Aloha From Hawaii (Deluxe Edition) coming to streaming services August 11th

[SteveT]

Has anyone else noticed what to me sounds like an out of time tambourine in the left channel during the instrumental and last two verses of See See Rider on CD1 ( I can also hear it on Burning Love) ?
It’s annoying and I can’t unhear it now. I’ve also checked the stream on Apple Music and it’s there as well.
It’s not there on the original 1973 mix.

[dennyelvis]

Does the Bluray have the new audio mixes?

[Christopher Brown]

Elvis' $75,000 raised for the Kui Lee Cancer Fund seems a little small today -- but 50 years later, the same purchasing power would be worth $516,369. Wow!

And, my $10 ticket to see Elvis in 1973 (well, 1974) would be about $68. I followed a whole tour in 1975 (17 shows in 12 days) for less than $170 for tickets. Today that would cost me $964 (with inflation) to see Elvis 17 times. Worth every penny! Now, top headliners are getting $1,000 to $1,500 PER ticket. I would be sad knowing I might only be able to see Elvis once -- if I could afford it.

[Paul Allen]

As a side note: my hope was always to have an Anesini remix of both NYC and aloha shows in the classic album 7” series and leave the more modern oriented MRS mixes for the main label.

Absolutely, frus75. That would've made much more sense considering all the other 'classic albums' that were issued by FTD in the 7" format.

[mmoie]

Great teview from Irelands top music magazine.
https://www.hotpress.com/music/lord-almighty-elvis-presley-aloha-from-hawaii-via-satellite-deluxe-edition-22983736

[elvis-fan]

Another side note: time for MRS to put some work on the 1969-1976 studio final masters.

Amen to that...

[elvis-fan]

Now, top headliners are getting $1,000 to $1,500 PER ticket...

Unless you're Taylor Swift... you can quadruple those numbers...

[elvis-fan]

Does the Bluray have the new audio mixes?

It does not... but it has 5.1 if that's of any significance to you. It still sounds like 2004 audio to me...

[minkahed]

Does the Bluray have the new audio mixes?

It does not... but it has 5.1 if that's of any significance to you. It still sounds like 2004 audio to me...

Well, if that’s the case, then I’m OK with it.

[steve in sc3]

Now, top headliners are getting $1,000 to $1,500 PER ticket...

Unless you're Taylor Swift... you can quadruple those numbers...

Ain’t that the truth but give her credit its a heckuva production from the few clips I have seen. The average age of the audience is 20 or below with 95% of them female but that is who she appeals to and that is ok.

[elvis-fan]

Now, top headliners are getting $1,000 to $1,500 PER ticket...

Unless you're Taylor Swift... you can quadruple those numbers...

Ain’t that the truth but give her credit its a heckuva production from the few clips I have seen. The average age of the audience is 20 or below with 95% of them female but that is who she appeals to and that is ok.

Absolutely! She is a giant star among many, many lesser stars... we have not seen the likes of her popularity for a very long time, if ever. I don't even think Michael Jackson at his height compared to her drawing power. Good on her... obviously her and her management group are making all the right moves with her career.

[OnTourCam]

Question for the video collectors on the forum

Before the 1st official release of the Hawaii Show on home video back in 1985 what was the first bootleg or film in colour of the hawaii show that you could access ?

[elvis-fan]

Question for the video collectors on the forum

Before the 1st official release of the Hawaii Show on home video back in 1985 what was the first bootleg or film in colour of the hawaii show that you could access ?

I think the show was released on laser disc back in 1984. I remember having a bootleg of the rehearsal show many years ago that was put out by STAR (along with the '68 comeback special) but I don't recall there ever being a widely distributed bootleg of the main show...

[hm80ep]

Well it arrived today at my house in UK and it's got to go back. Bloody Amazon sent it in a thin cardboard wallet and the sides have been crushed. They're absolutely useless!!

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Try marking the re-order as a gift. I've heard that if you do that they'll put it in a box so nobody can tell what's in it when it arrives.

Thanks for the tip, Wonderwall. As my order hasn't been shipped yet, I managed to edit it by adding a gift option. Fingers crossed they will treat the box-set more kindly now.

Let us know how it goes, please. I've never tried it myself, but lots of people say it works.

So I received the package this morning. The moment I saw it I knew everything was going to be fine. The box-set itself was inside a cardboard envelope, which was then put inside a big box padded with some packaging paper. The box-set is in absolutely pristine condition, with no crease or tear whatsoever. It seems adding the gift option did work a miracle. Thanks again, Wonderwall!

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[Dan_T]

Has anyone else noticed what to me sounds like an out of time tambourine in the left channel during the instrumental and last two verses of See See Rider on CD1 ( I can also hear it on Burning Love) ?
It’s annoying and I can’t unhear it now. I’ve also checked the stream on Apple Music and it’s there as well.
It’s not there on the original 1973 mix.

I think I can hear what you mean, Steve, but to me it's very, very slight, and not intrusive.

[LSP-4445]

Has anyone else noticed what to me sounds like an out of time tambourine in the left channel during the instrumental and last two verses of See See Rider on CD1 ( I can also hear it on Burning Love) ?
It’s annoying and I can’t unhear it now. I’ve also checked the stream on Apple Music and it’s there as well.
It’s not there on the original 1973 mix.

I think I can hear what you mean, Steve, but to me it's very, very slight, and not intrusive.

Thats how it is when audio is remixed I guess.
There are many songs that I dont like released recently….like on the From Elvis In Nashville box set.
Some songs have too much piano and upfront in the mix for my taste.
And not no mention the bloody triangle instrument that I simply hate.

[emjel]

Is there any advertising outside the Elvis Fan world about this Aloha release in the USA or UK from Sony or others involved?
This one is not expensive and should be more popular also outside the fan world.
It is a document about a TV Special that made history. As a single Performer (even it was not shown by the same time) never again that many people turned on the TV to see one man singing.
For me Aloha is the ultimate highlight of Elvis as the king of music (even he did not like the title).
He had made is fantastic 1968 TV Special, than That´s the Way it is, followed by Elvis On Tour and than this worldwide TV Speccial with a multi million selling album.

Sony will not be spending extra money outside of their awareness emails on marketing this as they will not have the budget to do it. It will get picked up by the press but that’s going to be about it. The public are no more interested in this release, which as mentioned offers nothing new apart from remixes, than they were for the On Tour set, which at least offered three unreleased shows. The main show and rehearsal have been out so many times that any member of the public who still own say the Legacy set from 2013 and the deluxe DVD set are not going to be too bothered about this. It’ll will probably pick up sales from new fans following Baz’s movie who don’t own a copy but it’s not going to be anything mind blowing and the main show is likely to get streamed more which will affect physical sales.

And I think you overestimate the public’s perception of this show 50 years after the event and the fact it was not broadcast around the world when it happened lessened any impact it might have got. Also, it was the event rather than the show that got the attention. The show itself didn’t or doesn’t stand out any more than any other show Elvis performed up to that time - it could have been a regular show performed in Vegas or Tuscaloosa. Yes, he was in great voice most of the time, which he generally was at most shows he performed at, but it doesn’t mean anything to them today in the same way that Live Aid or Rod Stewart performing in front of over 3 million people in 1994 doesn’t. They are events that happened and are in the history books but that’s about it.

As for sales and the charts, it’ll probably pop into the U.K. chart on the first week buoyed by fan purchases on day one and perhaps remain for a second week getting traction from the August anniversary. It might be the same for the US, but I’d be surprised to see any reasonably high Top 30 chart placement in either country in all honesty - None of the recent releases of the last few years have seen any chart action in the US Billboard 200 chart, but maybe this one will break the mould.

An TV comercial or a special on one of this shopping channels or an TV Special made for CMT would sure help the selling of this product.
The Image of Elvis Aloha from Hawaii is one of the most famous in the memory of the people

Maybe in the memory of the people several decades ago, but not now in a way that is going to make people rush out and buy this release. And do you have any idea how much TV adverts cost. Sony are not going to spend high costs on TV advertising on a product which is not going to sell many copies. They know what the market will stand and if they thought that they could sell loads of copies through advertising in a big way, they would, because no business I know of turns away the opportunity of making a really nice profit. But they know this release has a limited appeal just like all the recent releases in the last four or five years.

You need to understand that the majority of record sales for this show were generated 50 years ago, and since then, there have been drip feed sales from the various releases that have occurred in the last couple of decades.

If people like Baz Luhrman would have think the same, than a movie like Elvis would never happen.
30 #1 hits album, or the Elvis Symphonic albums would never happen which gave Elvis new million selling albums.
Sometimes it takes only a few steps to get it done.
Like the Elvis Forever album rereleased by the post and than quickly sold 50000 albums.
It could be any big firm like Pizza Hut, Star Bucks, Caddilac or what ever could sponsering or put it in a comercial.
Something like "We are having a great Hawaii Party with Elvis Aloha from Hawaii".

You cannot compare coming up with the idea of doing a brand new movie about Elvis’ career with spending vast sums of money in promoting a 50 year old concert album that has already been released in many guises over the last few decades. The general public are not like hardcore fans who have a need to own every release when it comes out. The companies you mention are NOT going to spend large sums of money sponsoring something that gives them little return or any additional return.

I don’t know why you are obsessed with this kind of thing, although that said, I do - it’s because you are obsessed with seeing Elvis in the charts because it implies that Elvis must still be extremely popular. Well here’s a newsflash for you so you can get the celebrations ready.

On Monday and unless something changes dramatically in general record sales over the last 24 hours, it is pretty much guaranteed that you will see that Aloha from Hawaii has got into the mid-week U.K. album chart, although actual position is unknown. However, that will not reflect the popularity of Elvis and this release via the general public, but that the regular hardcore fans have had their pre-ordered copy delivered on the day of release. Then next Friday, it will probably get into the lower part of the actual album chart. If it remains there for a few more weeks around the same position, then you’ll know that the release has generated a bit of interest from the general public. If it disappears after one week, you’ll know that it’s chart entry was down to the hardcore fans.

It could be done by the right people. It could end up with promotion for both who ever would go for it:

As an update for you, Elvis entered the Monday U.K. midweek chart at #36 selling 1109 copies which would have been via the hardcore collectors who made the purchase on day one. That’s down from the 1758 copies that Back In Nashville got for the first week when it was released and charted at #63 for one week back in 2021. And like the On Tour release, Aloha failed to reach today’s Top 100 although we are being led to believe that interest in Elvis and his music is at a new high following Baz’s movie.

By comparison, David Bowie’s new 50th Anniversary release for Ziggy Stardust came into the Monday midweek chart at #4 selling 5351 copies and for today’s main chart entered at #10 rising to 5,953 copies for today.

[Dan_T]

If social media is anything to go by then I'd say his popularity has increased due to Baz' film... Don't know if that has increased CD sales...not sure how many of the general public buy CD's anymore.

I think Elvis is doing OK having left the Earth 46 years ago, and I envision another surge somewhere in the future, whether it be a new remix, unearthed song or footage.

[Dan_T]

Has anyone else noticed what to me sounds like an out of time tambourine in the left channel during the instrumental and last two verses of See See Rider on CD1 ( I can also hear it on Burning Love) ?
It’s annoying and I can’t unhear it now. I’ve also checked the stream on Apple Music and it’s there as well.
It’s not there on the original 1973 mix.

I think I can hear what you mean, Steve, but to me it's very, very slight, and not intrusive.

Thats how it is when audio is remixed I guess.
There are many songs that I dont like released recently….like on the From Elvis In Nashville box set.
Some songs have too much piano and upfront in the mix for my taste.
And not no mention the bloody triangle instrument that I simply hate.

Very true, but this is my last purchase of MSG, Elvis On Tour, and Aloha audio I'll make. I'm happy now

[frus75]

Nobody buys cds. Nobody. When you exit the Elvis bubble where we buy the same album again and again and again, we see people are happy with free YouTube or Spotify material. People just don’t spend money on music anymore. From some years ago, sales don’t represent nothing but the amount of a certain percentage of old people interested in a certain album. The previous post is a as hilarious as sad or nostalgic. Comparing 1000 copies of aloha to 5000 (yes, not 50000 but 5000) copies of a David Bowie release. Remember how many singles were sold in 1971 or 1987? How many albums were sold in 1977 or 1983? It’s over. It’s a change of paradigma. Just like when people changed horses for cars. We’re relics paying top €$£ for plastic incarnations of the same album.

[emjel]

If social media is anything to go by then I'd say his popularity has increased due to Baz' film... Don't know if that has increased CD sales...not sure how many of the general public buy CD's anymore.

I think Elvis is doing OK having left the Earth 46 years ago, and I envision another surge somewhere in the future, whether it be a new remix, unearthed song or footage.

Sales these days do not only include physical sales but streaming and downloads. And global streaming for the Back In Nashville release up to a few months ago was around 19k. Last time is was given info, On Tour was around 16.5k.

[emjel]

Nobody buys cds. Nobody. When you exit the Elvis bubble where we buy the same album again and again and again, we see people are happy with free YouTube or Spotify material. People just don’t spend money on music anymore. From some years ago, sales don’t represent nothing but the amount of a certain percentage of old people interested in a certain album. The previous post is a as hilarious as sad or nostalgic. Comparing 1000 copies of aloha to 5000 (yes, not 50000 but 5000) copies of a David Bowie release. Remember how many singles were sold in 1971 or 1987? How many albums were sold in 1977 or 1983? It’s over. It’s a change of paradigma. Just like when people changed horses for cars. We’re relics paying top €$£ for plastic incarnations of the same album.

There’s nothing hilarious about the comparison of 1k to 6k because it is relevant to today and not 3 or 4 decades ago. And you are completely wrong about people or nobody not buying CDs. Liam Gallagher’s Live at Knebworth which topped the chart sold 16,204 units (8,122 CDs, 6,339 vinyl albums, 989 digital downloads and 755 sales-equivalent streams) this week. The previous week, the chart topper had sales consumptions of 15,668 units (10,299 CDs, 1,413 vinyl albums, 689 cassettes, 1,484 digital downloads and 1,783 sales-equivalent streams).

Even a top artist like Travis Scott in the US is still shifting physical - this week, the top album’s figures are
total sales of 147,935 units made up of 37,107 physical and 110,489 streaming equivalent sales.

Yes, those figures are minuscule to what they would have been back in the 70s and 80s but that’s not the point because as I wrote, they are relevant to how sales are generated now and what the charts are based from.

[frus75]

Nobody buys cds. Nobody. When you exit the Elvis bubble where we buy the same album again and again and again, we see people are happy with free YouTube or Spotify material. People just don’t spend money on music anymore. From some years ago, sales don’t represent nothing but the amount of a certain percentage of old people interested in a certain album. The previous post is a as hilarious as sad or nostalgic. Comparing 1000 copies of aloha to 5000 (yes, not 50000 but 5000) copies of a David Bowie release. Remember how many singles were sold in 1971 or 1987? How many albums were sold in 1977 or 1983? It’s over. It’s a change of paradigma. Just like when people changed horses for cars. We’re relics paying top €$£ for plastic incarnations of the same album.

There’s nothing hilarious about the comparison of 1k to 6k because it is relevant to today and not 3 or 4 decades ago. And you are completely wrong about people or nobody not buying CDs. Liam Gallagher’s Live at Knebworth which topped the chart sold 16,204 units (8,122 CDs, 6,339 vinyl albums, 989 digital downloads and 755 sales-equivalent streams) this week. The previous week, the chart topper had sales consumptions of 15,668 units (10,299 CDs, 1,413 vinyl albums, 689 cassettes, 1,484 digital downloads and 1,783 sales-equivalent streams).

Even a top artist like Travis Scott in the US is still shifting physical - this week, the top album’s figures are
total sales of 147,935 units made up of 37,107 physical and 110,489 streaming equivalent sales.

Yes, those figures are minuscule to what they would have been back in the 70s and 80s but that’s not the point because as I wrote, they are relevant to how sales are generated now and what the charts are based from.

You gave the clue: minuscule. Do you remember the 80’s, 90’s and 00’s when people actually wanted for Christmas the latest vinyl-cd from Queen, Phil Collins or even Justin Beaver? It’s all gone. In 2022, cd sales in the US went down from 46 (2021) to 33 million. And it’d be also interesting to know how many 14-25 year old people buy anything physical.

[Dan_T]

But there is zero advertising these days, Elvis releases seem to just rely on social media awareness. It's no wonder why sales are low.
The releases keep coming so they're obviously making Sony "happy" or at least satisfied.

[emjel]

Nobody buys cds. Nobody. When you exit the Elvis bubble where we buy the same album again and again and again, we see people are happy with free YouTube or Spotify material. People just don’t spend money on music anymore. From some years ago, sales don’t represent nothing but the amount of a certain percentage of old people interested in a certain album. The previous post is a as hilarious as sad or nostalgic. Comparing 1000 copies of aloha to 5000 (yes, not 50000 but 5000) copies of a David Bowie release. Remember how many singles were sold in 1971 or 1987? How many albums were sold in 1977 or 1983? It’s over. It’s a change of paradigma. Just like when people changed horses for cars. We’re relics paying top €$£ for plastic incarnations of the same album.

There’s nothing hilarious about the comparison of 1k to 6k because it is relevant to today and not 3 or 4 decades ago. And you are completely wrong about people or nobody not buying CDs. Liam Gallagher’s Live at Knebworth which topped the chart sold 16,204 units (8,122 CDs, 6,339 vinyl albums, 989 digital downloads and 755 sales-equivalent streams) this week. The previous week, the chart topper had sales consumptions of 15,668 units (10,299 CDs, 1,413 vinyl albums, 689 cassettes, 1,484 digital downloads and 1,783 sales-equivalent streams).

Even a top artist like Travis Scott in the US is still shifting physical - this week, the top album’s figures are
total sales of 147,935 units made up of 37,107 physical and 110,489 streaming equivalent sales.

Yes, those figures are minuscule to what they would have been back in the 70s and 80s but that’s not the point because as I wrote, they are relevant to how sales are generated now and what the charts are based from.

You gave the cue: minuscule. Do you remember the 80’s, 90’s and 00’s when people actually wanted for Christmas the latest vinyl-cd from Queen, Phil Collins or even Justin Beaver? It’s all gone. In 2022, cd sales in the US went down from 46 (2021) to 33 million. And it’d be also interesting to know how many 14-25 year old people buy anything physical.

Of course I remember those times. I remember towns having 3 or 4 actual record shops where you could go and hunt out the best price e too. But we are not comparing what happened then to what is happening now. What is interesting is that you are telling us that in the US, CD sales went down from 46 million to 33 million, but your opening comment in reply to what you suggested was a hilarious post, was that nobody buys CDs..nobody.

There are a few on here who are telling us that Elvis’ record sales are on a new high mainly off the back of Baz’s movie, but as has been said by a few others, there is no evidence to support that and not when you compare it to other iconic artists, a few of whom have not had the benefit of a big Hollywood movie. And that’s why the comparison between Bowie and Elvis releases that came out in the same day was made. And it was the same when Sony released Dylan’s latest boxset that was released the same time as Elvis On Tour. Dylan’s set also outsold Elvis’ release by roughly 5 to 1 in the same week.