate highlight of Elvis as the king of music (even he did not like the title).
He had made is fantastic 1968 TV Special, than That´s the Way it is, followed by Elvis On Tour and than this worldwide TV Speccial with a multi million selling album.

Why would there be any big advertising? There is NOTHING here that hasn't been seen or heard before. The Aloha special has been on CD in 1989, 1998, 2013, 2022 and 2023. This is the fourth version of the Alternate show to be released on CD. The post-concert material was released on FTD last year, and much of it was available previously.

The only thing new is the worst visual presentation of the concert probably in the home video era.

Because of it was Elvis biggest worldwide TV show and it is not that expansive and it is a nice looking box and it was 50 years ago.
They could double or triple the sellings.
But if they calculate that only a part of the fanbase buying it and that is enough for them to make a winning, than they are not going to invest more.
It was the same with the special screening of "Reinventing Elvis". Hardly all the fans knew about it and almost no one outside the Elvis fan world knew about it.
The result was that in many cineams You could find about 25 people watching it. If they would have done more on letting the people know about it, than it would have endet up in maybe 100 people per cinema.

No, you're making an assumption that people would be interested. But from what evidence? we hear this all the time but the truth is clear:

1. If it would be financially viable, then money would be spent on publicity. No question.
2. Elvis has been over-exposed, hence why nobody outside the diehard fans are remotely interested in the 50th anniversary of something like Aloha.
3. There is no more interest in Elvis among the general population than before the biopic last year.

There is still very much going on in memory of Elvis Presley. He is in many countrys like UK, Ireland and USA almost all the time in the album charts. There is this new documentary about 1968, a big musical in Australia, the Elvis Week in Memphis and in Germany.
The Festival in UK (Porthcawl) and in Australia (Parkes) with 1000´s of visitors and many smaller fanclub concerts + the great Elvis on Screen Tour in England + Graceland in London,... . There is a touring Elvis musical here in Europe. And if You like it or not there are still many impersonater shows.
The income of Elvis was last year much higher than the year before and I believe it will be not lower this year.
People streaming more Elvis than years before.

There is only one Elvis album that had been in the main charts in the last 12 months and that’s the 30 #1s. And that’s basically the only kind of Elvis album that the public are interested in - the hits or best of compilation kind of album. As for the rest of your comments, no one is suggesting there is not any interest in Elvis as a person but there is a difference in paying money to have an evening out going to some kind of tribute show and spending money on a new CD boxset which contains nothing really new and for anyone remotely interested in the Aloha album, is already likely to own a copy. Non fans go to Graceland because of who Elvis was - they want to see where he lived in the same way as tourists go to see where Henry VIII lived or where Hitler lived, but it doesn’t mean that once they have seen Graceland that they are going to become Elvis fans and rush out ti buy they latest release.

[L Ray]

The mastering of CD 1 + 3 on the Sony set is definitely not the same as on the FTD set. Vic Anesini reduces the background noise on CD 3, which now is much more pleasant to listen to. In adjustment to this, he has reduced the treble on CD 1 by a very small nuance. Very nice job, Vic.

You have some great ears for sure.

[emjel]

Is there any advertising outside the Elvis Fan world about this Aloha release in the USA or UK from Sony or others involved?
This one is not expensive and should be more popular also outside the fan world.
It is a document about a TV Special that made history. As a single Performer (even it was not shown by the same time) never again that many people turned on the TV to see one man singing.
For me Aloha is the ultimate highlight of Elvis as the king of music (even he did not like the title).
He had made is fantastic 1968 TV Special, than That´s the Way it is, followed by Elvis On Tour and than this worldwide TV Speccial with a multi million selling album.

Sony will not be spending extra money outside of their awareness emails on marketing this as they will not have the budget to do it. It will get picked up by the press but that’s going to be about it. The public are no more interested in this release, which as mentioned offers nothing new apart from remixes, than they were for the On Tour set, which at least offered three unreleased shows. The main show and rehearsal have been out so many times that any member of the public who still own say the Legacy set from 2013 and the deluxe DVD set are not going to be too bothered about this. It’ll will probably pick up sales from new fans following Baz’s movie who don’t own a copy but it’s not going to be anything mind blowing and the main show is likely to get streamed more which will affect physical sales.

And I think you overestimate the public’s perception of this show 50 years after the event and the fact it was not broadcast around the world when it happened lessened any impact it might have got. Also, it was the event rather than the show that got the attention. The show itself didn’t or doesn’t stand out any more than any other show Elvis performed up to that time - it could have been a regular show performed in Vegas or Tuscaloosa. Yes, he was in great voice most of the time, which he generally was at most shows he performed at, but it doesn’t mean anything to them today in the same way that Live Aid or Rod Stewart performing in front of over 3 million people in 1994 doesn’t. They are events that happened and are in the history books but that’s about it.

As for sales and the charts, it’ll probably pop into the U.K. chart on the first week buoyed by fan purchases on day one and perhaps remain for a second week getting traction from the August anniversary. It might be the same for the US, but I’d be surprised to see any reasonably high Top 30 chart placement in either country in all honesty - None of the recent releases of the last few years have seen any chart action in the US Billboard 200 chart, but maybe this one will break the mould.

An TV comercial or a special on one of this shopping channels or an TV Special made for CMT would sure help the selling of this product.
The Image of Elvis Aloha from Hawaii is one of the most famous in the memory of the people

Maybe in the memory of the people several decades ago, but not now in a way that is going to make people rush out and buy this release. And do you have any idea how much TV adverts cost. Sony are not going to spend high costs on TV advertising on a product which is not going to sell many copies. They know what the market will stand and if they thought that they could sell loads of copies through advertising in a big way, they would, because no business I know of turns away the opportunity of making a really nice profit. But they know this release has a limited appeal just like all the recent releases in the last four or five years.

You need to understand that the majority of record sales for this show were generated 50 years ago, and since then, there have been drip feed sales from the various releases that have occurred in the last couple of decades.

At last check, I do know that the 1998 25th anniversary of Aloha from Hawaii scanned over 600K.

Yes but it seems that that number was also generated from previous sales from 1991 up to 1998 too. And the 600k total was up to 2007.

[TheKingOfMusicEP]

Is there any advertising outside the Elvis Fan world about this Aloha release in the USA or UK from Sony or others involved?
This one is not expensive and should be more popular also outside the fan world.
It is a document about a TV Special that made history. As a single Performer (even it was not shown by the same time) never again that many people turned on the TV to see one man singing.
For me Aloha is the ultimate highlight of Elvis as the king of music (even he did not like the title).
He had made is fantastic 1968 TV Special, than That´s the Way it is, followed by Elvis On Tour and than this worldwide TV Speccial with a multi million selling album.

Sony will not be spending extra money outside of their awareness emails on marketing this as they will not have the budget to do it. It will get picked up by the press but that’s going to be about it. The public are no more interested in this release, which as mentioned offers nothing new apart from remixes, than they were for the On Tour set, which at least offered three unreleased shows. The main show and rehearsal have been out so many times that any member of the public who still own say the Legacy set from 2013 and the deluxe DVD set are not going to be too bothered about this. It’ll will probably pick up sales from new fans following Baz’s movie who don’t own a copy but it’s not going to be anything mind blowing and the main show is likely to get streamed more which will affect physical sales.

And I think you overestimate the public’s perception of this show 50 years after the event and the fact it was not broadcast around the world when it happened lessened any impact it might have got. Also, it was the event rather than the show that got the attention. The show itself didn’t or doesn’t stand out any more than any other show Elvis performed up to that time - it could have been a regular show performed in Vegas or Tuscaloosa. Yes, he was in great voice most of the time, which he generally was at most shows he performed at, but it doesn’t mean anything to them today in the same way that Live Aid or Rod Stewart performing in front of over 3 million people in 1994 doesn’t. They are events that happened and are in the history books but that’s about it.

As for sales and the charts, it’ll probably pop into the U.K. chart on the first week buoyed by fan purchases on day one and perhaps remain for a second week getting traction from the August anniversary. It might be the same for the US, but I’d be surprised to see any reasonably high Top 30 chart placement in either country in all honesty - None of the recent releases of the last few years have seen any chart action in the US Billboard 200 chart, but maybe this one will break the mould.

An TV comercial or a special on one of this shopping channels or an TV Special made for CMT would sure help the selling of this product.
The Image of Elvis Aloha from Hawaii is one of the most famous in the memory of the people

Maybe in the memory of the people several decades ago, but not now in a way that is going to make people rush out and buy this release. And do you have any idea how much TV adverts cost. Sony are not going to spend high costs on TV advertising on a product which is not going to sell many copies. They know what the market will stand and if they thought that they could sell loads of copies through advertising in a big way, they would, because no business I know of turns away the opportunity of making a really nice profit. But they know this release has a limited appeal just like all the recent releases in the last four or five years.

You need to understand that the majority of record sales for this show were generated 50 years ago, and since then, there have been drip feed sales from the various releases that have occurred in the last couple of decades.

If people like Baz Luhrman would have think the same, than a movie like Elvis would never happen.
30 #1 hits album, or the Elvis Symphonic albums would never happen which gave Elvis new million selling albums.
Sometimes it takes only a few steps to get it done.
Like the Elvis Forever album rereleased by the post and than quickly sold 50000 albums.
It could be any big firm like Pizza Hut, Star Bucks, Caddilac or what ever could sponsering or put it in a comercial.
Something like "We are having a great Hawaii Party with Elvis Aloha from Hawaii".

[pmp]

Is there any advertising outside the Elvis Fan world about this Aloha release in the USA or UK from Sony or others involved?
This one is not expensive and should be more popular also outside the fan world.
It is a document about a TV Special that made history. As a single Performer (even it was not shown by the same time) never again that many people turned on the TV to see one man singing.
For me Aloha is the ultimate highlight of Elvis as the king of music (even he did not like the title).
He had made is fantastic 1968 TV Special, than That´s the Way it is, followed by Elvis On Tour and than this worldwide TV Speccial with a multi million selling album.

Why would there be any big advertising? There is NOTHING here that hasn't been seen or heard before. The Aloha special has been on CD in 1989, 1998, 2013, 2022 and 2023. This is the fourth version of the Alternate show to be released on CD. The post-concert material was released on FTD last year, and much of it was available previously.

The only thing new is the worst visual presentation of the concert probably in the home video era.

Because of it was Elvis biggest worldwide TV show and it is not that expansive and it is a nice looking box and it was 50 years ago.
They could double or triple the sellings.
But if they calculate that only a part of the fanbase buying it and that is enough for them to make a winning, than they are not going to invest more.
It was the same with the special screening of "Reinventing Elvis". Hardly all the fans knew about it and almost no one outside the Elvis fan world knew about it.
The result was that in many cineams You could find about 25 people watching it. If they would have done more on letting the people know about it, than it would have endet up in maybe 100 people per cinema.

No, you're making an assumption that people would be interested. But from what evidence? we hear this all the time but the truth is clear:

1. If it would be financially viable, then money would be spent on publicity. No question.
2. Elvis has been over-exposed, hence why nobody outside the diehard fans are remotely interested in the 50th anniversary of something like Aloha.
3. There is no more interest in Elvis among the general population than before the biopic last year.

There is still very much going on in memory of Elvis Presley. He is in many countrys like UK, Ireland and USA almost all the time in the album charts. There is this new documentary about 1968, a big musical in Australia, the Elvis Week in Memphis and in Germany.
The Festival in UK (Porthcawl) and in Australia (Parkes) with 1000´s of visitors and many smaller fanclub concerts + the great Elvis on Screen Tour in England + Graceland in London,... . There is a touring Elvis musical here in Europe. And if You like it or not there are still many impersonater shows.
The income of Elvis was last year much higher than the year before and I believe it will be not lower this year.
People streaming more Elvis than years before.

Except he's not always in the album charts. The last real dent he made in the Uk charts was 2018. None of the recent boxed sets have charted at all. Boy from Tupelo and The Searcher soundtrack didn't chart in the US. The highest charting of the RPO albums in the US was #21.

Yes, there's the new documentary about 1968, which apparently has been playing to near empty cinemas. The Elvis Week in Memphis is there every single year - the fact it's there this year is not an indication of Elvis thriving. And if you're including impersonator shows, you really are clutching at straws.

None of the above suggest that there is much interest in Elvis's music. And with good reason, probably, because Parker certainly got something right: less is more. Throwing open the archives and issuing every scrap of music in them has harmed Elvis. There is now no excitement whatsoever over a new release because it's nothing special. Even the 1968 documentary - the story of that has been told dozens of times.

[Paul Allen]

A TV commercial or a special on one of the shopping channels... would sure help the selling of this product.

I agree with that.

[steve in sc3]

Hi there!! .

Got my set yesterday on release date .

Packing by www.amazon.es was awesome, this is done in the correct way it should be, you´ll never receive a damage product! . Bye for now .

Mine arrived yesterday in just a plain thin envelope no padding at all but luckily it was not damaged but I am 20 miles from an Amazon distribution center and was delivered by amazon so never went thru the PO or UPS etc.

[Paul Allen]

At last check, I do know that the 1998 25th anniversary of Aloha from Hawaii scanned over 600K.

minkahed, that is indeed interesting if true.

Could you please supply a link for that information?

[Paul Allen]

Been a few years since I watched Aloha and had a never seen that moment during A Big Hunk with Elvis throwing water over Charlie and then the cup which Charlie missed resulting in it bouncing along the stage.

Colours do seem brighter on this release but that could be down to a change of equipment since last watching,and I did notice a couple of brief blurring of image as previously mentioned but no frame lagging.

It's a beautiful package and I believe great value for money and glad I purchased a copy.

Crazy Kookie me always thought it was Glen Hardin that Elvis threw the remaining water at !?

It was Glen Hardin that Elvis tossed the water at in the rehearsal show
during "A Big Hunk o' Love", and Charlie, Jerry & Elvis got a good chuckle out of it.

However, it's hard to tell exactly who Elvis was aiming at during the main satellite show.
I think Charlie might've gotten a little wet.

[elvis-fan]

The mastering of CD 1 + 3 on the Sony set is definitely not the same as on the FTD set. Vic Anesini reduces the background noise on CD 3, which now is much more pleasant to listen to. In adjustment to this, he has reduced the treble on CD 1 by a very small nuance. Very nice job, Vic.

Odd that it seemed reasonable and that they would go to the expense of having Vic re-remaster what was done last year... and yet they can't find the rationale to use the new remix on the LP. Who are these people???

[TheKingOfMusicEP]

Is there any advertising outside the Elvis Fan world about this Aloha release in the USA or UK from Sony or others involved?
This one is not expensive and should be more popular also outside the fan world.
It is a document about a TV Special that made history. As a single Performer (even it was not shown by the same time) never again that many people turned on the TV to see one man singing.
For me Aloha is the ultimate highlight of Elvis as the king of music (even he did not like the title).
He had made is fantastic 1968 TV Special, than That´s the Way it is, followed by Elvis On Tour and than this worldwide TV Speccial with a multi million selling album.

Why would there be any big advertising? There is NOTHING here that hasn't been seen or heard before. The Aloha special has been on CD in 1989, 1998, 2013, 2022 and 2023. This is the fourth version of the Alternate show to be released on CD. The post-concert material was released on FTD last year, and much of it was available previously.

The only thing new is the worst visual presentation of the concert probably in the home video era.

Because of it was Elvis biggest worldwide TV show and it is not that expansive and it is a nice looking box and it was 50 years ago.
They could double or triple the sellings.
But if they calculate that only a part of the fanbase buying it and that is enough for them to make a winning, than they are not going to invest more.
It was the same with the special screening of "Reinventing Elvis". Hardly all the fans knew about it and almost no one outside the Elvis fan world knew about it.
The result was that in many cineams You could find about 25 people watching it. If they would have done more on letting the people know about it, than it would have endet up in maybe 100 people per cinema.

No, you're making an assumption that people would be interested. But from what evidence? we hear this all the time but the truth is clear:

1. If it would be financially viable, then money would be spent on publicity. No question.
2. Elvis has been over-exposed, hence why nobody outside the diehard fans are remotely interested in the 50th anniversary of something like Aloha.
3. There is no more interest in Elvis among the general population than before the biopic last year.

There is still very much going on in memory of Elvis Presley. He is in many countrys like UK, Ireland and USA almost all the time in the album charts. There is this new documentary about 1968, a big musical in Australia, the Elvis Week in Memphis and in Germany.
The Festival in UK (Porthcawl) and in Australia (Parkes) with 1000´s of visitors and many smaller fanclub concerts + the great Elvis on Screen Tour in England + Graceland in London,... . There is a touring Elvis musical here in Europe. And if You like it or not there are still many impersonater shows.
The income of Elvis was last year much higher than the year before and I believe it will be not lower this year.
People streaming more Elvis than years before.

Except he's not always in the album charts. The last real dent he made in the Uk charts was 2018. None of the recent boxed sets have charted at all. Boy from Tupelo and The Searcher soundtrack didn't chart in the US. The highest charting of the RPO albums in the US was #21.

Yes, there's the new documentary about 1968, which apparently has been playing to near empty cinemas. The Elvis Week in Memphis is there every single year - the fact it's there this year is not an indication of Elvis thriving. And if you're including impersonator shows, you really are clutching at straws.

None of the above suggest that there is much interest in Elvis's music. And with good reason, probably, because Parker certainly got something right: less is more. Throwing open the archives and issuing every scrap of music in them has harmed Elvis. There is now no excitement whatsoever over a new release because it's nothing special. Even the 1968 documentary - the story of that has been told dozens of times.


Elvis Presley Forever album (U.S. Postal Service) 2015 Billboard 200 album Charts # 11 and in The County Album Charts # 2
2018 Where No One Stands Alone Billboard 200 album Charts # 22
30 #1 now #168 in it`s 165 weeks on this charts
The Searcher did made into the Charts: BB 200 #145 and Country Album charts #17
Also the The Essential Elvis Presley album made a charts comeback last year (already 102 nweeks)
Over 30 Elvis albums in this century already in to the BB 200

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley/Diskografie

[pmp]

A TV commercial or a special on one of the shopping channels... would sure help the selling of this product.

I agree with that.

But the point here is that the cost of such commercials would not be worthwhile for the few extra that got sold. According to the web, it costs between £10-50k in the UK (about $65,500 US) for each showing of an advertisement in the evening on a major channel such as ITV. My understanding is that the cost on national TV in the US is even more expensive at peak time. That's without the cost of MAKING the advertisement.

But let's go with the £10,000 cost, because perhaps they're advertising on a less viewed national TV channel in the UK. Channel 5, say.

You need to remember that the record label who is paying for the making of the commercial and the commercial slot in the TV schedules only gets 30% of the money you spend on the product. That means that to BREAK EVEN, each time the advert is shown, they have to sell over 1000 copies (if you're buying at £30). In the UK. That's WITHOUT the cost of making the advert in the first place. And remember that's 1000 copies EACH TIME the advert is shown. To break even. So, to make it worthwhile, it's going to be closer to 2000 copies.

The Toast website (linked to below) tell us that a TV campaign can start from £80,000 - but that's not going to get you advertising in a prime slot on a major channel. But it does mean that Sony would have to sell over 8000 extra copies of the Aloha set to break even.

So, there is a very good reason why an Elvis album that's been released four times in the last 25 years isn't getting TV advertising.

https://www.toasttv.co.uk/tv-advertising-costs/#:~:text=A%20slot%20in%20daytime%20usually,All%20Creatures%20Great%20and%20Small.

https://www.creativehumans.com/blog/how-much-30-second-commercial-cost#:~:text=Broadcast%2C%20Cable%2C%20or%20Internet&text=As%20mentioned%20above%2C%20the%20average,to%20%2430%20CPM%20(Hulu).

[pmp]

Elvis Presley Forever album (U.S. Postal Service) 2015 Billboard 200 album Charts # 11 and in The County Album Charts # 2
2018 Where No One Stands Alone Billboard 200 album Charts # 22
30 #1 now #168 in it`s 165 weeks on this charts
The Searcher did made into the Charts: BB 200 #145 and Country Album charts #17
Also the The Essential Elvis Presley album made a charts comeback last year (already 102 nweeks)
Over 30 Elvis albums in this century already in to the BB 200

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley/Diskografie

Listen to yourself.

You're suggesting a five year old album making #145 in the charts is a sign of Elvis being popular.

I think you've lost the argument if that's the best you can do.

[TheKingOfMusicEP]

Elvis Presley Forever album (U.S. Postal Service) 2015 Billboard 200 album Charts # 11 and in The County Album Charts # 2
2018 Where No One Stands Alone Billboard 200 album Charts # 22
30 #1 now #168 in it`s 165 weeks on this charts
The Searcher did made into the Charts: BB 200 #145 and Country Album charts #17
Also the The Essential Elvis Presley album made a charts comeback last year (already 102 nweeks)
Over 30 Elvis albums in this century already in to the BB 200

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley/Diskografie

Listen to yourself.

You're suggesting a five year old album making #145 in the charts is a sign of Elvis being popular.

I think you've lost the argument if that's the best you can do.

You said Boy from Tupelo and The Searcher soundtrack didn't chart in the US and i did show that it did.

[minkahed]

Well, I finally got around to opening up the vinyl, kick back and chill, that is, until I noticed something strange on the turntable.

GD thing was W A R P E D !!!!

It’s going back tomorrow. I’ve had enough of this S@@t.

[emjel]

A TV commercial or a special on one of the shopping channels... would sure help the selling of this product.

I agree with that.

The problem is that the extra high advertising costs vs extra sales received would not cover the additional spend. Sure, they would probably get a small percentage increase in sales, but not enough to cover the additional costs. If Sony knew that by spending lots of money on advertising/marketing this release and that they would get a decent return and more profit, they would have done it. - Companies do not shy away from making money.

As PMP has already said, part of the fault of low sales lies with Sony/BMG/RCA issuing so much and repeatedly over the years that people are bored with it - there’s nothing to get excited about. Even some fans have turned away from this release because of the FTD one that was released 18 months ago. And since the original album was released back in 1973, there have probably been at least another two or three anniversary releases - a 25th in 1998 and then a 40th in 2013 which has exactly what this set offers apart from the Blu-Ray and a remix and which is still available to buy at half the price that this set is.

[emjel]

Is there any advertising outside the Elvis Fan world about this Aloha release in the USA or UK from Sony or others involved?
This one is not expensive and should be more popular also outside the fan world.
It is a document about a TV Special that made history. As a single Performer (even it was not shown by the same time) never again that many people turned on the TV to see one man singing.
For me Aloha is the ultimate highlight of Elvis as the king of music (even he did not like the title).
He had made is fantastic 1968 TV Special, than That´s the Way it is, followed by Elvis On Tour and than this worldwide TV Speccial with a multi million selling album.

Sony will not be spending extra money outside of their awareness emails on marketing this as they will not have the budget to do it. It will get picked up by the press but that’s going to be about it. The public are no more interested in this release, which as mentioned offers nothing new apart from remixes, than they were for the On Tour set, which at least offered three unreleased shows. The main show and rehearsal have been out so many times that any member of the public who still own say the Legacy set from 2013 and the deluxe DVD set are not going to be too bothered about this. It’ll will probably pick up sales from new fans following Baz’s movie who don’t own a copy but it’s not going to be anything mind blowing and the main show is likely to get streamed more which will affect physical sales.

And I think you overestimate the public’s perception of this show 50 years after the event and the fact it was not broadcast around the world when it happened lessened any impact it might have got. Also, it was the event rather than the show that got the attention. The show itself didn’t or doesn’t stand out any more than any other show Elvis performed up to that time - it could have been a regular show performed in Vegas or Tuscaloosa. Yes, he was in great voice most of the time, which he generally was at most shows he performed at, but it doesn’t mean anything to them today in the same way that Live Aid or Rod Stewart performing in front of over 3 million people in 1994 doesn’t. They are events that happened and are in the history books but that’s about it.

As for sales and the charts, it’ll probably pop into the U.K. chart on the first week buoyed by fan purchases on day one and perhaps remain for a second week getting traction from the August anniversary. It might be the same for the US, but I’d be surprised to see any reasonably high Top 30 chart placement in either country in all honesty - None of the recent releases of the last few years have seen any chart action in the US Billboard 200 chart, but maybe this one will break the mould.

An TV comercial or a special on one of this shopping channels or an TV Special made for CMT would sure help the selling of this product.
The Image of Elvis Aloha from Hawaii is one of the most famous in the memory of the people

Maybe in the memory of the people several decades ago, but not now in a way that is going to make people rush out and buy this release. And do you have any idea how much TV adverts cost. Sony are not going to spend high costs on TV advertising on a product which is not going to sell many copies. They know what the market will stand and if they thought that they could sell loads of copies through advertising in a big way, they would, because no business I know of turns away the opportunity of making a really nice profit. But they know this release has a limited appeal just like all the recent releases in the last four or five years.

You need to understand that the majority of record sales for this show were generated 50 years ago, and since then, there have been drip feed sales from the various releases that have occurred in the last couple of decades.

If people like Baz Luhrman would have think the same, than a movie like Elvis would never happen.
30 #1 hits album, or the Elvis Symphonic albums would never happen which gave Elvis new million selling albums.
Sometimes it takes only a few steps to get it done.
Like the Elvis Forever album rereleased by the post and than quickly sold 50000 albums.
It could be any big firm like Pizza Hut, Star Bucks, Caddilac or what ever could sponsering or put it in a comercial.
Something like "We are having a great Hawaii Party with Elvis Aloha from Hawaii".

You cannot compare coming up with the idea of doing a brand new movie about Elvis’ career with spending vast sums of money in promoting a 50 year old concert album that has already been released in many guises over the last few decades. The general public are not like hardcore fans who have a need to own every release when it comes out. The companies you mention are NOT going to spend large sums of money sponsoring something that gives them little return or any additional return.

I don’t know why you are obsessed with this kind of thing, although that said, I do - it’s because you are obsessed with seeing Elvis in the charts because it implies that Elvis must still be extremely popular. Well here’s a newsflash for you so you can get the celebrations ready.

On Monday and unless something changes dramatically in general record sales over the last 24 hours, it is pretty much guaranteed that you will see that Aloha from Hawaii has got into the mid-week U.K. album chart, although actual position is unknown. However, that will not reflect the popularity of Elvis and this release via the general public, but that the regular hardcore fans have had their pre-ordered copy delivered on the day of release. Then next Friday, it will probably get into the lower part of the actual album chart. If it remains there for a few more weeks around the same position, then you’ll know that the release has generated a bit of interest from the general public. If it disappears after one week, you’ll know that it’s chart entry was down to the hardcore fans.

[Mona Lisa]

The mastering of CD 1 + 3 on the Sony set is definitely not the same as on the FTD set. Vic Anesini reduces the background noise on CD 3, which now is much more pleasant to listen to. In adjustment to this, he has reduced the treble on CD 1 by a very small nuance. Very nice job, Vic.

You have some great ears for sure.

I did notice CD-3 seems to reveal more detail....Elvis' Greek impression during one song.... CD-2 rehearsal sounds really good now too-- A great bonus...

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