Elvis Presley: Memphis (Box Set)
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Yes, you can easily tell the difference between home assembly and retail releases quite easily with Elvis product these days - because the home assembly is the coherent one.drjohncarpenter wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:51 pmThis is a home assembly, not a retail product. Two very different things.
elvis-fan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:13 pmA layout of the masters that would have made more sense to me:
Elvis - MEMPHIS
Disc 1 - SUN Records
My Happiness
That's When Your Heartaches Begin
I'll Never Stand In Your Way
It Wouldn't Be the Same Without You
Harbor Lights
I Love You Because
That's All Right
Blue Moon of Kentucky
Blue Moon
Tomorrow Night
I'll Never Let You Go (Little Darlin')
Just Because
Good Rockin' Tonight
I Don't Care If the Sun Don't Shine
Milkcow Blues Boogie
You're a Heartbreaker
Baby, Let's Play House
I'm Left, You're Right, She's Gone
I'm Left, You're Right, She's Gone (Slow Version)
I Forgot to Remember to Forget
Mystery Train
Trying to Get to You
When It Rains, It Really Pours
Disc 2 – American Studios
Long Black Limousine
This Is The Story
Wearin' That Loved On Look
You'll Think Of Me
I'm Movin' On
A Little Bit Of Green
Gentle On My Mind
Don't Cry Daddy
Poor Man's Gold
Inherit The Wind
Mama Liked The Roses
My Little Friend
In The Ghetto
Rubberneckin'
Hey Jude
From A Jack To A King
Disc 3 – More American Studios
Without Love (There Is Nothing)
I'll Hold You In My Heart ('Til I Can Hold You In My Arms)
I'll Be There
Suspicious Minds
Stranger In My Own Home Town
True Love Travels On A Gravel Road
And The Grass Won't Pay No Mind
Power Of My Love
After Loving You
Do You Know Who I Am?
Kentucky Rain
Only The Strong Survive
It Keeps Right On A-Hurtin'
Any Day Now
If I'm A Fool (For Loving You)
The Fair's Moving On
Disc 4 – STAX Studio
If You Don't Come Back
Three Corn Patches
Take Good Care Of Her
Find Out What's Happening
I've Got A Thing About You Baby
Just A Little Bit
Raised On Rock
For Ol' Times Sake
Girl Of Mine
I Got A Feelin' In My Body
It's Midnight
You Asked Me To
If You Talk In Your Sleep
Mr. Songman
Disc 5 – More From STAX Studio
Thinking About You
Love Song Of The Year
Help Me
My Boy
Loving Arms
Good Time Charlie's Got The Blues
Talk About The Good Times
Promised Land
Your Love's Been A Long Time Coming
There's A Honky Tonk Angel (Who’ll Take Me Back In)
If That Isn't Love
Spanish Eyes
She Wears My Ring
Disc 6 – Live at the Mid-South Coliseum (March 20, 1974)
Also Sprach Zarathustra
See See Rider
I Got a Woman / Amen
Love Me
Trying to Get to You
All Shook Up
Steamroller Blues
(Let Me Be Your) Teddy Bear / Don't Be Cruel
Love Me Tender
MEDLEY: Long Tall Sally / Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On / Your Mama Don't Dance / Flip Flop and Fly / Jailhouse Rock / Hound Dog
Fever
Polk Salad Annie
Why Me Lord
How Great Thou Art
Suspicious Minds
Introductions by Elvis
MEDLEY: Blueberry Hill / I Can't Stop Loving You
Help Me
An American Trilogy
Let Me Be There
My Baby Left Me
Lawdy, Miss Clawdy
Funny How Times Slips Away
Can't Help Falling In Love
Closing Vamp
Disc 7 – GRACELAND
Bitter They Are, Harder They Fall
She Thinks I Still Care
The Last Farewell
Solitaire
Moody Blue
I'll Never Fall In Love Again
For The Heart
Hurt
Danny Boy
Never Again
Love Coming Down
Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain
It's Easy For You
Way Down
Pledging My Love
He'll Have To Go
What's more, what @elvis-fan proposes could actually fit on five discs instead of seven if the masters were presented as originally released without longer fade-outs, studio chatter, and false starts:
Disc one - Sun masters
Disc two - Memphis 69 part one.
Disc three - Memphis 69 part two and Jungle Room sessions
Disc Four - Complete Stax masters (which run for approx 78 minutes)
Disc Five - Memphis concert.
There. That wasn't so hard, was it?
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They didn't include Rubberneckin'!....increadible
Any of the ones below would have been better than Mama liked the roses, This time jam and Hey jude! Another bad decision
This Is The Story
My Little Friend
Inherit The Wind
I'll Be There
If I'm A Fool For Loving You
Same above...any of these from stax would have been better than Take good care of her and She wears my ring...specially Thinking about you
Girl of mine
Mr. Songman
Thinking About You
Love Song of the Year
About the Memphis show....they still have 3 unreleased ones....would have been great to include one of them making the box more interesting IMHO
Any of the ones below would have been better than Mama liked the roses, This time jam and Hey jude! Another bad decision
This Is The Story
My Little Friend
Inherit The Wind
I'll Be There
If I'm A Fool For Loving You
Same above...any of these from stax would have been better than Take good care of her and She wears my ring...specially Thinking about you
Girl of mine
Mr. Songman
Thinking About You
Love Song of the Year
About the Memphis show....they still have 3 unreleased ones....would have been great to include one of them making the box more interesting IMHO
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I'm fine with the two Nashville boxes....my only complain is the very bad decision of not including the Sweets voices on Its only love....on the second bridge you can see Elvis leaves the first part to them specially...a musical effect..to then sing his response...but instead there is silence making Elvis entrance sounding out of time on the songjoekro1977 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:07 pmThis is precisely what they did with the two Nashville packages, why would they break that pattern now?
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Because the overdubs on the Nashville recordings were merely intended to sweeten or add to the original recording. There is never any feeling when listening to the undubbed Nashville recordings that they are unfinished.joekro1977 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:07 pmThis is precisely what they did with the two Nashville packages, why would they break that pattern now?
The overdubs on the Memphis 69 recordings were meant to COMPLETE the recording. The intent was completely different.
Hence why I said "undubbed IN THIS INSTANCE means half finished."
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brilliant....Yes to the cd set and double vinyl album. So pleased and grateful that we still get so many wonderful releases almost half a century after his passing.
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pmp wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 10:54 pmdrjohncarpenter wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:51 pmThis is a home assembly, not a retail product. Two very different things.
Yes, you can easily tell the difference between home assembly and retail releases quite easily with Elvis product these days - because the home assembly is the coherent one.
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Despite some disappointment over a handful of the omitted tracks, I've ordered the CD and LP.
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And presumably, Hey Jude was to have a new vocal track laid down with full lyrics?pmp wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:14 pmBecause the overdubs on the Nashville recordings were merely intended to sweeten or add to the original recording. There is never any feeling when listening to the undubbed Nashville recordings that they are unfinished.joekro1977 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:07 pmThis is precisely what they did with the two Nashville packages, why would they break that pattern now?
The overdubs on the Memphis 69 recordings were meant to COMPLETE the recording. The intent was completely different.
Hence why I said "undubbed IN THIS INSTANCE means half finished."
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Thanks, but sorry, I can't hear that. Maybe I overheard it - at which time in the video are they saying this?frus75 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:53 pmThey say so in the 9 minute videoElSandro68 wrote:I'm wondering why you're only talking about undubbed masters. The stated running times (qobuz-link) rule this out for many tracks. It seems to be more of a mixture of outtakes and undubbed masters or unedited undubbed masters. See also the yellow sticker "Highlights" on the CD box.
Yes, they are talking about "no overdubs", it says so on the sticker as well, but not about the masters. Hey Jude, at 4:10, is considerably shorter than the master. You can also continue this for '73, For Ol' Times Sake with its 3:37 is a lot shorter than the master, would correspond more to take 4, Good Times Charlie Got The Blues with its 4:28 would correspond to the unedited undubbed master, but Three Corn Patches (3:36), on the other hand, would correspond more to take 14. For The Heart with 3:56 would fit to take 1 and so on. In my opinion these are just studio highlights (masters & outtakes) without overdubs.
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Steve Morse wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:56 pmI'm surprised Tiger Man is missing from the Sun recordings.
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Billy Easter wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 12:28 amAnd presumably, Hey Jude was to have a new vocal track laid down with full lyrics?
Not necessarily.
Since it stayed on the shelf until 1972, one assumes all concerned left it for what it was: a studio warm-up before a vocal overdub session.
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It was the first song Elvis attempted on the evening of Tuesday 21st Jan and Elvis had the opportunity of revisiting the song later or even the next day or the next day after that, but was clearly not interested in committing to a proper version.Billy Easter wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 12:28 amAnd presumably, Hey Jude was to have a new vocal track laid down with full lyrics?pmp wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:14 pmBecause the overdubs on the Nashville recordings were merely intended to sweeten or add to the original recording. There is never any feeling when listening to the undubbed Nashville recordings that they are unfinished.joekro1977 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:07 pmThis is precisely what they did with the two Nashville packages, why would they break that pattern now?
The overdubs on the Memphis 69 recordings were meant to COMPLETE the recording. The intent was completely different.
Hence why I said "undubbed IN THIS INSTANCE means half finished."
It would seem that RCA did not consider Elvis’ vocals as being good enough for release at the time even though overdubs were later added a couple of months later to what they did have. But the whole thing was a complete mess with poor vocals and completely messed up lyrics. About the only thing he got right was the coda at the end and we know that the only reason the recording eventually got pulled from the shelf was when RCA were desperate for something to help fill up the poor Elvis Now album, itself having a misleading title with the songs being recorded anywhere from one to three years before its release.
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The UK price for the box set is much lower than the US and Canada Amazon links, but the vinyl is comparable with all 3. The UK box set price is ridiculously low.
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Ordered on amazon UK... 46.58USD delivered. (or $63.97 CDN)paulsweeney wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 2:02 amThe UK price for the box set is much lower than the US and Canada Amazon links, but the vinyl is comparable with all 3. The UK box set price is ridiculously low.
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Just my opinion but I wasn't impressed with that at all. I guess if the target is the average retailer that's fine but it's just a lot of fluff and no real discussion about why the content was chosen and how decisions were made. I've purchased this mainly for the '74 show as we already have the undubbed masters from the '69 sessions and I can't imagine the SUN recordings from ABFT or even Elvis At Sun being improved upon.
I'm really disappointed about the fact that this is the first opportunity taken to remix the Graceland session recordings and they decide to issue them unfinished.
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I just did the same, $63.97 CDN including shipping.elvis-fan wrote:Ordered on amazon UK... 46.58USD delivered. (or $63.97 CDN)paulsweeney wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 2:02 amThe UK price for the box set is much lower than the US and Canada Amazon links, but the vinyl is comparable with all 3. The UK box set price is ridiculously low.
Amazon Canada would have been $108 CDN with free prime delivery.
I saved $44 CDN!
The USD price after exchange is the same $108 CDN.
In this case, Amazon UK is the way to go!
I wonder why it is $45 less on AMZUK
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Call me frugal, Rob... I just ordered the set from Amazon UK and spent a total of $47.60 (that INCLUDES postage for delivery to the US). Both Amazon (US) and Graceland have the set priced at 79.99 + tax and postage !!! By buying the set from the UK, I just saved about $40.00. That's insane savings. Maybe my glass is half empty, but I hope we don't receive an e-mail in a few days claiming there was a pricing error on the set.
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Ordered both the CD set and vinyl. Still don't know why they chose not to include the leftovers from American Sound 69 and Stax 73. They could of did an additional 6th disc. This is the same company that gave us a 8 CD/2 DVD set of That's The Way It Is and a 11 CD set of 1969 concerts.
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Yeah... almost.drjohncarpenter wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:45 pmAlmost.On Tape 1972 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:23 pmWOW!
They did it. No demos, no informal recordings, no soundboard recordings. It's the real deal.
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We almost went... all the wayyyyOn Tape 1972 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 12:12 pmYeah... almost.drjohncarpenter wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:45 pmAlmost.On Tape 1972 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:23 pmWOW!
They did it. No demos, no informal recordings, no soundboard recordings. It's the real deal.
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I don't know. But it was overdubbed at the same time as the other tracks from the session.Billy Easter wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 12:28 amAnd presumably, Hey Jude was to have a new vocal track laid down with full lyrics?pmp wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:14 pmBecause the overdubs on the Nashville recordings were merely intended to sweeten or add to the original recording. There is never any feeling when listening to the undubbed Nashville recordings that they are unfinished.joekro1977 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:07 pmThis is precisely what they did with the two Nashville packages, why would they break that pattern now?
The overdubs on the Memphis 69 recordings were meant to COMPLETE the recording. The intent was completely different.
Hence why I said "undubbed IN THIS INSTANCE means half finished."
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