Elvis Presley: Memphis (Box Set)

[On Tape 1972]

$130 seems a bit high for a 5 disc download set. I hate to think how much a physical copy is if that download price is correct.

Some high-res downloads can be pricey. The 16/44.1 physical disc set will be a lot cheaper.

So are you saying that a set of hi res download files will be more expensive ve than a physiacl set which needs to be manufactured (designed, pressed and printed) and then distributed.

Pretty much always has been because the sound quality is much higher.

Elvis at stax for example is 61 usd on there for Hi-Res files

Exactly. Always has been like that in the case of Qobuz. I'd get the high-res-material from somewhere else though. Highresaudio.com is a little less pricey and they have excellent quality control.

[Rockin_John]

Cool cover, but a strange concept...

[drjohncarpenter]

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Found this on Qobuz earlier. Haven't seen it posted anywhere. Available August 9th.

https://www.qobuz.com/nz-en/album/memphis-elvis-presley/ohsagkcx7fetc

"When It Rains, It Really Pours"

Elvis didn't cut that in Memphis in November 1955.

He did, however, cover a Sun single A-side, issued the previous January:

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[drjohncarpenter]

Cool cover, but a strange concept...

The concept seems pretty straightforward, a collection of all Presley masters recorded in Memphis (plus some bonus cuts).

[drjohncarpenter]

WOW!

They did it. No demos, no informal recordings, no soundboard recordings. It's the real deal.

Almost.

[Rockin_John]

Cool cover, but a strange concept...

The concept seems pretty straightforward, a collection of all Presley masters recorded in Memphis (plus some bonus cuts).

But it is not a all recorded masters...

This Is The Story
A Little Bit of Green
My Little Friend
Inherit The Wind
I'll Be There
And The Grass Won't Pay No Mind
If I'm A Fool For Loving You
Who Am I
Girl of Mine
Mr. Songman
Thinking About You
Love Song of the Year

[drjohncarpenter]

Interested to hear the remixed masters and concert.
I wonder how much he managed to improve on the 50s tracks

You can't remix MONO recordings from 1953-1955.

[frus75]

It is confirmed the masters are remixed??

By the way, a pity Mark James just died. It is amazing how relative is time, when we were opening the Memphis record or the essential 60’s masters, those recordings were old but were indeed 18 to 24 years old. Now the Memphis record and the essential 60’s masters are 37 and 31 years old.

[Johnny2523]

Interested to hear the remixed masters and concert.
I wonder how much he managed to improve on the 50s tracks

You can't remix MONO recordings from 1953-1955.

Apologies wasnt very clear, i meant i wonder how much he managed to improve the sound on the 50s recordings since they cant be remixed.

[Johnny2523]

I certainly would have appriciated and the grass wont pay no mind vs the weak unrehearsed hey jude

[emjel]

Cool cover, but a strange concept...

The concept seems pretty straightforward, a collection of all Presley masters recorded in Memphis (plus some bonus cuts).

But it is not a all recorded masters...

This Is The Story
A Little Bit of Green
My Little Friend
Inherit The Wind
I'll Be There
And The Grass Won't Pay No Mind
If I'm A Fool For Loving You
Who Am I
Girl of Mine
Mr. Songman
Thinking About You
Love Song of the Year

It’s unbelievable if those songs are missing yet they’ve included a crap recording like Hey Jude and the This Time medley thing. What dozey cretin made those decisions if those songs in that list above are missing.

[YDKM]

Yes it is a nice enough set but not for me as nothing new.

You'll end up with this set eventually. Mark my words

really..... it would have to get positive reviews regarding sound quality being improved to interest me.

[emjel]

$130 seems a bit high for a 5 disc download set. I hate to think how much a physical copy is if that download price is correct.

Some high-res downloads can be pricey. The 16/44.1 physical disc set will be a lot cheaper.

So are you saying that a set of hi res download files will be more expensive ve than a physiacl set which needs to be manufactured (designed, pressed and printed) and then distributed.

Pretty much always has been because the sound quality is much higher.

Elvis at stax for example is 61 usd on there for Hi-Res files

Maybe but it’s advertised as 16/44 and with prices starting from $139. So that suggests that the hi-red stuff is going to be more.
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[pmp]

In a quick view to the tracklist I’ve not discovered unreleased tracks.


colonel snow

These tracks seem to be missing from the American Sound Sessions:

This Is The Story
A Little Bit of Green
My Little Friend
Inherit The Wind
I'll Be There
And The Grass Won't Pay No Mind
If I'm A Fool For Loving You
Who Am I?

From Stax these tracks seem to be missing:

Girl of Mine
Mr. Songman
Thinking About You
Love Song of the Year

MT

Who needs Inherit the Wing and This is the Story when you can have four and a half minutes of Elvis singing Hey Jude out of tune?

[Johnny2523]

In a quick view to the tracklist I’ve not discovered unreleased tracks.


colonel snow

These tracks seem to be missing from the American Sound Sessions:

This Is The Story
A Little Bit of Green
My Little Friend
Inherit The Wind
I'll Be There
And The Grass Won't Pay No Mind
If I'm A Fool For Loving You
Who Am I?

From Stax these tracks seem to be missing:

Girl of Mine
Mr. Songman
Thinking About You
Love Song of the Year

MT

Who needs Inherit the Wing and This is the Story when you can have four and a half minutes of Elvis singing Hey Jude out of tune?

Even more interesting is that Elvis and the band rehearsing it in 1970 manage to get the key right instantly and shows how it should have sounded albeit short.

[L Ray]

WOW. This is what I’ve been expecting based on what we heard already BUT I’m surprised some are missing and the big question, WILL THE SUN TRACKS BE IN STEREO? I hope so. This is there chance to get them out there.

[pmp]

But what's the point?

The Sun sides were released on A Boy From Tupelo seven years ago at retail.

The Memphis concert has been dished up in three different mixes already.

The Jungle Room sessions were dealt with very well in the Way Down in the Jungle Room set.

The Memphis 69 stuff leaves out eight tracks, but includes the Hey Jude mess and the This Time medley. WTF?

And the Stax recordings leaves out four tracks - including two songs that were deemed worthy enough to be single sides, but keeps Three Corn Patches (and the disc only runs 72 minutes anyway, and so could have included a couple more songs easily).

So the general public interested in this kind of deep dive will already have past reiterations of this material from the last decade or so (ABFT, Way Down, Elvis at Stax, From Elvis in Memphis and Memphis 74 legacy editions).

It's not complete enough to interest more hardcore fans.

And there's nothing new here for collectors.

And some of these choices seem very weird.
Good Times (complete) is 29:23
Promised Land (complete) is 28:37
Raised on Rock (not including Are You Sincere, I Miss You, and Sweet Angeline) is 20:00.
That's under 80 minutes, and so means they could have included ALL the Stax tracks on one disc, and not leave ANY tracks out.

I realise the timings on the Qobuz website indicates that they are adding in studio chatter (not needed at retail level) and/or using unedited versions, but, again, even they have generally already been released at retail level.

So why not just keep it simple, and include a remix (if that's what people want) of all masters professionally recorded in Memphis? Five discs would do that easily.

It seems yet another half-hearted, how-can-we-screw-this-up effort from Sony at retail.

[JimmyCool]

BUT I’m surprised some are missing and the big question, WILL THE SUN TRACKS BE IN STEREO? I hope so. This is there chance to get them out there.

You're kidding, right?

[ElSandro68]

These tracks seem to be missing from the American Sound Sessions:

This Is The Story
A Little Bit of Green
My Little Friend
Inherit The Wind
I'll Be There
And The Grass Won't Pay No Mind
If I'm A Fool For Loving You
Who Am I?

From Stax these tracks seem to be missing:

Girl of Mine
Mr. Songman
Thinking About You
Love Song of the Year

MT

+ Rubberneckin'

[elvisjock]

If we get a remix on the Stax and Graceland masters, I will be one happy sumbitch.

[minkahed]

Well, it’s finally coming and if we are treated to fresh mixes of the original (poor) mixing/mastering, then I’m all in as well. I would assume that this is the case as to what would be the sense or selling points?

If it’s just the same old rehashed material, then I will skip and just stick with my original releases.

I’m thinking that FTD has some sessions sets planned for this material anyway so that may be the route to go.

[Christopher Brown]

No interest AT ALL. I'll wait for the 100th anniversary.

[PiersEIN]

Seems weird to re-release the Sun material.

What about if they were DES STEREO?
Cheers,
Piers.
Ooops, I missed the second page of this thread and I see that same thought has been mentioned above.

Interested to hear the remixed masters and concert.
I wonder how much he managed to improve on the 50s tracks

You can't remix MONO recordings from 1953-1955.

And - YES YOU CAN - using DES.
Peter Jackson remixed mono soundtracks of 'Let It Be' for his Get Back series.

[frus75]

The choices they made regarding hey Jude also bother me, but people saying is the same material all over again… it has to be. There’s nothing more. And I’m happy they focused again on the masters. But even if they would have featured outtakes, how many complete takes of those songs remain unreleased?

[Elvis2000]

Seems weird to re-release the Sun material.

What about if they were DES STEREO?
Cheers,
Piers.
Ooops, I missed the second page of this thread and I see that same thought has been mentioned above.

Interested to hear the remixed masters and concert.
I wonder how much he managed to improve on the 50s tracks

You can't remix MONO recordings from 1953-1955.

And - YES YOU CAN - using DES.
Peter Jackson remixed mono soundtracks of 'Let It Be' for his Get Back series.

Yes but the only tech RCA should be using to demix is Jacksons tech, which makes it highly unlikely we see any mono to stereo releases from RCA.