The Swamp Fox wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:12 am
drjohncarpenter wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:47 am
Christopher wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:31 pm
i hope there will be some candid studio talk included in the outtakes.
listening to studio sessions, it´s only half the fun without it for me.
the more the better and uncensored please,
no need for today´s "political correctness" when it comes to historical recordings.
A more nuanced understanding of what kind of language may be hurtful or offensive is a sign human beings are trying to become more decent.
Kind of like how the U.S. used to mandate separate water fountains and hotels and restaurants for people with dark skin.
Good people learn from their mistakes or, as you put it, by becoming more "politically correct."
I don’t think his comment warranted a history lesson about the past. He merely enjoys hearing the recordings and accompanying studio chatter as it was captured on tape when it happened, not an edited version because a word or two “triggers” someone. I would like to hear it as it was laid down, as well.
i couldn´t have said it better, swamp fox.
when it comes to elvis´ candid chat, it´s usually not about the "n-word", but profane swearing of all kind, which should be left untouched in my view. no need to protect his image in 2021. on the other hand, assessing it from a pure sales perspective aimed at the general market, i can comprehend why sony did/does censoring. i wish they wouldn´t, but on the ftd label they surely shouldn´t (which is not aimed at the general music buyer, as we all know).
The Swamp Fox wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:12 am
On the other hand, history is just that and should be left alone to teach a lesson instead of being erased or “candy coated,” as is with the current state of affairs. Ymmv
when it comes to the broader social context (apart from elvis), i´m undecided.
i think one has to examine each and every case individually and precisely, before a decision is made.
i´m no fan to change older books, because, for example, the "n-word" was used (only because we don´t use it anymore). trying to change history that way feels wrong to me.
i feel different when it comes to changing street names or removing monuments, because an historical character is seen in another light today. in germany we have some talk about this, often referring to streets or places, which were named after persons, who helped or enabled hitler or played a shady part in the nazi regime. of course, i´m all for it to remove those honors.
all this is a very complex issue, so i´ll leave it at that.
also learned something new today, which is the acronym "ymmv" (just looked it up).
drjohncarpenter wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:50 am
Christopher wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:27 pm
remember the time, when rca made us buy new lps for one or two unreleased tracks?
RCA never made us buy anything. It was a choice then, it is a choice now.
Given your derision, I guess you will be sitting this one out.
i haven´t decided yet. i´m very picky these days.
since i don´t own all ftds, i will probably give it a go, since the price looks decent. if the masters are undubbed, it will be a added buying inducement for me.
will you buy it?
